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Ed
05-09-2011, 04:13 PM
Khaled Elsayed of Pro Football Focus believes that Kyle Williams was the 3rd best player in the NFL last season. He rated the top 101 players from last year and I guess it's gained a lot of scrutiny because he listed Tom Brady at #33. Here is a link to the article. I'm not sure how he came up with the rankings, but I guess he does have some kind of system.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/06/the-top-101-players-of-2010-the-top-20/

I learned about this from Tim Graham's blog where he talks about it as it relates to the AFC East.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/28735/are-32-players-better-than-tom-brady

Kyle Williams was the only Bill to make the list.

Extremebillsfan247
05-09-2011, 04:20 PM
Khaled Elsayed of Pro Football Focus believes that Kyle Williams was the 3rd best player in the NFL last season. He rated the top 101 players from last year and I guess it's gained a lot of scrutiny because he listed Tom Brady at #33. Here is a link to the article. I'm not sure how he came up with the rankings, but I guess he does have some kind of system.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/06/the-top-101-players-of-2010-the-top-20/

I learned about this from Tim Graham's blog where he talks about it as it relates to the AFC East.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/28735/are-32-players-better-than-tom-brady

Kyle Williams was the only Bill to make the list.
I think Kyle Williams is a good football player who looked a lot bigger on a bad defense than he would have had he played for one of last years top defenses ala Pittsburgh, Chicago etc.

CleveSteve
05-09-2011, 04:40 PM
I find it odd that Kyle Williams is the 3rd-best player in the NFL when he anchors the league's worst run defense by almost 250 yards. That's two-and-a-half games worse than the next-worse running team.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/position/defense

Athyba Rubin had the most tackles by a DL (as the Browns' NT) in the NFL and he didn't even make the list.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/defense/sort/totalTackles/qualified/false/count/81

acehole
05-09-2011, 05:33 PM
I think Kyle Williams is a good football player who looked a lot bigger on a bad defense than he would have had he played for one of last years top defenses ala Pittsburgh, Chicago etc.


wELL YEA...BUT THE opposite is true...he looked good despite bad players around him and being double teamed is actually an endorsement to how good he is.

JCBills
05-09-2011, 06:03 PM
I find it odd that Kyle Williams is the 3rd-best player in the NFL when he anchors the league's worst run defense by almost 250 yards. That's two-and-a-half games worse than the next-worse running team.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/position/defense

Athyba Rubin had the most tackles by a DL (as the Browns' NT) in the NFL and he didn't even make the list.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/defense/sort/totalTackles/qualified/false/count/81

Takes 11 to make the unit work. One player can still dominate every play and the collective group can suck.

Night Train
05-09-2011, 06:49 PM
Khaled Elsayed needs a pee test.

Ickybaluky
05-09-2011, 09:12 PM
Athyba Rubin had the most tackles by a DL (as the Browns' NT) in the NFL and he didn't even make the list.

No Darrelle Revis either.

I think this guy must be Kyle Williams agent or something. Or Justin Smith's, who is the best defensive player in the NFL according to this analysis.

I don't know how this guy can even do this sort of analysis without the All-22 film. He basically came up with his metrics doing TV scouting. The TV cameras follow the ball, so you can't judge most of the players on every play, which they claim to do. Let alone what schemes and responsibilities the players are executing. He might as well have done it by reading the play-by-play.

I guess he is getting his attention, though.

stuckincincy
05-09-2011, 10:13 PM
No Darrelle Revis either.

I think this guy must be Kyle Williams agent or something. Or Justin Smith's, who is the best defensive player in the NFL according to this analysis.

I don't know how this guy can even do this sort of analysis without the All-22 film. He basically came up with his metrics doing TV scouting. The TV cameras follow the ball, so you can't judge most of the players on every play, which they claim to do. Let alone what schemes and responsibilities the players are executing. He might as well have done it by reading the play-by-play.

I guess he is getting his attention, though.


I wouldn't call Justin Smith the best defensive player, either. But I watched him play for 7 seasons with CIN. He was a complete DE for them - pocket pressure, sacks, but was notable against the run - messing up OL blocking, bouncing out to seal the edge etc.

Durable, too - he's missed only 1 game and 4 starts over a now ten-year career. And those were in his 2001 rookie season.

DrGraves
05-09-2011, 11:09 PM
i like kyle williams and im excited to see how he plays next to marcel but.... this guy is out of his ****ing mind

Ingtar33
05-10-2011, 08:21 AM
that website listed kyle williams the best defensive player of last season from what i'm reading.

Apparently he had more "stops" (plays for 0 or no gain) and qb "disruptions" (pressure causing a sack/fumble/incomplete pass) than every other DL in the league last year... and apparently there were only a few linebackers with more of either then him. (at least according to that website)

So maybe they're on to something. I do remember him destroying some teams last year (the game against Pittsburgh might have been the greatest game i've seen a Dlineman play for this team since we had Ted Washington or Bruce Smith)... in the middle of the season he was simply unblockable no matter how the bills lined up defensively.

Night Train
05-10-2011, 08:25 AM
that website listed kyle williams the best defensive player of last season from what i'm reading.

Apparently he had more "stops" (plays for 0 or no gain) and qb "disruptions" (pressure causing a sack/fumble/incomplete pass) than every other DL in the league last year... and apparently there were only a few linebackers with more of either then him. (at least according to that website)

So maybe they're on to something. I do remember him destroying some teams last year (the game against Pittsburgh might have been the greatest game i've seen a Dlineman play for this team since we had Ted Washington or Bruce Smith)... in the middle of the season he was si
mply unblockable no matter how the bills lined up defensively.

He needs a 4-3 look to be at his best as a 1 gap. Get the big DT next to him.

jamze132
05-10-2011, 10:14 AM
No offense to any Islamic fundamentalists out there, but.. nevermind....

Don't Panic
05-10-2011, 10:44 AM
I'm liking the option of our "Jumbo" DL package this year... Dareus, Troup and Williams. Put 4 quick LBs behind those 3 and we should be in pretty good shape. Too bad they'll only probably be able to have enough gas for half our snaps (as a unit) next year. Better than nothing... put them in on 1st and 2nd and force the O to pick its poison.

ChristopherWalken
05-10-2011, 11:16 AM
All of this type of publicity just means Kyle Williams will no longer be in Buffalo in 1 to 2 years.

Raptor
05-10-2011, 01:06 PM
As much as I like Williams, he's no where near the 3rd best player in the league last year. For the most part im skeptical of PFF and there stat analysis

Extremebillsfan247
05-10-2011, 03:55 PM
All of this type of publicity just means Kyle Williams will no longer be in Buffalo in 1 to 2 years.
Ah, the old fabled contract disputes. Gotta love em. lol