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  • psubills62
    Legendary Zoner
    • Sep 2008
    • 11295

    So Taylor...but not Ngata?

    Sorry, it's not directly related to the Bills...but why the heck does a Dick Jauron-led defense need both Ahyba Rubin (330 lbs, big run stuffer) and Phil Taylor (330+ pounds), but somehow Ngata doesn't deserve to be picked?

    Anyway, I was simply baffled by that pick. Also scratched my head at Locker and Ponder. Carpenter was a surprise.

    Other note: Baltimore is reportedly seeking compensation (fourth rounder last I heard) from Chicago for backing out of the deal that caused them to miss the 26th pick. NFL should rule on it relatively shortly.
    "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
    - Nicholas Cummings
  • ParanoidAndroid
    My battery is low and it's getting dark.
    • Apr 2004
    • 16862

    #2
    Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

    My guess is that someone else was making the picks.

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    • k-oneputt
      Registered User
      • Jun 2009
      • 7132

      #3
      Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

      You notice Gailey said that Dareus can fit in all schemes. Translation: He's a player.
      Unlike Dickface who claimed Ngata didn't fit. What kinda idiotic bs is that ?
      but I'm 100% sure that Jauron had no say whatsoever over the draft pick, and rightfully so.

      Have you lit any candles today to get a Penn St. player drafted ????

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      • alohabillsfan
        Registered User
        • Sep 2003
        • 3206

        #4
        Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

        Originally posted by k-oneputt
        You notice Gailey said that Dareus can fit in all schemes. Translation: He's a player.
        Unlike Dickface who claimed Ngata didn't fit. What kinda idiotic bs is that ?
        but I'm 100% sure that Jauron had no say whatsoever over the draft pick, and rightfully so.

        Have you lit any candles today to get a Penn St. player drafted ????

        Are there any?

        Can we give ours back?

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        • Mahdi
          Registered User
          • Mar 2004
          • 10585

          #5
          Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

          Originally posted by psubills62
          Sorry, it's not directly related to the Bills...but why the heck does a Dick Jauron-led defense need both Ahyba Rubin (330 lbs, big run stuffer) and Phil Taylor (330+ pounds), but somehow Ngata doesn't deserve to be picked?

          Anyway, I was simply baffled by that pick. Also scratched my head at Locker and Ponder. Carpenter was a surprise.

          Other note: Baltimore is reportedly seeking compensation (fourth rounder last I heard) from Chicago for backing out of the deal that caused them to miss the 26th pick. NFL should rule on it relatively shortly.
          I was waiting for this question to come up... lol

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          • k-oneputt
            Registered User
            • Jun 2009
            • 7132

            #6
            Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

            Originally posted by alohabillsfan
            Are there any?

            Can we give ours back?
            I have two PSU linebackers they can have back for a bag of footballs.

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            • psubills62
              Legendary Zoner
              • Sep 2008
              • 11295

              #7
              Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

              Originally posted by k-oneputt
              You notice Gailey said that Dareus can fit in all schemes. Translation: He's a player.
              Unlike Dickface who claimed Ngata didn't fit. What kinda idiotic bs is that ?
              but I'm 100% sure that Jauron had no say whatsoever over the draft pick, and rightfully so.

              Have you lit any candles today to get a Penn St. player drafted ????
              I'm sure you're happy about the Dareus pick. And it's obvious Jauron had no say in that pick. Still frustrating to see.

              Haha, nope. I expect Wisniewski to go mid-late 2nd round, but that's about it. Nobody else really worth drafting, maybe Royster late in the 6th or 7th.

              But as we all (should) know, the draft doesn't necessarily reflect on a team and how they do in college. Temple is just one example, Patrick Peterson being beaten out by a future later round WR (Moye) for a TD another. Many others.

              Funny how you can't seem to keep focused on whatever is at hand. And this is a topic we seem to agree on, too, with Ngata/Jauron.
              "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
              - Nicholas Cummings

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              • Novacane
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 42374

                #8
                Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

                Easy answer. In this draft there was not a stud safety sitting there that he simply couldn't pass on.

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                • trapezeus
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 19525

                  #9
                  Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

                  jauron is also the CB coach. he isn't the DC. So his input is probably close to zero. if they are high on a CB, they probably ask him. if not, they don't need his two cents.

                  that's my guess.

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                  • kingJofNYC
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 5960

                    #10
                    Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

                    Jauron is the DC, but you're correct, he has no say in Cleveland. They actually have a capable GM.

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                    • EDS
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 5216

                      #11
                      Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

                      Originally posted by trapezeus
                      jauron is also the CB coach. he isn't the DC. So his input is probably close to zero. if they are high on a CB, they probably ask him. if not, they don't need his two cents.

                      that's my guess.
                      Though they did draft a corner in round 1 last year and a safety in round 2 . . .

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                      • trapezeus
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 19525

                        #12
                        Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

                        i didn't know that jauron moved to cleveland. thanks. i thought he was still on the eagles as a CB coach.

                        they did trade for a boat load of picks. perhaps jauron will get the 8 CB/Punt returners that all championship teams need.

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                        • Mike
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3805

                          #13
                          Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

                          Sorry, it's not directly related to the Bills...but why the heck does a Dick Jauron-led defense need both Ahyba Rubin (330 lbs, big run stuffer) and Phil Taylor (330+ pounds), but somehow Ngata doesn't deserve to be picked?

                          Anyway, I was simply baffled by that pick. Also scratched my head at Locker and Ponder. Carpenter was a surprise.

                          Other note: Baltimore is reportedly seeking compensation (fourth rounder last I heard) from Chicago for backing out of the deal that caused them to miss the 26th pick. NFL should rule on it relatively shortly.
                          Your asking DJ to make sense with the picks, obviously you know that you are asking for the impossible.
                          Please Make Sense

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                          • baalworship
                            Registered User
                            • May 2003
                            • 1641

                            #14
                            Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

                            The Browns, unlike the Bills, are not letting Dick Jauron make the picks. He will have to use 320 lb lineman whether he wants to or not.

                            If he was picking they would take a cornerback or safety. Special teams ability important also!

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                            • k-oneputt
                              Registered User
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 7132

                              #15
                              Re: So Taylor...but not Ngata?

                              Originally posted by psubills62
                              I'm sure you're happy about the Dareus pick. And it's obvious Jauron had no say in that pick. Still frustrating to see.

                              Haha, nope. I expect Wisniewski to go mid-late 2nd round, but that's about it. Nobody else really worth drafting, maybe Royster late in the 6th or 7th.

                              But as we all (should) know, the draft doesn't necessarily reflect on a team and how they do in college. Temple is just one example, Patrick Peterson being beaten out by a future later round WR (Moye) for a TD another. Many others.

                              Funny how you can't seem to keep focused on whatever is at hand. And this is a topic we seem to agree on, too, with Ngata/Jauron.
                              You're right, can't keep focused when I can bust balls on Penn St.

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