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  • chernobylwraiths
    Registered User
    • Jan 2003
    • 41838

    Why does the price keep changing?

    First it was $150 million, then $175 million, now there is an additional $14 million of "debt". What the hell is that? I thought the team was making money, where is this debt coming from?
  • Dr. Lecter
    Zero for Zero!
    • Mar 2003
    • 67946

    #2
    Re: Why does the price keep changing?

    Originally posted by chernobylwraiths
    First it was $150 million, then $175 million, now there is an additional $14 million of "debt". What the hell is that? I thought the team was making money, where is this debt coming from?
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    Originally posted by mysticsoto
    Lecter is right in everything he said.

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    • chernobylwraiths
      Registered User
      • Jan 2003
      • 41838

      #3
      Re: Why does the price keep changing?

      Originally posted by Dr. Lecter
      Obama.


      and paying off the Buffalo News to not print any more expose articles on his former businesses.

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      • trapezeus
        Legendary Zoner
        • Oct 2004
        • 19525

        #4
        Re: Why does the price keep changing?

        golisano owned the team for less than 10 years and he was saddled with some serious debt, if i remember correctly. it's probably the amount left over and some of it may be payments back to the NHL when it was being run by the league.

        isnt this how all expensive purchases happen. you buy your home for $X. Then at closing, you owe $x plus $2000 ini closing costs. then when you get the movers, fix the pesky bathroom no one told you about, you're in for another $10,000.

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        • Dr. Lecter
          Zero for Zero!
          • Mar 2003
          • 67946

          #5
          Re: Why does the price keep changing?

          Originally posted by trapezeus
          golisano owned the team for less than 10 years and he was saddled with some serious debt, if i remember correctly. it's probably the amount left over and some of it may be payments back to the NHL when it was being run by the league.

          isnt this how all expensive purchases happen. you buy your home for $X. Then at closing, you owe $x plus $2000 ini closing costs. then when you get the movers, fix the pesky bathroom no one told you about, you're in for another $10,000.

          The debt from the Rigas years was not part f what he purchased -it was all forgiven.


          But likely it is just various loans and stuff the Sabres have taken out. Perhaps to work on the arena, purchase merhcandise, for setting up the WJC, etc.
          Originally posted by mysticsoto
          Lecter is right in everything he said.

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          • Bufftp
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            • Jul 2002
            • 18062

            #6
            Re: Why does the price keep changing?

            Simple-people were reporting speculation, rumor and hearsay not hard fact.
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            • YardRat
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              • Dec 2004
              • 86288

              #7
              Re: Why does the price keep changing?

              Liabilities that are still left as being owed (as Lecter said) I would guess. Probably what much of the negotiations over the last month have hinged on.
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              • Nighthawk
                Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
                • Jul 2002
                • 15437

                #8
                Re: Why does the price keep changing?

                The debt is the stupid contract extensions for Regier, Pomminville, Hecht, etc...

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                • Michael82
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 82328

                  #9
                  Re: Why does the price keep changing?

                  The debt is probably what Golisano used to buy a new scoreboard and ribbon boards inside the HSBC Arena and to upgrade some of the concessions.

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                  • User Manuel
                    The Artist formerly Known as Lawesome97
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 2662

                    #10
                    Re: Why does the price keep changing?

                    Originally posted by Dr. Lecter
                    The debt from the Rigas years was not part f what he purchased -it was all forgiven.


                    But likely it is just various loans and stuff the Sabres have taken out. Perhaps to work on the arena, purchase merhcandise, for setting up the WJC, etc.
                    Actually Doc, as I remeber it, most of the sale price for Golisano was assumed debt he paid off. The Rigas' got almost nothing for the team.

                    I'd bet that a good chunk of the debt here has to do with capital debt sdervice and stadium renovations....just a hunch though.

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                    • THATHURMANATOR
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 69112

                      #11
                      Re: Why does the price keep changing?

                      Who cares?

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                      • trapezeus
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 19525

                        #12
                        Re: Why does the price keep changing?

                        because if the final sales price ends up like $200+, it may effect how quickly pegula wipes through with his changes. even if he is super committed to winning hockey, making a huge purchase and then not having any return is a bad omen for a buffalo sports franchise, whether we like it or not.

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                        • Night Train
                          Retired - On Several Levels
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 33117

                          #13
                          Re: Why does the price keep changing?

                          It includes the Sabres & the Bandits.
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