OT Tyron Smith Wins

[DraftBoy]

After declaring a year early LT Tyron Smith from USC had one goal in mind. He wanted to prove he could put on weight from his 285 frame and still maintain his light feet and quickness that have made some call him a potential franchise LT.

Gentlemen I present to you the new Tyron Smith who has put on 20 pounds;

6'5, 307lbs, 36.5 inch arms.

Has absolutely taken the combine draftniks by storm.

He is not sure if he'll run yet or not, but if he does it will be on Saturday. This kid was somebody I said when he declared will see his stock skyrocket.

[k-oneputt]

at 307 he just made himself a lot of money.

[Jan Reimers]

If you could make money just gaining weight, I'd be a wealthy man.

[k-oneputt]

I don't think tyron has put on fat weight.
guessing yours isn't in the muscle form.

[Jan Reimers]

I don't think tyron has put on fat weight.
guessing yours isn't in the muscle form.
I guess a beer gut isn't a real money maker.

[DraftBoy]

If you could make money just gaining weight, I'd be a wealthy man.

:rofl:

He added 22 pounds and almost all muscle though. Big boy has been eating well.

[Dr. Lecter]

This is also a redflag. That is a lot of wieght pretty quickly.

[DraftBoy]

This is also a redflag. That is a lot of wieght pretty quickly.

Not entirely, USC has a top notch S&C staff and he's working out with some of the best trainers money can buy.

Reports are he look very fit and in great shape.

You are right though 20+ pound fluctuations should be noted.

[k-oneputt]

This is also a redflag. That is a lot of wieght pretty quickly.

young kid though, with a big frame, sure he had a lot of room to grow into it.

now if Maybin can do this....

[DraftBoy]

I guess a beer gut isn't a real money maker.

If drinking beer made money, I would be very rich right now.

[DraftBoy]

young kid though, with a big frame, sure he had a lot of room to grow into it.

now if Maybin can do this....

The test will be can he move the same way he did at 285? He was so friggin smooth at USC it was unbelievable.

[k-oneputt]

The test will be can he move the same way he did at 285? He was so friggin smooth at USC it was unbelievable.

That will be his millions of dollar question.

[Jan Reimers]

If drinking beer made money, I would be very rich right now.
I could have outbid Pegula for the Sabres.

[DraftBoy]

I could have outbid Pegula for the Sabres.

And I would buy the Bills when Ralph croaks. :awm:

[OpIv37]

This is also a redflag. That is a lot of wieght pretty quickly.

Hmmmm..... how would a player from USC manage to put on so much muscle weight so quickly? They must have the best trainers in college football.

Oh, and why are the pharmaceutical students always hanging around the football training facility? Most of them look way too small to be players....

[Dr. Lecter]

And I would buy the Bills when Ralph croaks. :awm:
Not if I outbid you.......

[DraftBoy]

Hmmmm..... how would a player from USC manage to put on so much muscle weight so quickly? They must have the best trainers in college football.

Oh, and why are the pharmaceutical students always hanging around the football training facility? Most of them look way too small to be players....

I believe he's been doing most (if not all) his offseason training away from SC. Not sure though.

USC Sucks.

[psubills62]

Yeah, questions are if he can move the same way and if he can keep on the weight. He's young (20, I believe), so there's a good chance he can develop into a consistent 310 lb. lineman.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Can the guy play football though?

[trapezeus]

I guess a beer gut isn't a real money maker.

maybe more valuable in baseball.

[DraftBoy]

36 6/8th" Arms, 11" Hands

Both are huge measurables for OL and DL.

[CAbills]

its NOT that hard. Especially for someones only job is to eat and work out. Eat big train big and you get bigger and working with personal trainers and what not helps immensely

[Ingtar33]

After declaring a year early LT Tyron Smith from USC had one goal in mind. He wanted to prove he could put on weight from his 285 frame and still maintain his light feet and quickness that have made some call him a potential franchise LT.

Gentlemen I present to you the new Tyron Smith who has put on 20 pounds;

6'5, 307lbs, 36.5 inch arms.

Has absolutely taken the combine draftniks by storm.

He is not sure if he'll run yet or not, but if he does it will be on Saturday. This kid was somebody I said when he declared will see his stock skyrocket.


