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mrbojanglezs
04-19-2011, 11:51 AM
Very substantial quote right there, when talking about media hype of gabbert, nix said that him and modrak had him rated high from the beginning after watching some of his games in the beginning of the year.

Also nix said that having gailey makes taking a qb a lot easier decision.

This is in line with what Coach Sal shared with us.

Interesting.

NOT THE DUDE...
04-19-2011, 11:53 AM
please dareus or miller... no qb, we already have a good one, whats he going to do, sit on the bench for 8 years....

CleveSteve
04-19-2011, 12:54 PM
Just trying to bait AZ, CIN, SF to trade up IMO.

cookie G
04-19-2011, 12:55 PM
Mr. Modrak, please watch the Nebraska and Texas Tech games.

trapezeus
04-19-2011, 01:24 PM
my heart says that bills won't take a QB in this spot. if they are honest with themselves, they know they'll be picking top 10 again next year, no matter how good everyone turns out. we dont have the depth to weather any injuries on either side of the ball.

ct bills fan
04-19-2011, 01:24 PM
Great article on him; I still think pick #3 is miller, but, if Gabbert is considered the franchise QB, then you have to take him.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AogCv7R0cmz7phgSaBSTZVk5nYcB?slug=lc-carpenter_memory_improves_gabbert_stock_041911

TacklingDummy
04-19-2011, 01:32 PM
if they are honest with themselves, they know they'll be picking top 10 again next year, no matter how good everyone turns out.
That's exactly it. It's not a 1 year fix.

TigerJ
04-19-2011, 01:53 PM
I have no idea whether or not Buffalo will pick a QB at #3 overall. I don't think Nix is lying, but they have more than one player rated very highly at the top of the first round. Liking him doesn't mean they will take him, but they might.

X-Era
04-19-2011, 03:40 PM
Not necessarily Gabbert related... I love that he said that now is the right time to take a QB. That totally fits with the way some of us see it. Fitz's contract being up next year, being able to sit him for this whole year while we get better in other areas, Gailey getting time to develop him slowly...

It really makes sense to do it this way IMO.

Night Train
04-19-2011, 03:42 PM
" Welcome to Salesmenship 101. I'll be schooling you today.."

TacklingDummy
04-19-2011, 03:43 PM
It really makes sense to do it this way IMO.
It would make sense if there was a QB that was worthy of the 3rd pick. Newton/Gabbert will be busts. Other QB's can be drafted in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

Bangarang
04-19-2011, 03:44 PM
Not necessarily Gabbert related... I love that he said that now is the right time to take a QB. That totally fits with the way some of us see it. Fitz's contract being up next year, being able to sit him for this whole year while we get better in other areas, Gailey getting time to develop him slowly...

It really makes sense to do it this way IMO.

I must give you credit. For months now you've been saying don't be surprised if Gabbert is taken at #3. I really don't believe that Nix is trying to blow smoke by saying how much they like Gabbert and how much sense it makes for them to draft a QB now.

The closer we get to draft night, the more I think Gabbert's name will be called when we pick at 3.

Philagape
04-19-2011, 03:56 PM
“It’s not a sin to tell a lie pre-draft. Everybody does it. It’s accepted. So everything you hear or read or see, you need to keep in mind that about 10 percent of it’s the truth.”

-- Buddy Nix

Michael82
04-19-2011, 04:21 PM
Didn't Buddy Nix also say "It's not a sin to lie in pre-Draft talk" ? :scratch:

Michael82
04-19-2011, 04:22 PM
“It’s not a sin to tell a lie pre-draft. Everybody does it. It’s accepted. So everything you hear or read or see, you need to keep in mind that about 10 percent of it’s the truth.”

-- Buddy Nix
That's the quote I was looking for. Exactly! Nix is trying to convince one of the teams to trade up to #2 for Gabbert so Dareus would fall to us. Or else he wants other teams to try to trade with Buffalo....

baalworship
04-19-2011, 04:38 PM
Can anyone make a case that the Bills will not draft a QB in the first or second round?

The biggest clue here is the reality of the NFL. Nix and Gailey passed on QB's last year. If they passed again this year then a quarterback they picked next year would have to be a Sam Bradford type (unlikely). Next year would also be the year that Gailey would be evaluated as whether he should keep his job. Typically coaches get 3 years to turn around a franchise, sometimes less.

