With the 34th pick in the 2011 draft the Buffalo Bills select CB Aaron Williams

[Ebenezer]

CB Aaron Williams

[BertSquirtgum]

i don't know how i feel about this pick....

[sqad5]

wtf i knew they would eventually **** up

[Zero]

W-T-F?

[NOT THE DUDE...]

they needed a starter at cb, florence is gone, mcgee is up there in age...

[Buckets]

There's the Bills I know!!!!!!!

[madness]

Goodbye Donte?

[Novacane]

Nice player but not at 34. Another Buffalo Bills reach :rolleyes:

[Buffalo Thriller]

I said that we needed to go Jimmy Smith, or Aaron Williams. The kid is good, everyone calm down.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

Not the worst pick in the world, but not the best either. As I stated before, DB depth is due for some fresh faces so this is an upgrade.

Still, I think there were more ideal positions that could have been filled in this round. Maybe there'll be some trading up, IDK.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Ahhh just as I suspected all the idiots are upset because they don't know enough about football to know who Aaron williams is. The guy was one of the best available players. Florence is now gone for sure, which is fine with me.

[Mahdi]

I thought we would go Dowling... we went with the next best CB on the board. They realize that if they want to be able to unleash blitzers they need guys that can cover...

Its a good move.

[DrGraves]

mcgee's career is over. mark my words.

[mayotm]

Nice player but not at 34. Another Buffalo Bills reach :rolleyes:I don't love the pick, but it's not really a reach. It's about where most projected him to go.

[Night Train]

Goodbye Donte?

This. He's our new starter at SS.

Mayock is basically saying that and the write-ups say he projects as a safety. Rated 1st/2nd round talent in Ourlads with a 9.03 overall rating. Slaps down a lot of balls.

[madness]

Boomer knew it.

[cpearl]

Probably playing safety.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Nice player but not at 34. Another Buffalo Bills reach :rolleyes:
Why is it a reach? He was in most of the top 10 best available player lists I have seen.

[christhebillsfan783]

Unreal....lets reach for a player for the strongest area of the team...

[Oaf]

I wanted Peterson if not for Dareus. Not a bad pick. A CB can deeply affect the run game and he's supposed to be the toughest run corner in the draft.

[Dr. Pepper]

i dont understand how so many people around here can know so much about so many college players, to the point where we're complaining about a 2nd round pick who was given an 88 by espn (you know, guys who are paid to rank players).

[THATHURMANATOR]

This. He's our new starter at SS.

Mayock is basically saying that and the write-ups say he projects as a safety. Rated 1st/2nd round talent in Ourlads with a 9.03 overall rating. Slaps down a lot of balls.
Oh that could be it too!

[Oaf]

Boomer knew it.
Yeah, how?

[BuffaloBlitz83]

He will be a safety. I preferred an OLB or QB but it works. It isn't a reach. He has a 2nd round grade

[CAbills]

Unreal....lets reach for a player for the strongest area of the team...

You think DB is the strongest area of the team? Really....?

[Whysoserious?]

Lol @ you people

[THATHURMANATOR]

i dont understand how so many people around here can know so much about so many college players, to the point where we're complaining about a 2nd round pick who was given an 88 by espn (you know, guys who are paid to rank players).
They don't they are just know it alls, and probably 99% of them have never even seen most of these guys play a down.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

He is starting at corner!

[Slim]

Unreal....lets reach for a player for the strongest area of the team...

Corner is not the strongest area of the team.

[THATHURMANATOR]

You think DB is the strongest area of the team? Really....?
It really is just idiotic and maddening to see how people react on this board.

[Philagape]

Nice player but not at 34. Another Buffalo Bills reach :rolleyes:

Where was Williams supposed to be drafted? First two mocks I just checked had him in upper second round

[Extremebillsfan247]

Goodbye Donte?
Pretty much. Williams can play the Safety position.

[Mahdi]

Unreal....lets reach for a player for the strongest area of the team...
strongest area??? Explain?

[BillsWin]

As someone who lives in the heart of big 12 land let me tell you that the kid is a player and was well worth the 34th overall pick. Should we have taken him with so many other needs? Meh. It's debatable. But he's going to start from day one and he can play ball. Some thought he was going to go late 1st. not a reach, he's just not a sexy pick.