I hope he passes the drug screening. because that's a suspicious weight gain for 2 months of work.

Actually i don't think there is anyone in their right mind who will believe this was natural.

[Mahdi]

I hope he passes the drug screening. because that's a suspicious weight gain for 2 months of work.

Actually i don't think there is anyone in their right mind who will believe this was natural.
He would have to be ******ed to use drugs before the combine and lose millions. It's natural.

[TigerJ]

I'me not saying that all the positives for the kid aren't true, but for me it just begs the question, why didn't he put this healthy weight on earlier?

[Goobylal]

Maybin added about 20# of weight before the Combine. Just sayin'.

[DraftBoy]

He would have to be ******ed to use drugs before the combine and lose millions. It's natural.

Every year a few players get busted for PED's, happens every year.

[DraftBoy]

I hope he passes the drug screening. because that's a suspicious weight gain for 2 months of work.

Actually i don't think there is anyone in their right mind who will believe this was natural.

Well we dont have his official numbers, so he could of been playing at higher or lower than his listed weight.

Also keep in mind USC was banned from bowl play so he's had over 3 months to gain the weight.

[Dr. Lecter]

He would have to be ******ed to use drugs before the combine and lose millions. It's natural.
1. Some players are ******ed.

b. The stuff can be masked or timed to pass the tests.

iii. they do not test for HGH or some of the latest drugs

[psubills62]

Are we going to see a Mike-Williams-like-meteoric rise? Is he suddenly going to become a legit option at #3, or are the concerns a little too much at this point? The guy looks absolutely chiseled for a 307 pound OL.

[DraftBoy]

Are we going to see a Mike-Williams-like-meteoric rise? Is he suddenly going to become a legit option at #3, or are the concerns a little too much at this point? The guy looks absolutely chiseled for a 307 pound OL.

What are your concerns?

Yes Wes Bunting alluded to him being an option at 3, and Ill admit it wouldnt shock me if he works out well tomorrow.

He was already a 15-20 pick to begin with. He needed to prove he could add weight to +300 and move well with it.

[YardRat]

If he could play at 307, he should've put the 20 on before last season.

I hate guys that gear up for the combine, pro day, or draft status.

[psubills62]

What are your concerns?

Yes Wes Bunting alluded to him being an option at 3, and Ill admit it wouldnt shock me if he works out well tomorrow.

He was already a 15-20 pick to begin with. He needed to prove he could add weight to +300 and move well with it.

That's my concern in addition to if he can keep the weight on. Are they huge concerns? No, but they might be enough to keep him behind Bowers, Dareus, Peterson and co.

I personally love this quote:


And don't think USC's Tyron Smith made it to the podium today, but he earned himself some money by weighing in at 307 w/Go-Go Gadget arms.

[DraftBoy]

If he could play at 307, he should've put the 20 on before last season.

I hate guys that gear up for the combine, pro day, or draft status.

Why? So you feel better about him?

His system allowed him to be a dominant LT and he didnt need to weigh in excess of 300 lbs. His game is based on his speed and athleticism, complimented by a maturing technique and good understanding of the game. He's never going to be a power blocker at LT, he's got some finish to him but he's not a nasty player.

[DraftBoy]

That's my concern in addition to if he can keep the weight on. Are they huge concerns? No, but they might be enough to keep him behind Bowers, Dareus, Peterson and co.

I personally love this quote:

But those concerns should be able to be put to rest just by him running drills in Indy and at his Pro Day. That's assuming he can run because he had a knee scope done in December.

[YardRat]

Why? So you feel better about him?

His system allowed him to be a dominant LT and he didnt need to weigh in excess of 300 lbs. His game is based on his speed and athleticism, complimented by a maturing technique and good understanding of the game. He's never going to be a power blocker at LT, he's got some finish to him but he's not a nasty player.

Yes, because every top college prospect's first priority should be how I personally view and rate them. Duhh...

To me, on-field performance will trump any other factors, and if his ultimate goal is to play in the NFL at 300+ pounds than it would be nice to have some film on him at that weight.

If he weighed 307 all season, and performed at a similar level, than there would be no need for him to add weight to try to improve his draft status. It would be a given.

Aren't you the least bit concerned that he can't play at that weight?

