Parcells Draft Confidential

[methos4ever]

It's pretty interesting show so far - he has 26 players with a 1st round grade. Very interesting....

[kingJofNYC]

This is awesome.

JJ Watt is the top DE from what I saw.

Gave Brooks Reed a 4th round grade, Carimi a 3rd (has Cannon ahead of him)

Rudolph is the only TE with a 1st or 2nd round grade.

Matthews actually has a 3rd round grade according to his board, so does Pettis.

WR out of Kentucky (Cobb) has a 2nd.

Dalton has a 3rd round grade, think the only QBs with second round grades were Locker and Mallett.

[DraftBoy]

Jah Reid 2nd Round grade.

He had 2 1st Round QB's, and 3 2nd Round QB's. All mentioned by KingJofNYC but didnt see the one 2nd rounder he missed.

If you didnt watch this, you fail.

[CleveSteve]

Oh, man! What channel was this on?

[DraftBoy]

DE Rankings:
1. Watt
2. Bowers
3. Heyward
4. Jordan
5. Quinn
6. Clayborn
7. Bailey
8. Acho

1-6 1st Round grades.

DT:
1. Dareus
2 Fairley
3. Taylor
4. Wilkerson
5. Liuget
6. Paea

[kingJofNYC]

I just hope someone takes a couple of pictures of his board and puts them up on the web.

[DraftBoy]

Oh, man! What channel was this on?

ESPN

[baalworship]

He said any player that is shorter or weighs less than the NFL average get a letter near their name.

Outside linebacker in 3-4 defense 6'3'' 256 Lbs. (On Parcells board)

Von Miller played almost 20 lbs under that this year.

[Ginger Vitis]

He said any player that is shorter or weighs less than the NFL average get a letter near their name.

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Parcells is full of crap.. He drafted a 6'0 190 pound QB in the 2nd Round(Pat White) And after claiming he would never bring aboard malcontents and troublemakers to the Dolphins..He trades 2 2nd Round picks for Brandon Marshall

[baalworship]

Christian Ponder is the other 2nd round QB on Parcells board.

[kingJofNYC]

Is it true that he had Prince ahead of Peterson?

Stopped watching, dvr'd it, because I needed to get some chores done.

[k-oneputt]

Defense linemen and guys that can pressure the qb.
Unless you guys think Parcells if full of **** and doesn't know what he's talking about, he just said it.
So why again would we even consider a wr or cb.

[baalworship]

Parcells said with a a top 10 picks he would want the following:

On Defense: Pass-rusher or cornerback

Offense: Left Tackle, QB, WR, RB

No to DT, Safety, Inside Linebacker, Center, Guard unless they are incredibly special

[CleveSteve]

I hope all the people telling me that Watt shouldn't be 2nd on your board behind Dareus are watching this.

Oh yeah, as well as those who insist clayborn is better than Heyward. :grin:

[baalworship]

Defense linemen and guys that can pressure the qb.
Unless you guys think Parcells if full of **** and doesn't know what he's talking about, he just said it.
So why again would we even consider a wr or cb.


He actually said Cornerback AND Wide Receiver over Defensive Tackle.

I disagree with this philosophy but he said it.

[k-oneputt]

I hope like hell Dareus falls to #3.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

He said any player that is shorter or weighs less than the NFL average get a letter near their name.

Outside linebacker in 3-4 defense 6'3'' 256 Lbs. (On Parcells board)

Von Miller played almost 20 lbs under that this year.

ummm hes 250 now...

[k-oneputt]

Just heard him say dl and pass rushers. And they will go early.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

Parcells said with a a top 10 picks he would want the following:

On Defense: Pass-rusher or cornerback

Offense: Left Tackle, QB, WR, RB

No to DT, Safety, Inside Linebacker, Center, Guard unless they are incredibly special

dareus can play the 7 and pressure... so thats a non issue drafting him at 3

[baalworship]

He also seems to put people as top of the round, middle, and late. He has Cam Newton as a top of the first QB.

[baalworship]

ummm hes 250 now...

So way Maybin. I care about his playing weight.

[DraftBoy]

Parcells did not have 32 players with first round grades, he had either 25 or 26. Just something interesting to note.

[k-oneputt]

Parcells did not have 32 players with first round grades, he had either 25 or 26. Just something interesting to note.

Since we are picking 3rd I think the Bills front office should be able to land one.

[Mike13]

The genius of Parcells is as big as a myth as big foot or any greek mythological figure.

[k-oneputt]

The genius of Parcells is as big as a myth as big foot or any greek mythological figure.