[Dr. Pepper]

They don't they are just know it alls, and probably 99% of them have never even seen most of these guys play a down.

yeah, i mean ive watched texas play multiple times in the past couple years, and i still couldnt tell you a thing about whether this guy is a "reach".

[cookie G]

can never have enough high end DB's, obviously.

Dareus can play all positions on the DL, just not at once.

[Ebenezer]

Unreal....lets reach for a player for the strongest area of the team...


Strongest??? Please list all these all-pros the Bills have at CB...or even the defensive backfield. OMG.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

Unreal....lets reach for a player for the strongest area of the team...
Nah, RB is the strongest position on this team. Followed by WR. Then we get to secondary.

[Billsouth]

Great pick! Hell, even kiper said it was a good pick. He was projected early on as a top 15 pick!

[Philagape]

CB is a need, and Williams is absolutely not a reach.

[cookie G]

They don't they are just know it alls, and probably 99% of them have never even seen most of these guys play a down.

No, we've seen our other first and 2nd round DB's play, and realize they did little to help the worst run D in the NFL.

[Zero]

Couldnt we have traded down and still gotten this guy?

[don137]

They were saying on NFL Network that their are a few good DBs left in draft and they will not last until round three. Taking that in mind sounds like that was a smart decision and they can go for a position of need with depth later.

[Philagape]

People calling him a reach = "I've never heard of him"

[DrGraves]

He had no INT's last year?

[baalworship]

I like him better than Ras-I Dowling who apparently is always injured. Not a good trait for a football player.

[THATHURMANATOR]

No, we've seen our other first and 2nd round DB's play, and realize they did little to help the worst run D in the NFL.
Oh yeah I forgot that they passed on D line in the first round.....

We have Dareus, Williams, Carrington, Johnson, Troupe, and Edwards. That is 6 guys. How many more are needed? We are probably losing Whitner and Florence.

[YardRat]

To look at the bright side...2 picks, 2 new starters for the defense. Yes, it isn't the LBer I was looking for, but considering the condition of our secondary I'll take it.

He better turn out to be a better player than Houston or Wilson though.

[BuffaloBlitz83]

You need 3 corners in the NFL today. 1 at Nickelback.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Couldnt we have traded down and still gotten this guy?
I don't know why don't you tell us.

He was projected as 33rd best player on CBS sportsline.

Could we have traded down? Where teams trying to trade with us?

[BuffaloBlitz83]

This message board is Always Anti Defense Back it is hilarious.

[Zero]

I don't know why don't you tell us.

He was projected as 33rd best player on CBS sportsline.

Could we have traded down? Where teams trying to trade with us?



Buddy says he had offers, so apparently yes.

[Ebenezer]

It's shocking that posters were ripping the DBs (except Byrd) last year. Not one redeemable DB on the team...and now they draft a CB and everybody hates it....amazing.

[Slim]

Bill's can get LB's in FA too. This isn't the end of the off-season guys, its the start.

[Philagape]

Couldnt we have traded down and still gotten this guy?

If this is the guy they wanted, why would they? He could have gone at any time.

[Michael82]

I wasn't a huge fan at first, due to all the LBs still being there. But I can live with it, especially if it means that Donte Whitner is gone. A lot of mock drafts had him going to the Steelers in the 1st round. So it's not a reach. And we did need a SS and/or CB. So it fills a need.

[justasportsfan]

Mayock has him ranked as best sfety in this years draft
Safeties

1. Aaron Williams, Texas
2. Rahim Moore, UCLA
3. Marcus Gilchrist, Clemson
4. Ahmad Black, Florida
5. Quinton Carter, Oklahoma

o Mayock has finally moved Aaron Williams to safety and the number one overall. Both he and Deion were convinced it was his best position during the combine, early second projection. Sash was dropped.


http://nflfootballnow.com/2011/04/12/mike-mayocks-top-5-by-position-nfl-draft/

[Ebenezer]

I don't think he will move to S...they have too many glaring holes at CB.

[Michael82]

Mayock has him ranked as best sfety in this years draft

http://nflfootballnow.com/2011/04/12/mike-mayocks-top-5-by-position-nfl-draft/
That makes me feel better. We definitely need a safety. Whitner needs to go.

[madness]

Yeah, how?