There is no way Gailey could start grooming a QB in year 3 AND keep his job next year. He has to have his guy this year.

CleveSteve
04-19-2011, 04:53 PM
Can anyone make a case that the Bills will not draft a QB in the first or second round?

How about the fact that the strength of the draft from 1-35 is in DL (& 3-4 OLB), and 15-35 OT is pretty strong, too? I think those match up well with Bills' strongest needs.

cookie G
04-19-2011, 05:07 PM
Can anyone make a case that the Bills will not draft a QB in the first or second round?

The biggest clue here is the reality of the NFL. Nix and Gailey passed on QB's last year. If they passed again this year then a quarterback they picked next year would have to be a Sam Bradford type (unlikely). Next year would also be the year that Gailey would be evaluated as whether he should keep his job. Typically coaches get 3 years to turn around a franchise, sometimes less.

There is no way Gailey could start grooming a QB in year 3 AND keep his job next year. He has to have his guy this year.

It is the same argument Buddy Nix did last year when he didn't take an OT until the fifth round....

is the guy you're taking going to be better than the guy you're replacing?

(of course, there WERE better tackles available, we just didn't bother).

The 2 most likely candidates, if they pass on Newton, are Ponder and Gabbert. Are Ponder's 20 TD's at a college level better than Fitz' 23 last year? Are Gabbert's 16 TD's? Are either of them better at handling a blitz, or handling pressure in the pocket better than Fitz was? Not if you watched Gabbert when pressured, or Ponder against Oklahoma.

Is the guy you are taking in the first round and "grooming" actually better than the guy you want him to replace?

If not, why bother using a first or a very high 2nd on a guy?

ublinkwescore
04-19-2011, 05:24 PM
It would make sense if there was a QB that was worthy of the 3rd pick. Newton/Gabbert will be busts. Other QB's can be drafted in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

And you know that Gabbert and Newton will be busts how? exactly?

X-Era
04-19-2011, 05:25 PM
Didn't Buddy Nix also say "It's not a sin to lie in pre-Draft talk" ? :scratch:Maybe he wants us to think he's lying about lying. Maybe he's telling the truth about Gabbert but wants you to think he's lying.

Maybe the lie was meant to be a truth that looks like a lie.

:dizzy:

Or maybe we won't know until draft day.

Either way, this will be an exciting draft. I promise you I won't be pulling a "Buddy" and sleeping through the start of it.

X-Era
04-19-2011, 05:26 PM
And you know that Gabbert and Newton will be busts how? exactly?An uncanny knack for ending up right about players.

I wish I was joking. I'll give him credit, he seems to have a knack for nailing things.

Tatonka
04-19-2011, 07:21 PM
the truth is we have no idea who they like.. it may be andy dalton for all we know.

Extremebillsfan247
04-19-2011, 09:31 PM
Not necessarily Gabbert related... I love that he said that now is the right time to take a QB. That totally fits with the way some of us see it. Fitz's contract being up next year, being able to sit him for this whole year while we get better in other areas, Gailey getting time to develop him slowly...

It really makes sense to do it this way IMO.
My interpretation of that meaning is that they fully expect to go defense at the top of the draft, and will with out a doubt take a QB at 34. They want a QB they can sit behind Fitz for a year or 2 to develop as Nix eluded to. My cut and dry picks for this draft as it stands now are Von Miller at 3, and Christian Ponder at 34 unless Mallet slips to that spot. I think the Bills have a genuine interest in Mallet.

Joe Buscaglia of WGR550 had a great take thinking that the whole Gabbert talk was a smoke screen to help Denver out. They want to trade out of 2 supposedly, but will probably have a hard time getting teams to bite. If a team like Cincinnati thinks Buffalo likes Gabbert, and Newton is off the board, they might decide to call up Denver. What that does for Buffalo is leave Dareus there. Then, the Bills will have the guy they are really after. It also still gives Denver Von Miller and an extra pick by moving back behind Buffalo at 4.

The only way I see the Bills drafting Gabbert is if Dareus and Miller go 1 and 2. If Carolina takes Dareus as I think they might, Denver will be almost forced to pick a player. That would most likely end up being either Von Miller, or Patrick Peterson. I doubt they will take a defensive back that high so my guess would be Miller. Then it turns into a coin flip between Newton and Gabbert at 3. But I'd have to lean towards the Bills taking Gabbert if that were the scenario that played out. Joe thinks they would take Newton and that is where we differ in opinions.

