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  • Mike
    Registered User
    • Jan 2009
    • 3805

    Pay Only For Talent

    Here is my theory on success. If you are going to pay for a player, make sure he is talented. Hopefully the NEW CBA will make it more enticing for teams like the Bills to pay for Talented players like Peppers vs players like Royal, Poz, Evens, etc...

    Hope cash to cap is done. Hope the Bills are not as cheep on acquiring real TALENT. Hope that there is a Cap Minimum so Ralph actually spends some $$$... Its a miracle that the Bills ever had success, Bill Polian was Ralph's Lotto ticket winner with incredible a million to one odds... that paid...
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  • SquishDaFish
    Lets GO BUFFALO!!
    • Jun 2005
    • 17034

    #2
    Re: Pay Only For Talent

    This team is already on the right path.Where have you been the last year or two? And Evans and Poz are good dont lump them in with Royal. Jeez some people have nothing better to do

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    • TheGhostofJimKelly
      Registered User
      • May 2003
      • 12459

      #3
      Re: Pay Only For Talent

      Are you saying to win in this league you need talented players? Brilliant!!!

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      • Mahdi
        Registered User
        • Mar 2004
        • 10585

        #4
        Re: Pay Only For Talent

        Originally posted by SquishDaFish
        This team is already on the right path.Where have you been the last year or two? And Evans and Poz are good dont lump them in with Royal. Jeez some people have nothing better to do
        I think the point here is that we want to pay 9mil a year to guys like Wayne, Andre Johnson and Fitzgerald rather than having to pay it to Evans who is not near those guys.

        And not pay Poz wages that rival what Johnathan Vilma is getting if they decide to resign him.

        Whatever the cap is going to be, we need to spend it on top notch talent. Not saying we have to bring in 10 FAs but the 2-3 or 4 that we bring in I would rather it be spent on a few high quality, expensive players instead of giving out a bunch of middle of the road contracts that bring us little return on investment.

        Plus this is a team well positioned to add a couple high priced FAs and fill out the rest of the positions with all the young guys we have that we have been collecting in the lower rounds and UDFA that have been successful add ons.

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        • jamze132
          Don’t hate…
          • Jun 2003
          • 29373

          #5
          Re: Pay Only For Talent

          I bet the CBA is voted 30-2 again. Guess who won't like it because he won't be able to save $30M a year by not spending on players.

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          • Extremebillsfan247
            Registered User
            • Sep 2008
            • 3142

            #6
            Re: Pay Only For Talent

            Originally posted by Mike
            Here is my theory on success. If you are going to pay for a player, make sure he is talented. Hopefully the NEW CBA will make it more enticing for teams like the Bills to pay for Talented players like Peppers vs players like Royal, Poz, Evens, etc...

            Hope cash to cap is done. Hope the Bills are not as cheep on acquiring real TALENT. Hope that there is a Cap Minimum so Ralph actually spends some $$$... Its a miracle that the Bills ever had success, Bill Polian was Ralph's Lotto ticket winner with incredible a million to one odds... that paid...
            Talent by itself is overrated. Every player in the league has talent or they wouldn't be professional football players. Building a team on talent alone turns you into the Bengals. We need to do better than that to succeed in the NFL. You need players with raw leadership skill, good moral character, and some attitude on top of that talent to succeed on this level. JMO
            Last edited by Extremebillsfan247; 06-23-2011, 09:55 AM.

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            • better days
              Registered User
              • Jan 2010
              • 22028

              #7
              Re: Pay Only For Talent

              Originally posted by Extremebillsfan247
              Talent by itself is overrated. Every player in the league has talent or they wouldn't be professional football players. Building a team on talent alone turns you into the Bengals. We need to do better than that to succeed in the NFL. You need players with raw leadership skill, good moral character, and some attitude on top of that talent to succeed on this level. JMO
              Agreed, but I would have used the Redskins rather than the Bengals as an example.

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              • Mike
                Registered User
                • Jan 2009
                • 3805

                #8
                Re: Pay Only For Talent

                Talent by itself is overrated. Every player in the league has talent or they wouldn't be professional football players. Building a team on talent alone turns you into the Bengals. We need to do better than that to succeed in the NFL. You need players with raw leadership skill, good moral character, and some attitude on top of that talent to succeed on this level. JMO
                It is often said that the real successful people in the life, the really talented ones have one thing in common. Their relentless determination to achieve their goals. Everything else is either attainted or learned or gained one way or another. So heart, determination, leadership skills, attitude these are all talents too.
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                • Extremebillsfan247
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 3142

                  #9
                  Re: Pay Only For Talent

                  Originally posted by Mike
                  It is often said that the real successful people in the life, the really talented ones have one thing in common. Their relentless determination to achieve their goals. Everything else is either attainted or learned or gained one way or another. So heart, determination, leadership skills, attitude these are all talents too.
                  Talent does not equal heart, determination, and leadership. Talent is an above average base skill and nothing more. All those other things are intangibles. Not everyone with talent has heart, determination, or natural leadership ability. If everyone with talent had the ability to lead, anyone could play QB, or lead a defense, and not everyone with talent can do that. If every talented player in the league had heart and determination, we wouldn't have players in the NFL like Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell, etc. Talent will only get you so far in a league built on it. You need more than that to succeed at that level. That is why players who come into the NFL thinking their talent is good enough to get them through usually fail.
                  Last edited by Extremebillsfan247; 06-29-2011, 02:46 AM.