I don't know but right before the pick he said he wonders what will happen with Donte Whitner.

[BillsWin]

Our defense is going to look completely different this season.


That's a good thing.

[justasportsfan]

I think the experts are pissed off because we didn't grab him at #9 where we grabbed Whitner

[mysticsoto]

I wasn't a huge fan at first, due to all the LBs still being there. But I can live with it, especially if it means that Donte Whitner is gone. A lot of mock drafts had him going to the Steelers in the 1st round. So it's not a reach. And we did need a SS and/or CB. So it fills a need.

Ditto. I wasn't a huge fan at 1st, but I can see why they did it and he's growing on me as a safety. Other than Byrd 2 yrs ago, our safeties have been performing sub par. This is a move to change that.

[Philagape]

As far as "the bills always draft DBs" ... they didn't draft any last year! This is Nix's first one

[THATHURMANATOR]

Buddy says he had offers, so apparently yes.
You didn't anwer the question though. Would Williams have been available later. He was ranked in the 30-35 range.

[dannyek71]

Maybe Mallet will be there in the 3rd. Not necessarily a fan of the guy, but would take a shot at him in the 3rd

[psubills62]

As far as "the bills always draft DBs" ... they didn't draft any last year! This is Nix's first one
Jauron's imprint is still visible on the fanbase.

[justasportsfan]

That makes me feel better. We definitely need a safety. Whitner needs to go.

just remember, Brady and their TE's lit us up .

[TigerJ]

I didn't really expect this, though I did see on Drafttek, on their continuous computer simulation after the first round they projected Williams to the Bills. My hope was the Bills would be able to retain their important secondary players so they could use the draft to upgrade areas where they are weaker, but if Nix is pretty sure he's going to lose some starters either through free agency or the team's own choice, then you've got to replace them.

Drafttek is simulating Ricky Stanzi to Buffalo in the third.

[Night Train]

I don't think he will move to S...they have too many glaring holes at CB.

The scouting reports all say Safety is his future and it looks like he takes Whitners slot.

[Mahdi]

Look I like the Williams pick, but if Brooks Reed turns out to be a star in Houston I will blame Nix. Because we need a LOLB and this kid is perfect for it.

[Dr. Pepper]

people who are complaining that we reached... do you realize that dalton, kaepernick, bruce carter, and jarvis jenkins were all taken within 10 picks after ours??? from everything ive read or heard, williams is far more talented at his position than any of those guys.

[Ebenezer]

The scouting reports all say Safety is his future and it looks like he takes Whitners slot.
If that is true then this team still has exactly zero starters at CB.

[Ebenezer]

Look I like the Williams pick, but if Brooks Reed turns out to be a star in Houston I will blame Nix. Because we need a LOLB and this kid is perfect for it.
And what if Williams turns into an All-Pro?? If both are all-pros will you really be upset?

[ddaryl]

classic over reaction on the 1st page...

obviously he was the b.p.a in a position of need for the Bills at #34...

Nix said we will be active in FA, whenever that begins. LB'er is an obvious FA possibility.. So start asking ourselves who's the top FA LB's

[mysticsoto]

The scouting reports all say Safety is his future and it looks like he takes Whitners slot.

What are the odds that right now Op is running down his neigborhood street naked screaming happily at the top of his lungs?

[DraftBoy]

Not a fan, lots of question marks. Very much a tweener at this point. Ill have more explanation later.

[Bangarang]

I don't hate it as much as others.

[justasportsfan]

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/04/texas-cb-aaron-williams-drafted-no-34-ov.html

[Zero]

You didn't anwer the question though. Would Williams have been available later. He was ranked in the 30-35 range.


What I posed was a hypothetical question, not to be taken literally as there is no way of knowing the outcome. Likewise it's impossible for me to answer your second question ( I answered your first) because I cannot predict the future. It would have depended, of course, on what the position of need of the next few teams was.

I was trying to pick the brains of those posting on here. I thought front seven help was a more immediate need and the defense as a whole would have been most positively affected by addressing the LB position.

[BillsWin]

To me he is more aggressive against the run than in the pass. I think we are definitely trying to shore that area up.

[wmoz11]

You can not like the pick - that's fine, there were other positions out there - but it was certainly NOT a reach.

Steelers fans down here were clamoring for him at #31.