[DraftBoy]

Yes, because every top college prospect's first priority should be how I personally view and rate them. Duhh...

To me, on-field performance will trump any other factors, and if his ultimate goal is to play in the NFL at 300+ pounds than it would be nice to have some film on him at that weight.

If he weighed 307 all season, and performed at a similar level, than there would be no need for him to add weight to try to improve his draft status. It would be a given.

Aren't you the least bit concerned that he can't play at that weight?


You're misunderstanding what is happening with him. He's not adding weight to improve his draft stock. He's already considered one of the top LT's in this draft. He's answering questions about if he can add weight or not. The improvement he's seeing may be large in terms of money he's earning himself but he's in the mix for top 3 LT from the get go.

Keep in mind we dont know what he played at last season, he was listed at 285 and the listed weights are about as reliable as Patti's pending doom perdictions. He could of been heavier or lighter, we dont know.

Not really, when he declared I said I expected him to put on 20-30 pounds by the combine. His game isnt based on power or mass so his weight game is just something he needed to do. It doesnt prove or disprove anything. As long as he carries it well, Im fine, and I suspect a lot of scouts will be to.

[YardRat]

You're misunderstanding what is happening with him. He's not adding weight to improve his draft stock. He's already considered one of the top LT's in this draft. He's answering questions about if he can add weight or not. The improvement he's seeing may be large in terms of money he's earning himself but he's in the mix for top 3 LT from the get go.

Hmmm...I guess it's possible I misinterpreted the following comments...

Has absolutely taken the combine draftniks by storm.

This kid was somebody I said when he declared will see his stock skyrocket.


Keep in mind we dont know what he played at last season, he was listed at 285 and the listed weights are about as reliable as Patti's pending doom perdictions. He could of been heavier or lighter, we dont know.

True, but that's even more scary. If he was heavier, no need to publicize his weight gain...if he was lighter, that means he had to add even more than 20. Not good.


Not really, when he declared I said I expected him to put on 20-30 pounds by the combine. His game isnt based on power or mass so his weight game is just something he needed to do. It doesnt prove or disprove anything. As long as he carries it well, Im fine, and I suspect a lot of scouts will be to.

Granted, but 'carrying it well' at a mini-Jr Olympics (especially if he doesn't run or do cones, etc, because of his knee) is quite a bit different than carrying it well on the field.

[DraftBoy]

Hmmm...I guess it's possible I misinterpreted the following comments...

Has absolutely taken the combine draftniks by storm.

This kid was somebody I said when he declared will see his stock skyrocket.



True, but that's even more scary. If he was heavier, no need to publicize his weight gain...if he was lighter, that means he had to add even more than 20. Not good.



Granted, but 'carrying it well' at a mini-Jr Olympics (especially if he doesn't run or do cones, etc, because of his knee) is quite a bit different than carrying it well on the field.

You have misinterpreted. His stock has skyrocketed because many people had no idea who this kid was. People have watched his tape and that's why he's been in the discussion now in top 15.

Nothing scary about it, the reason its publicized is because the people publicizing it dont have access to the accurate numbers. Which is why you dont find out till yesterday that though listed at 350, Marcus Cannon (TCU-OT) really played all year at 375. Kenrrick Ellis (DT-Hampton) listed at 280, played at 350. The people making the big deal are not the ones who have access to the correct info.

I agree, but you can see things like how fluid he is, can he still get back on his drop step, just because the pads aren't on, doesnt mean there aren't thing to evaluate and look at.

[djjimkelly]

Hmmmm..... how would a player from USC manage to put on so much muscle weight so quickly? They must have the best trainers in college football.

Oh, and why are the pharmaceutical students always hanging around the football training facility? Most of them look way too small to be players....

the same way ive went from 210 to 218 since jan 1st yet my waist is smaller lol fun stuff

:couch:

[Nighthawk]

You're misunderstanding what is happening with him. He's not adding weight to improve his draft stock. He's already considered one of the top LT's in this draft. He's answering questions about if he can add weight or not. The improvement he's seeing may be large in terms of money he's earning himself but he's in the mix for top 3 LT from the get go.

Keep in mind we dont know what he played at last season, he was listed at 285 and the listed weights are about as reliable as Patti's pending doom perdictions. He could of been heavier or lighter, we dont know.

