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Philagape
03-02-2011, 05:33 PM
Here's one guy I wouldn't mind going after; he was cut strictly for financial reasons.
But looks like he may stay in Green Bay ...



However, that doesn’t mean Hawk is gone for good. According to Schefter, there are some who believe a new deal for Hawk is coming, and he’ll stay in Green Bay.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/02/packers-cut-a-j-hawk/

Philagape
03-02-2011, 05:34 PM
Silly me, how could I not think to look in the Daniel Graham thread about AJ Hawk??? MY BAD!!!!

Tatonka
03-02-2011, 05:35 PM
he should be priority number 1

Jaybird
03-02-2011, 05:36 PM
Maybe he will take it personally with GB and not want to go back there

jpdex12
03-02-2011, 05:43 PM
If we are going to make one splash in FA in this off season...sign his ass! That would lock up the middle for us once we extended Poz. I'm not saying we'd have the best LB's in teh league but it would plug a sizeable gap for us. Kelsay, Poz, Hawk and Merriman would be a nice lineup with good experience. Then you grab young depth at OLB and ILB in the draft in the later rounds and we're set behind the DL.

Take Dareus if he's there at #3 and this solves a lot of our defensive problems.

YardRat
03-02-2011, 05:52 PM
Hawk = the POS with players around him. Do we really need two of those guys manning our middle?

SquishDaFish
03-02-2011, 06:04 PM
Love to have him next to POZ in Buffalo!!

Philagape
03-02-2011, 06:09 PM
Hawk = the POS with players around him. Do we really need two of those guys manning our middle?

For what it's worth, he was the leading tackler and a captain on the 2nd-best defense in the league. The Packers want him back, just not at $10 million a year. Just entering his prime at 27. He'd certainly be an upgrade here.

YardRat
03-02-2011, 06:35 PM
For what it's worth, he was the leading tackler and a captain on the 2nd-best defense in the league. The Packers want him back, just not at $10 million a year. Just entering his prime at 27. He'd certainly be an upgrade here.

32% of the POS's tackles were "assists" (48 of 151).
35% of Hawk's were (39 of 111).

IMO the last thing we need in an inside LBer is another guy that trails and 'cleans up' the play. We need a difference maker next to the POS, not a clone.

Philagape
03-02-2011, 06:41 PM
32% of the POS's tackles were "assists" (48 of 151).
35% of Hawk's were (39 of 111).

IMO the last thing we need in an inside LBer is another guy that trails and 'cleans up' the play. We need a difference maker next to the POS, not a clone.

Is there one available?

psubills62
03-02-2011, 06:48 PM
Silly me, how could I not think to look in the Daniel Graham thread about AJ Hawk??? MY BAD!!!!

No problem, Phil :up: I wasn't going to get on your case. I'm just not a huge fan of separate threads for every free agent and was hoping to consolidate a little.

Night Train
03-02-2011, 07:07 PM
I would call him immediately and make him a strong offer. Better than any MLB in this draft and solves a glaring need.

ublinkwescore
03-02-2011, 07:26 PM
Didn't I hear somewhere that Hawk struggled as a 3-4 Linebacker?

Philagape
03-02-2011, 07:28 PM
Didn't I hear somewhere that Hawk struggled as a 3-4 Linebacker?

Articles I'm reading generally say he started out sparingly but improved over the season. He became a valuable leader as injuries hit the LB corps.
Here's a good one:
http://www.totalpackers.com/2011/01/31/where-would-the-packers-be-without-a-j-hawk/

DraftBoy
03-02-2011, 08:04 PM
Is there one available?

Honestly no, but that doesnt mean you blow your entire wad on the guy that is available but who you know is not a difference maker.

There a number of rookies in this draft class who will come cheaper, have more athleticism, and higher upside. They do lack his experience and intangibles in some cases (though Id argue Kelvin Sheppard is just as much a leader), but that's a trade off Im willing to make for a shot at getting the next Willis.

bigbub2352
03-02-2011, 08:08 PM
he is better than akin odeyle

AB4now
03-02-2011, 08:12 PM
i would take a strong look at acquiring this guy. a good vet with good leadership and can bring some knowledge to our locker room about what it takes to get to a super bowl.

Mike
03-02-2011, 08:19 PM
IMO the last thing we need in an inside LBer is another guy that trails and 'cleans up' the play. We need a difference maker next to the POS, not a clone.


Could Not Agree More. To me he is a middle of the pack type of LB, definitely nothing special. Pass.

dannyek71
03-02-2011, 08:22 PM
Hawk > POZ

DraftBoy
03-02-2011, 08:43 PM
Hawk > POZ


Well that's like saying;

You, Me, Doc, Op, Mikey, Night Train, and YardRat > Bills Defensive Front 7

more cowbell
03-02-2011, 08:54 PM
sign him now. no excuses. if you want to upgrade the defense...this guy would help

ParanoidAndroid
03-02-2011, 09:59 PM
The Bills can afford to go after him and it would close up a major need come draft time, allowing them to focus elsewhere.

Bert102176
03-02-2011, 10:51 PM
I have always liked HAWK, if we could sign Hawk, Re-sign Poz and draft Von Miller DAMN I would love our LBers

kingJofNYC
03-02-2011, 11:47 PM
Doesn't matter, he's flying in to GB to sign a 5 year deal tomorrow.

ServoBillieves
03-02-2011, 11:56 PM
Honestly, Andra Davis over AJ Hawk?

Luisito23
03-03-2011, 05:54 AM
Poz the 2nd. is staying in GB.

elltrain22
03-03-2011, 08:17 AM
32% of the POS's tackles were "assists" (48 of 151).
35% of Hawk's were (39 of 111).

IMO the last thing we need in an inside LBer is another guy that trails and 'cleans up' the play. We need a difference maker next to the POS, not a clone.

Didn't realize that, good point!!

ddaryl
03-03-2011, 08:54 AM
so 1/3 of the tackles made by hawk and Poz are assisted tackles.

that means 66% are solo.. Sounds like solid LB'in to me

madness
03-03-2011, 11:48 AM
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SpillerThrills
03-03-2011, 12:09 PM
According to Adam Schefter GB resigned AJ to a 5 year deal. per his twitter page.