[Philagape]

What I posed was a hypothetical question, not to be taken literally as there is no way of knowing the outcome. Likewise it's impossible for me to answer your second question ( I answered your first) because I cannot predict the future. It would have depended, of course, on what the position of need of the next few teams was.

I was trying to pick the brains of those posting on here. I thought front seven help was a more immediate need and the defense as a whole would have been most positively affected by addressing the LB position.

The draft is not for immediate needs, it's for long term

[Ebenezer]

You can not like the pick - that's fine, there were other positions out there - but it was certainly NOT a reach.

Steelers fans down here were clamoring for him at #31.
...and people would have credited them with a great pic because of the steelers picking history...

[Prov401]

Love the pick.

[TigerJ]

classic over reaction on the 1st page...

obviously he was the b.p.a in a position of need for the Bills at #34...

Nix said we will be active in FA, whenever that begins. LB'er is an obvious FA possibility.. So start asking ourselves who's the top FA LB's I didn't post on the first page, and I don't think you'll find what I posted on the second to be any kind of overreaction, but I would point out that Nix is also on the record as saying Buffalo is not going after big name free agents. Rather, the Bills are going to target mid-priced guys. Translation: role players. Does the name Reggie Torbor ring a bell?

[Mahdi]

And what if Williams turns into an All-Pro?? If both are all-pros will you really be upset?
Good question... I guess if Reed becomes Clay and Williams becomes Dawkins I would be ok.

[Ebenezer]

Good question... I guess if Reed becomes Clay and Williams becomes Dawkins I would be ok.
If our picks pan out then I don't care thing one what other teams do. You can't have all-pros at every position and you are not going to field all the starters in the all-pro game. Every team is going to have hits...make sure you have your hits.

[Canadian'eh!]

He's too poor a tackler to be a S, and he's slowish and has poor hands for a CB.

Don't like the pick at all compared to a pass rusher/LB.

[SaviorEdwards]

Terrible pick LOL I was driving home from work and the guys on ESPN radio were laughing about it with all of our needs.

[Mahdi]

Texas DBs have worked out pretty well in the NFL...

Aaron Ross

Michael Huff (had a great year last year)

Earl Thomas (huge rookie year)

Michael Griffin

Cedric Griffin

Nathan Vasher (has slowed down but was a bigtime CB during their SB run)

Quentin Jammer

Bryant Westbrook

Jerry Gray

[THATHURMANATOR]

You can not like the pick - that's fine, there were other positions out there - but it was certainly NOT a reach.

Steelers fans down here were clamoring for him at #31.
This is the best post in this thread.

You don't like the guy that is totally cool, but people sound like idiots when they freak out acting like we drafted a 4th rounder.

[Bangarang]

Terrible pick LOL I was driving home from work and the guys on ESPN radio were laughing about it with all of our needs.

Well I'm convinced. I mean, if the guys on ESPN radio say it's a bad pick then that settles it.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Terrible pick LOL I was driving home from work and the guys on ESPN radio were laughing about it with all of our needs.
Explain why he is a bad pick.

[THATHURMANATOR]

He's too poor a tackler to be a S, and he's slowish and has poor hands for a CB.

Don't like the pick at all compared to a pass rusher/LB.
The only thing I am saying is he wasn't a reach. You may not like him or wanted a different player.

[mysticsoto]

Terrible pick LOL I was driving home from work and the guys on ESPN radio were laughing about it with all of our needs.

How would they know? They don't pay attention to anything relating to the Bills...

[Ebenezer]

Terrible pick LOL I was driving home from work and the guys on ESPN radio were laughing about it with all of our needs.
Link?

[mysticsoto]

He's too poor a tackler to be a S, and he's slowish and has poor hands for a CB.

Don't like the pick at all compared to a pass rusher/LB.

The Bills FO feel Merriman will be our pass rushing LB on one side and Kelsay on the other side.

[Ebenezer]

The Bills FO feel Merriman will be our pass rushing LB on one side and Kelsay on the other side.
Not a ringing endorsement, really.....

[methos4ever]

Buddy during the presser on Williams that "Drayton is unsigned but we haven't lost him yet." I think they re-sign Drayton, let Youboty walk and let the depth continue to be built.

[mysticsoto]

Not a ringing endorsement, really.....

Houston is still available...

