Hawk's parameters; will a Poz deal be similar?

[X-Era]

http://blogs.greenbaypressgazette.com/blogs/gpg/insider/?s=a.j.+hawk

Hawk’s contract includes a signing bonus of $8 million, roster bonus of $1.8 million and 2011 base salary of $1.15 million, which means he’ll make $10.95 million in 2011. If the salary cap returns in the same form it’s been since 1994, that $8 million will be prorated over all five seasons for cap calculations, so in 2011 he’ll count $4.55 million against the 2011 cap.

In 2012, he’ll make $4.95 million, with $4.4 million of that in base salary, $300,000 in a roster bonus and $250,000 in a workout bonus.

In 2013, he’ll make $5.45 million ($4.9 million base salary, $300,000 roster bonus and $250,000 workout bonus).

In 2014, he’ll make $5.95 million ($4.9 million base, $800,000 roster bonus and $250,000 workout bonus).

And in 2015 he’ll make $6.45 million ($5.4 million base salary, $800,000 roster bonus and $250,000 workout bonus).

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Probably real close to the type of money Poz will be looking for. He won't be cheap. Is he worth it?

[DraftBoy]

Re: Hawk's parameters; will a Poz deal be similar?

No

[alohabillsfan]

Re: Hawk's parameters; will a Poz deal be similar?

Hell no! By Poz.

[Ickybaluky]

Re: Hawk's parameters; will a Poz deal be similar?

They are similar players. Poz has struggled with injuries more which has hurt his productivity.

[madness]

Re: Hawk's parameters; will a Poz deal be similar?

It's good to know how much Poz won't be making.

[Tatonka]

Re: Hawk's parameters; will a Poz deal be similar?

why not.. its not my money.

[X-Era]

Re: Hawk's parameters; will a Poz deal be similar?

why not.. its not my money.

Exactly. I stopped caring about Ralph's wallett a few years ago.

Unfortunately, that may very well be the going rate.

[Michael82]

Re: Hawk's parameters; will a Poz deal be similar?

Poz will get a little less than that due to his injury history and probably have more bonuses and incentives in the contract. I hope they keep him.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: Hawk's parameters; will a Poz deal be similar?

Cut Maybin, Kelsay, and Evans, don't sign Pos and Whitner use that money on players who might make a difference.

[X-Era]

Re: Hawk's parameters; will a Poz deal be similar?

Cut Maybin, Kelsay, and Evans, don't sign Pos and Whitner use that money on players who might make a difference.

Theoretically I have no issue with this... I'd say that you're requesting significant upgrades.

But the question then becomes who. And the bulk of the guys that would seem like significant upgrades got tagged or may be restricted and won't hit the market.

At that point, I'd rather pay the guys we have and add youth that can push or bench them in the near future. Notice I said bench, not cut. I want us to have solid depth at most positions... especially on our injury prone team.

Time for Ralph and Co. to put up or shut up. This is a talent depleted 4 and 12 team. You better spend to keep what you have, spend to make serious upgrades, and draft well. Anything less is more of the same IMO.

[Mahdi]

Re: Hawk's parameters; will a Poz deal be similar?

http://blogs.greenbaypressgazette.co...r/?s=a.j.+hawk

Hawk’s contract includes a signing bonus of $8 million, roster bonus of $1.8 million and 2011 base salary of $1.15 million, which means he’ll make $10.95 million in 2011. If the salary cap returns in the same form it’s been since 1994, that $8 million will be prorated over all five seasons for cap calculations, so in 2011 he’ll count $4.55 million against the 2011 cap.

In 2012, he’ll make $4.95 million, with $4.4 million of that in base salary, $300,000 in a roster bonus and $250,000 in a workout bonus.

In 2013, he’ll make $5.45 million ($4.9 million base salary, $300,000 roster bonus and $250,000 workout bonus).

In 2014, he’ll make $5.95 million ($4.9 million base, $800,000 roster bonus and $250,000 workout bonus).

And in 2015 he’ll make $6.45 million ($5.4 million base salary, $800,000 roster bonus and $250,000 workout bonus).

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Probably real close to the type of money Poz will be looking for. He won't be cheap. Is he worth it?

heck no.

[Mahdi]

Re: Hawk's parameters; will a Poz deal be similar?

They are similar players. Poz has struggled with injuries more which has hurt his productivity.

both white?

[Ickybaluky]

Re: Hawk's parameters; will a Poz deal be similar?

both white?

I think they are similar players. Both are run-down ILB who struggle on passing downs.

The biggest difference between the two is that Hawk has been healthy and he plays on a better team.

Hawk has played 80 games in 5 years to Posluszny's 45 games in 4 years. That will hurt his value because reliability is important at that position.