X-Era
04-20-2011, 05:56 AM
My interpretation of that meaning is that they fully expect to go defense at the top of the draft, and will with out a doubt take a QB at 34. They want a QB they can sit behind Fitz for a year or 2 to develop as Nix eluded to. My cut and dry picks for this draft as it stands now are Von Miller at 3, and Christian Ponder at 34 unless Mallet slips to that spot. I think the Bills have a genuine interest in Mallet.

Joe Buscaglia of WGR550 had a great take thinking that the whole Gabbert talk was a smoke screen to help Denver out. They want to trade out of 2 supposedly, but will probably have a hard time getting teams to bite. If a team like Cincinnati thinks Buffalo likes Gabbert, and Newton is off the board, they might decide to call up Denver. What that does for Buffalo is leave Dareus there. Then, the Bills will have the guy they are really after. It also still gives Denver Von Miller and an extra pick by moving back behind Buffalo at 4.

The only way I see the Bills drafting Gabbert is if Dareus and Miller go 1 and 2. If Carolina takes Dareus as I think they might, Denver will be almost forced to pick a player. That would most likely end up being either Von Miller, or Patrick Peterson. I doubt they will take a defensive back that high so my guess would be Miller. Then it turns into a coin flip between Newton and Gabbert at 3. But I'd have to lean towards the Bills taking Gabbert if that were the scenario that played out. Joe thinks they would take Newton and that is where we differ in opinions.Personally, I don't see/read it that way. However, everything is possible.

I just think that the Bills really don't play mind games. They won't tell you who they are drafting but they also won't lie to you much about where they rank players. I think they are a bit more transparent than most teams. Besides, what you haven't heard him say is that a) they think Gabbert is a franchise caliber QB, and b) they rank him in the top 5. Right? Really all he said is that Gabberts stock never moved for them. He said it was high, but how high? 15-20?

Johnny Bugmenot
04-20-2011, 06:57 AM
If they're saying high, I think it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that by high, they mean "they're seriously considering drafting him at 3."

X-Era
04-20-2011, 10:11 AM
If they're saying high, I think it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that by high, they mean "they're seriously considering drafting him at 3."A logical step... again assuming you can take them for their word.

HAMMER
04-20-2011, 10:51 AM
You people are really going to drive yourself nuts with all these draft scenarios you're cooking up.

DraftBoy
04-20-2011, 10:55 AM
He's high on my board as well, sitting at #18. 18 is very high out of the 500 I have ranked.

Translation: "High" is a very relative term.

Bill Cody
04-20-2011, 11:12 AM
My interpretation of that meaning is that they fully expect to go defense at the top of the draft, and will with out a doubt take a QB at 34. They want a QB they can sit behind Fitz for a year or 2 to develop as Nix eluded to. My cut and dry picks for this draft as it stands now are Von Miller at 3, and Christian Ponder at 34 unless Mallet slips to that spot. I think the Bills have a genuine interest in Mallet.

Joe Buscaglia of WGR550 had a great take thinking that the whole Gabbert talk was a smoke screen to help Denver out. They want to trade out of 2 supposedly, but will probably have a hard time getting teams to bite. If a team like Cincinnati thinks Buffalo likes Gabbert, and Newton is off the board, they might decide to call up Denver. What that does for Buffalo is leave Dareus there. Then, the Bills will have the guy they are really after. It also still gives Denver Von Miller and an extra pick by moving back behind Buffalo at 4.

The only way I see the Bills drafting Gabbert is if Dareus and Miller go 1 and 2. If Carolina takes Dareus as I think they might, Denver will be almost forced to pick a player. That would most likely end up being either Von Miller, or Patrick Peterson. I doubt they will take a defensive back that high so my guess would be Miller. Then it turns into a coin flip between Newton and Gabbert at 3. But I'd have to lean towards the Bills taking Gabbert if that were the scenario that played out. Joe thinks they would take Newton and that is where we differ in opinions.

Interesting theory. Pure speculation of course and may be completely wrong but interesting.

Raptor
04-20-2011, 12:35 PM
I really just dont get how anyone can watch Blaine Gabbert and come away with the impression that he has any shot what so ever of being a franchise QB