[Mad Bomber]

Oh yeah I forgot that they passed on D line in the first round.....

We have Dareus, Williams, Carrington, Johnson, Troupe, and Edwards. That is 6 guys. How many more are needed? We are probably losing Whitner and Florence.
:bf1:

[THATHURMANATOR]

The Bills FO feel Merriman will be our pass rushing LB on one side and Kelsay on the other side.
I forgot we still had Kelsey.

[Ebenezer]

I forgot we still had Kelsey.
easy to forget him.

[mysticsoto]

easy to forget him.

I'm not a fan of his at all, but last year he played well...

[Michael82]

I forgot we still had Kelsey.
I try to forget him, but then it's too hard to forget that he was given that extension. :ill:

[unpaid_bills]

Guy was projected late first-early second by "the experts" so wouldnt call it a reach by any means
He played well for a big time school Texas against tough competition every week
He is Pro ready, good size, measurables
Fills a need and gives up some depth for sure. Can play DB/S.Special teams. Looks like maybe play right away.

Like the pick

[BuffaloBlitz83]

Guy was projected late first-early second by "the experts" so wouldnt call it a reach by any means
He played well for a big time school Texas against tough competition every week
He is Pro ready, good size, measurables
Fills a need and gives up some depth for sure. Can play DB/S.Special teams. Looks like maybe play right away.

Like the pick

Good post. Don't worry about the know it all couch potatos.

[Luisito23]

I think it's good pick...Like many said, he has good size, he's smart, and should be able to come in and start right away.

People are just hating because he's not a name they recognize, and he's another DB who they think for some stupid reason is not needed.

[paladin warrior]

It okay pick 34th. But I rather like to pick QB or LB before CB:whistling

[cookie G]

Oh yeah I forgot that they passed on D line in the first round.....

We have Dareus, Williams, Carrington, Johnson, Troupe, and Edwards. That is 6 guys. How many more are needed? We are probably losing Whitner and Florence.

Lol. I'm impressed...you can rattle off names on the roster.

While you're talking about other people not watching games...you didn't happen to notice teams running for 200 yards on these guys you named, did you?

You didn't happen to notice the ease at which opposing RB's were going around and through these people, did you?

But I'm impressed, you even spelled their names right.


Evaluating how well they played....that's another matter.

You don't really think Dareus fixes the run D by himself, do you?

But what the hell, some haven't met a DB draft choice they didn't like.

[mysticsoto]

2011 NFL Draft: Mel Kiper Calls Aaron Williams A Top Steal (http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2011/5/4/2152949/Mel-kiper-aaron-williams-2011-NFL-Draft-Results)

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"He wound up going 34. I thought he’d be a late one," said Kiper. "I thought teams like Philadelphia would look at him and some of those teams late (in the first). To get him where they did, that’s a nice pick there."

Because of the great value, Kiper listed Williams among his top steals (https://twitter.com/#%21/MelKiperESPN/status/65476264517054466) of the 2011 NFL Draft.

"Aaron Williams I really like at that point where [the Bills] got him," said Kiper this week. "He can play corner, he can play safety, he’s the toughest run support corner that I’ve graded in the last five years."


http://www.buffalorumblings.com/

[Bangarang]

Anyone see the GameChangers episode featuring Aarong Williams and Prince Amukamara hit the field with Steve Mariucci and go through different aspects of being a corner and then hit the film room. I think Williams looked much better than Prince on the field. Prince didn't look like he was taking it very seriously though. Still, Williams has amazing body control in the air. He also looked really good on the white board and breaking down film.

Field: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81f37537/Game-Changers-CBs-hit-the-field

Film: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81f375e5/Game-Changers-Cornered-in-the-film-room

[Jeff1220]

Anyone see the GameChangers episode featuring Aarong Williams and Prince Amukamara hit the field with Steve Mariucci and go through different aspects of being a corner and then hit the film room. I think Williams looked much better than Prince on the field. Prince didn't look like he was taking it very seriously though. Still, Williams has amazing body control in the air. He also looked really good on the white board and breaking down film.

Field: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81f37537/Game-Changers-CBs-hit-the-field

Film: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81f375e5/Game-Changers-Cornered-in-the-film-room


Maybe they should try him out at WR. He gets up there and just snatches that ball out of the air.