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  • Saratoga Slim
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    • Jul 2005
    • 4154

    Tim Graham on Modrak's draft record

    Mods, please delete if already posted, but thought the following had some interesting stats.....

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  • Buffalo Thriller
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    • Sep 2010
    • 1744

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    Re: Tim Graham on Modrak's draft record

    We still need to draft better..
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    • Philagape
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      • Jul 2002
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      #3
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      That piece is a pretty ridiculous exercise.

      Pro Bowlers? Who cares? Besides, two of them are RBs and both are gone.

      High-round starters? It's having them as starters that have led to a decade in the toilet.

      Low-round starters? They have to start because so many guys taken ahead of them sucked.

      "Bills draft record not as bad as you think"?
      Have the Bills made the playoffs?
      Then yes, it's as bad as I think.
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      • Ebenezer
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        • Jul 2002
        • 73867

        #4
        Re: Tim Graham on Modrak's draft record

        Tim Graham gets paid to write that?




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        • paranoid
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          • Sep 2009
          • 142

          #5
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          They've "missed some"?

          Even if they occassionally find some talent in the mid to late rounds, their disastrous record of round one picks are unacceptable and inexcusable, despite this rationalizing puff piece written by Graham. Modrak continues to downplay the baffling decision-making he has overseen for the past decade. They can't hit on a number one pick if their lives depend on it, and never will as long as Modrack is there. Outrageous that Graham seeks to defend this front office.

          Bizarre.

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          • nolimit
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            • Aug 2003
            • 542

            #6
            Re: Tim Graham on Modrak's draft record

            pretty sure we drafted mike williams 4th overall not 5th

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            • Buddo
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              • Mar 2007
              • 1864

              #7
              Re: Tim Graham on Modrak's draft record

              Originally posted by paranoid
              They've "missed some"?

              Even if they occassionally find some talent in the mid to late rounds, their disastrous record of round one picks are unacceptable and inexcusable, despite this rationalizing puff piece written by Graham. Modrak continues to downplay the baffling decision-making he has overseen for the past decade. They can't hit on a number one pick if their lives depend on it, and never will as long as Modrack is there. Outrageous that Graham seeks to defend this front office.

              Bizarre.
              Therein almost certainly lies the problem. Modrak hasn't 'overseen' anything, in that he hasn't made the pick.
              If Modrak had made all of those picks himself, then undoubtedly he should no longer be anywhere near the Bills. The simple fact is, that he hasn't had the call on them.

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              • trapezeus
                Legendary Zoner
                • Oct 2004
                • 19525

                #8
                Re: Tim Graham on Modrak's draft record

                Modrak's actual involvement in the bills decisions is like debating religion. No one knows, everyone acts like they do, and at the end of the debate, we still don't know what he does.

                Even if he isn't making the decisions that's not a good sign. 10 years and the bills still employ him for mega bucks and decide not to use his information? Something is up with him skills and he needs to go.

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                • Bill Cody
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                  • Sep 2004
                  • 11911

                  #9
                  Re: Tim Graham on Modrak's draft record

                  Modrak must have pics of Ralph with a horse or something. How else can you explain him still being employed here?

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                  • Jan Reimers
                    Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                    • May 2003
                    • 17353

                    #10
                    Re: Tim Graham on Modrak's draft record

                    [QUOTE=trapezeus]Modrak's actual involvement in the bills decisions is like debating religion. No one knows, everyone acts like they do, and at the end of the debate, we still don't know what he does.
                    I agree with this part of your post, trap.

                    No one knows how many of the decisions on draft day were his, and how many were Donahoe's, Williams', Mularkey's, Levy's, Jauron's, Brandon's or Gailey/Nix's over the years.

                    Does anyone imagine that the head of college scouting has decision-making power over the GM and Head Coach?

                    I'm not necessarily defending him, but he was highly thought of with both the Steelers and Eagles. It could be that his bosses in Buffalo have at least helped make him look bad.

                    We just don't know how the draft decisions have been made.
                    Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                    • Ebenezer
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 73867

                      #11
                      Re: Tim Graham on Modrak's draft record

                      Originally posted by Jan Reimers
                      Does anyone imagine that the head of college scouting has decision-making power over the GM and Head Coach?

                      I'm not necessarily defending him, but he was highly thought of with both the Steelers and Eagles. It could be that his bosses in Buffalo have at least helped make him look bad.

                      We just don't know how the draft decisions have been made.
                      Would you hang around for 11 years if you had that little power and the team kept crapping on your opinion? Only Darcy Regier would do that.




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                      • OpIv37
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                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101300

                        #12
                        Re: Tim Graham on Modrak's draft record

                        Originally posted by Jan Reimers

                        I'm not necessarily defending him, but he was highly thought of with both the Steelers and Eagles. It could be that his bosses in Buffalo have at least helped make him look bad.

                        We just don't know how the draft decisions have been made.
                        Which is exactly why Modrak should have been fired.

                        Either he's responsible for the bad draft picks, in which case he's incompetent.

                        Or, he's not responsible for the bad draft picks, in which case management didn't listen to him and he's irrelevant.

                        The Bills have been pretty good at finding talent in the later rounds and finding UDFA's, but no amount of late round success can make up for consistent whiffs at the top of the draft.
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                        • Jan Reimers
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                          • May 2003
                          • 17353

                          #13
                          Re: Tim Graham on Modrak's draft record

                          Originally posted by Ebenezer
                          Would you hang around for 11 years if you had that little power and the team kept crapping on your opinion?
                          Yeah, if I got paid big bucks by the Bills, and got to live in Jacksonville, I would.
                          Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                          • EDS
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 5216

                            #14
                            Re: Tim Graham on Modrak's draft record

                            This article is just noise. Bottom line is the Bills lack talent across the board. The lack of talent can be blamed in large part on the inability of the team to identify and draft quality players.

                            This is a make or break off-season for the Bills. They absolutely have to get some production out of the 2010 and 2011 draftees if they are going to improve as a team. Critical areas they will need to see production from include linebacker, defensive line and offensive line.

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                            • stuckincincy
                              Buffalo Bills Fan
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 15084

                              #15
                              Re: Tim Graham on Modrak's draft record

                              Originally posted by Jan Reimers
                              Yeah, if I got paid big bucks by the Bills, and got to live in Jacksonville, I would.
                              I'd jump on it!

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