Yeah you are probably right, he doesn't really understand the game and was lucky to win those Superbowls and turn around franchises.
If the Bills could have just hung on a little longer with Donahoe, Levy, Brandon, Jauron, Modrak I'm sure they would have reached those heights also.

[wmoz11]

Just a note on Dareus that I read in another article from a scout:

"He's the best 5-technique, 3-technique, and NT in the draft."

That's not verbatim, but you get the jist. That's the kind of versatility that we need if we plan on running 4 and 3-man fronts. Hope he falls to 3.

[Mike13]

Yeah you are probably right, he doesn't really understand the game and was lucky to win those Superbowls and turn around franchises.
If the Bills could have just hung on a little longer with Donahoe, Levy, Brandon, Jauron, Modrak I'm sure they would have reached those heights also.

The game passed him by and he stubbornly refused to adapt to the changing landscape of the NFL.

[Extremebillsfan247]

The game passed him by and he stubbornly refused to adapt to the changing landscape of the NFL.
Yeah, I have to agree with that some what. He does make very good points when he talks about drafting though. JMO

[methos4ever]

The game passed him by and he stubbornly refused to adapt to the changing landscape of the NFL.
From what he was saying on the special Mike, would you agree that the mistakes he did make as a Dolphin tsar was the result of him deviating from his system and not using it? For instance, looking at the Long/Ryan pick in a vacuum, people forget how many didn't like Ryan coming out - that he was in a system that he didn't do as well as expected in?

[methos4ever]

Here's most of what Pats Pulpit got from the board:
http://www.patspulpit.com/2011/4/25/2133222/nfl-draft-2011-bill-parcells-draft-board

QB:

1st: Newton, Gabbert

2nd: Mallett, Ponder, Locker

3rd: Dalton, Kaepernick

--

WR:

1st: Green, Jones

2nd: Smith, Cobb, Young

3rd: Hankerson, Baldwin, Pettis, Jernigan, Gates (?)

--

RB:

1st: Ingram

2nd: Williams, Thomas, Leshoure

3rd: Murray, Hunter

--

TE:

1st: Rudolph

2nd: None

--

OT:

1st: Solder, Smith, Castonzo

2nd: Sherrod, Reid

3rd: Cannon, Carimi, Ijalana

--

OG:

1st: None

2nd: Watkins, Wisniewski

3rd: Carpenter, Rackley

4th: Boling, Moffitt

--

OC:

1st: Pouncey

2nd: None

3rd: Hudson

4th: Fusco


DE:

1st: Watt, Bowers, Heyward, Jordan, Quinn, Clayborne

2nd: Bailey, Acho

3rd: Ballard, Sheard, McPhee

4th: Romeus

--

DT/NT:

1st: Dareus, Fairley, Taylor, Wilkerson

2nd: Liuget, Paea, Austin

3rd: Nevis, Ellis, Powell, Jenkins

--

OLB:

1st: Miller, Smith, Kerrigan

2nd: Ayers, Moch, Houston

--

ILB:

1st: Irving

2nd: Wilson, Carter

3rd: Matthews, Sheppard, Homan

4th: Jones, Sturdivant

--

S:

1st: None

2nd: Moore, McDaniel

--

CB:

1st: Peterson, Amukamara

2nd: Smith, Williams, Brown(?), Harris


I DVR'd it, but have to head into work early. If no one has a pic by the time I return home, I'll upload some pics of the board itself.

[methos4ever]

Two really rough snapshots before I leave...I'll try and take a photo from the dvr later..

But at least you can take the list above and apply it to what you visually can (and cannot) see.

[Mr. Miyagi]

ESPN
Nobody watches ESPN anymore.

Maybe ESPNU for the Gruden camp, that's it.

NFL Network is all I watch now.

[Mike13]

From what he was saying on the special Mike, would you agree that the mistakes he did make as a Dolphin tsar was the result of him deviating from his system and not using it? For instance, looking at the Long/Ryan pick in a vacuum, people forget how many didn't like Ryan coming out - that he was in a system that he didn't do as well as expected in?

I think the Pat White pick was more of him deviating from his system than taking Long over Ryan.

[Bill Cody]

I just hope someone takes a couple of pictures of his board and puts them up on the web.

Forget the web get this info to our "brain trust"

[Mike]

Just a note on Dareus that I read in another article from a scout:

"He's the best 5-technique, 3-technique, and NT in the draft."

That's not verbatim, but you get the jist. That's the kind of versatility that we need if we plan on running 4 and 3-man fronts. Hope he falls to 3.
he could be like our version of Richard Seymour