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                  • BertSquirtgum
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • May 2009
                    • 13379

                    #10
                    Re: Pay Only For Talent

                    Originally posted by Mike
                    Here is my theory on success. If you are going to pay for a player, make sure he is talented. Hopefully the NEW CBA will make it more enticing for teams like the Bills to pay for Talented players like Peppers vs players like Royal, Poz, Evens, etc...

                    Hope cash to cap is done. Hope the Bills are not as cheep on acquiring real TALENT. Hope that there is a Cap Minimum so Ralph actually spends some $$$... Its a miracle that the Bills ever had success, Bill Polian was Ralph's Lotto ticket winner with incredible a million to one odds... that paid...
                    this post is worse than the smell of regurgitation

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                    • Mike
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 3805

                      #11
                      Re: Pay Only For Talent

                      Talent does not equal heart, determination, and leadership. Talent is an above average base skill and nothing more. All those other things are intangibles. Not everyone with talent has heart, determination, or natural leadership ability. If everyone with talent had the ability to lead, anyone could play QB, or lead a defense, and not everyone with talent can do that. If every talented player in the league had heart and determination, we wouldn't have players in the NFL like Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell, etc. Talent will only get you so far in a league built on it. You need more than that to succeed at that level. That is why players who come into the NFL thinking their talent is good enough to get them through usually fail.
                      I think you've missed my point completely. Athletic talent is not the only talent that exist in the world or the NFL. Leadership is also a talent, which some have and others don't. Character is a talent as well. I know your probably only to thinking of talent in terms of athletic but it expresses itself in a multitude of areanas.

                      Determination to succeed is often to be considered one of the most precious and rare talents of all. This talent can overcome others which is evident in some of the greatest players. Rice was not the most talented wr to play the game but he was the best. In fact he was widely considered slow for his position. Montana didt have the strongest arm but he too was one if the best. Both guys had unbeatable work ethic and determination to succeed and surpassed guys that were more athletic.
                      Last edited by Mike; 06-30-2011, 02:39 AM.
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                      • Mike
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3805

                        #12
                        Re: Pay Only For Talent

                        this post is worse than the smell of regurgitation
                        Where have you been thus whole time? NFL is full of regulations. The whole CBA is a form of regulation. If there was no regulation the NFL would be far more like baseball & the Bills would be as hopeless as the Pirates.
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                        • better days
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 22028

                          #13
                          Re: Pay Only For Talent

                          Originally posted by Mike
                          I think you've missed my point completely. Athletic talent is not the only talent that exist in the world or the NFL. Leadership is also a talent, which some have and others don't. Character is a talent as well. I know your probably only to thinking of talent in terms of athletic but it expresses itself in a multitude of areanas.

                          Determination to succeed is often to be considered one of the most precious and rare talents of all. This talent can overcome others which is evident in some of the greatest players. Rice was not the most talented wr to play the game but he was the best. In fact he was widely considered slow for his position. Montana didt have the strongest arm but he too was one if the best. Both guys had unbeatable work ethic and determination to succeed and surpassed guys that were more athletic.
                          Talent is a God given gift. You can't teach speed or hand eye coordination. Leadership, Determination & Character can be taught & learned & therefore are not talents.

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                          • Mike
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 3805

                            #14
                            Re: Pay Only For Talent

                            Talent is a God given gift. You can't teach speed or hand eye coordination. Leadership, Determination & Character can be taught & learned & therefore are not talents.
                            I see, if it CAN NOT be taught or learned then it can not be improved. If it could be improved that means some one who does not have a talent can improve themselves to have it. So in your wild world where a Talent can not be Taught, Learned or Improved Why in The Word Do Professional Athletes and other talented individuals Work on Improving their talents? What you said makes Zero cense. If it can not be taught or learned or improved than why do these super fast and slow guys have coaches who show them how to become faster for the 40 yard dash?
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                            • Mike
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 3805

                              #15
                              Re: Pay Only For Talent

                              Talent is a God given gift. You can't teach speed or hand eye coordination. Leadership, Determination & Character can be taught & learned & therefore are not talents.
                              It Occurs to me that You Have No Clue What Talent is so here is the Definition:

                              talent |ˈtalənt|
                              noun
                              1 natural aptitude or skill : he possesses more talent than any other player | she displayed a talent for garden design.
                              • people possessing such aptitude or skill : I signed all the talent in Rome | Simon is a talent to watch.
                              • informal people regarded as sexually attractive or as prospective sexual partners : most Saturday nights I have this urge to go on the hunt for new talent.
                              2 a former weight and unit of currency, used esp. by the ancient Romans and Greeks.
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