Not really, when he declared I said I expected him to put on 20-30 pounds by the combine. His game isnt based on power or mass so his weight game is just something he needed to do. It doesnt prove or disprove anything. As long as he carries it well, Im fine, and I suspect a lot of scouts will be to.

Plus, the guy is young, so he technically is still growing. This kid looks like he could be a stud at RT for years to come. Would love to have him on the Bills, but where he probably goes will keep that from happening.

[DraftBoy]

Plus, the guy is young, so he technically is still growing. This kid looks like he could be a stud at RT for years to come. Would love to have him on the Bills, but where he probably goes will keep that from happening.

Projects better at LT than RT, imo.

[Nighthawk]

Projects better at LT than RT, imo.

I think his athleticism definitely give him a chance for that, I just get worried saying it without seeing him do it first, but I don't disagree. The one thing whoever drafts is assured of is that the kid can play and if it's not LT, then they'll have a stud at RT.

[alohabillsfan]

Needs to be in the right offense, If you want power running, pass on him. If you are a pass happy, dscreens and draws ala Colts, he is perfect.

[DraftBoy]

I think his athleticism definitely give him a chance for that, I just get worried saying it without seeing him do it first, but I don't disagree. The one thing whoever drafts is assured of is that the kid can play and if it's not LT, then they'll have a stud at RT.

My concern with him being at RT, is that he lacks a certain power to his game that I prefer in RT prospects like Carmini.

[Nighthawk]

My concern with him being at RT, is that he lacks a certain power to his game that I prefer in RT prospects like Carmini.

Very true, in that aspect he projects better as protecting the blindside of the QB and the speed, pass rushing specialists at LT.

[Bill Cody]

its NOT that hard. Especially for someones only job is to eat and work out. Eat big train big and you get bigger and working with personal trainers and what not helps immensely

It may not be even that hard. Shawn Merriman put on 25 pounds after his senior year in MD and he said it only took a small pinch in the butt a couple times a week.

[k-oneputt]

It may not be even that hard. Shawn Merriman put on 25 pounds after his senior year in MD and he said it only took a small pinch in the butt a couple times a week.


He needs to get his buddy Maybin on the "program".

Tyron will be a left tackle in the NFL evetually, that's why he is flying up the draft boards. Athletic, wingspan, and now good enough size.

[Bill Cody]

He needs to get his buddy Maybin on the "program".



I think Merriman is off since he got caught. That's why he's no longer "Lights Out". But you're right it's probably Maybin's only hope.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I would puke if they took another workout warrior.....

[JCBills]

My concern with him being at RT, is that he lacks a certain power to his game that I prefer in RT prospects like Carmini.

Thoughts on Marcus Gilbert?

[DraftBoy]

Thoughts on Marcus Gilbert?


Versatile guy, good feet, not overly powerful. He's played 4 of the OL position which will add to his value. Not sure if he's OG or OT in the NFL which hurts but as a mid round pick (4th-5th) would have good value.

[Danny Duberstein]

Did you predict that he'd drop out of the combine?

Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/26/tyron-smith-drops-out-of-combine/)

[DraftBoy]

Did you predict that he'd drop out of the combine?

Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/26/tyron-smith-drops-out-of-combine/)

Nope but not a big surprise, had a knee scope operation in January. Originally heard it was December.

[JCBills]

Versatile guy, good feet, not overly powerful. He's played 4 of the OL position which will add to his value. Not sure if he's OG or OT in the NFL which hurts but as a mid round pick (4th-5th) would have good value.

Solid. Liked him as a mid round option for a while now, I think he'd be good value with our second 4th rounder. He seems to be at least decent at everything, and has the ideal size for RT. Yeah he isn't overly powerful but I've seen him erase people when run blocking. Needs to have a little bit of nasty injected into him, but I like his potential.

[DraftBoy]

Solid. Liked him as a mid round option for a while now, I think he'd be good value with our second 4th rounder. He seems to be at least decent at everything, and has the ideal size for RT. Yeah he isn't overly powerful but I've seen him erase people when run blocking. Needs to have a little bit of nasty injected into him, but I like his potential.

If we're talking RT options, Id much prefer Jah Reid from UCF, stronger, and nastier.