Poz doesn't miss very much

[Jeff1220]

Paul Posluszny
Sacks 3
Tackles 104
Assists 28
Missed Tackles 4
Attempts per miss 34.75

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/21/tackling-linebackers/

They ranked him as 7th best linebacker in this category.

On the flip side, they ranked Andra Davis as the worst:
Sacks 0
Tackles 17
Assists 12
Missed Tackles 4
Attempts per miss 8.25

[DraftBoy]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

The beauty of sabremetrics (or stats)...you can make them show you anything you want.

[BidsJr]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

This is a pretty useless sets of stats imho.

So what if guys rarely break his tackles?

I'm much more concerned about the guys that Poz never got to rather than how many broke free from him.

[justasportsfan]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

If the rb is running towards the guy thats blocking POz and Poz tackles him after 10 yards, he gets credit for the stat.

What I want to see are the stats where POz tackles for loss. I'm almost sure those stats wont be anything great.

Thats where Dareus comes in. He may command double teams and with Kyle in there too, there may be not much blockers going for Poz which will allow him to go upfield.

[DraftBoy]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

If the rb is running towards the guy thats blocking POz and Poz tackles him after 10 yards, he gets credit for the stat.

What I want to see are the stats where POz tackles for loss. I'm almost sure those stats wont be anything great.

Thats where Dareus comes in. He may command double teams and with Kyle in there too, there may be not much blockers going for Poz which will allow him to go upfield.

ESPN credits him with 4 stuffs last season. Not sure what that exactly entails.

[justasportsfan]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

ESPN credits him with 4 stuffs last season. Not sure what that exactly entails.

I always thought Poz would be a Zach Thomas for us.

[madness]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

Although his numbers were up, Poz looked out of place in his 1st year under Edwards. He struggled in coverage and was manhandled in the run game. I'd expect to see a more comfortable Poz out there this year.

[TigerJ]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

I think you're probably right about that, madness. In any case, I think the major knock on Poz is that he makes a lot of his tackles well upfield from the LOS. That's part of what allowed our opponents' running backs to have such gaudy yards per carry stats. Pos should be better in the 3-4 this season in part because of his own increased comfort level with the scheme and in part because of improved line play with the addition of Marcel Dareus and maturation of Troup and Carrington.

[WeAreArthurMoates]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

Unlike most, I still want Poz on this team. His not going to be an allstar or you're best ILBer but he's a fantastic clean up guy. A guy like Sheppard will stick is nose in on the run but if that guy breaks out of it, Poz is there to clean up after it.

[SaviorEdwards]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

I wouldn't miss (him) very much if he got cut. We have enough high motor slow white guys on this team

[SABURZFAN]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

Paul Posluszny
Sacks 3
Tackles 104
Assists 28
Missed Tackles 4
Attempts per miss 34.75

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/21/tackling-linebackers/

They ranked him as 7th best linebacker in this category.

how many of those tackles were 5-6 yards down the field?

[JCBills]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

If the rb is running towards the guy thats blocking POz and Poz tackles him after 10 yards, he gets credit for the stat.

What I want to see are the stats where POz tackles for loss. I'm almost sure those stats wont be anything great.

Thats where Dareus comes in. He may command double teams and with Kyle in there too, there may be not much blockers going for Poz which will allow him to go upfield.

I actually posted this a while back, might have been before I was on here so it was BBMB maybe. The stat is AVG yds allowed per tackle. It was either 08 or 09 where his AYAPT was just over 3, and in the top 5 in the league. Can't find the article because I'm no longer an insider.

Yes DB, single statistics mean nothing, but when compiled and assigned values, they carry weight.

[Philagape]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

I actually posted this a while back, might have been before I was on here so it was BBMB maybe. The stat is AVG yds allowed per tackle. It was either 08 or 09 where his AYAPT was just over 3, and in the top 5 in the league. Can't find the article because I'm no longer an insider.

Yes DB, single statistics mean nothing, but when compiled and assigned values, they carry weight.

Hey Mr. Metric Man, Football Outsiders says Poz had the third-worst "run stop rate" in the league:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2011/best-and-worst-run-stop-rates-2010

They're finally catching on.

[Night Train]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

how many of those tackles were 5-6 yards down the field?

Yup, just like London Fletcher. Impressive stats.. but of the drag down variety, after a good gain.

[DraftBoy]

Re: Poz doesn't miss very much

I actually posted this a while back, might have been before I was on here so it was BBMB maybe. The stat is AVG yds allowed per tackle. It was either 08 or 09 where his AYAPT was just over 3, and in the top 5 in the league. Can't find the article because I'm no longer an insider.

Yes DB, single statistics mean nothing, but when compiled and assigned values, they carry weight.

And how you assign that weight and interpret what your findings are is full of bias.

That's the issue with sabremetrics, most of these people are using very advanced statistical theories and then using their results as rules yet forgetting the one basic tenant of statistics. You can make it show you anything you want.

Stats are great for fantasy sports, but real life application is still something Ill argue about to the end.