Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

[DraftBoy]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e75a7b/article/on-ability-alone-these-are-top-prospects-of-2011-nfl-draft?module=HP_cp2

What if teams drafted solely on best player available and didn't consider their specific needs? What if teams didn't consider a player's injury history, off-field issues, psychological exams, intelligence tests, or workout results at the NFL Scouting Combine and pro days?

It's what I did in compiling my "Hot 100" list of prospects, all of whom will be represented at the combine this week in Indianapolis. I took out all the non-football things that go into a complete analysis of a player and listed them strictly on talent and ability. It's not a mock draft, but this should give you an idea of how they are rated by most NFL teams as players.

[Nighthawk]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

Hmmm, so he has Gabbert & Newton in Tier 1, does that mean that Gil doesn't know what he's talking about either? Just checking with all the Billszone experts...

[DraftBoy]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

Hmmm, so he has Gabbert & Newton in Tier 1, does that mean that Gil doesn't know what he's talking about either? Just checking with all the Billszone experts...

Has anybody really argued they aren't worth 1st round picks?

[Jan Reimers]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

There are a bunch of really good DEs. Let's hope we get at least one.

[Nighthawk]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

Has anybody really argued they aren't worth 1st round picks?

That's not what he says...he has them (in reality) in his top ten. Much different then being a first rounder...we both know that.

[DraftBoy]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

That's not what he says...he has them (in reality) in his top ten. Much different then being a first rounder...we both know that.

No he has them as tier 1, he's not mocking them as top 10 picks. You're making an assumption about him saying something he's not.

I dont think many are arguing that those two aren't top level prospects.

[Nighthawk]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

No he has them as tier 1, he's not mocking them as top 10 picks. You're making an assumption about him saying something he's not.

I dont think many are arguing that those two aren't top level prospects.

I knew you were going to say that, but just because he's not "mocking" them, he is indicating where (tier) they should be valued and he is putting a top ten value on them...thus, the Tier 1 label. Every player in that Tier 1 is a universal choice to go top ten, so you're telling me that it's a coincidence? Really???

[DraftBoy]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

I knew you were going to say that, but just because he's not "mocking" them, he is indicating where (tier) they should be valued and he is putting a top ten value on them...thus, the Tier 1 label. Every player in that Tier 1 is a universal choice to go top ten, so you're telling me that it's a coincidence? Really???

No every player in the tier 1 is not a universal choice in top 10. Marcel Dareus is in Brandt's top 10, but for Russ Lande (The Sporting News) he has him down as a borderline first round pick.

Some have Patrick Peterson #1 overall on their big board, but mock him to fall all the way down 5 or below.

Big Board values and where you see a guy going are entirely different.

[Nighthawk]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

No every player in the tier 1 is not a universal choice in top 10. Marcel Dareus is in Brandt's top 10, but for Russ Lande (The Sporting News) he has him down as a borderline first round pick.

Some have Patrick Peterson #1 overall on their big board, but mock him to fall all the way down 5 or below.

Big Board values and where you see a guy going are entirely different.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

[DraftBoy]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

I knew you were going to say that.

[alohabillsfan]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

Russ Lande is an idiot

[DraftBoy]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

Russ Lande is an idiot

Eh, he's not an idiot.

He just does things differently than a lot of other scouts. He relies almost exclusively on tape and what he sees with his own eyes. He nails his fair share that others miss on.

[Nighthawk]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

I knew you were going to say that.

Hey, what can I say...we can keep arguing, but what's the point? I don't see it like you do.

[alohabillsfan]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

ROFL, what do other scouts use? Message boards?

[X-Era]

Re: Gil Brandt Release Top 100 Prospects

Has anybody really argued they aren't worth 1st round picks?

Actually Db, I think a few have.