Official July 1 Free Agency thread - Sabres news

[Dr. Lecter]

Let's keep it in one thread.

From today's New York Post:


If it's truly going to take an eight- or nine-year front-loaded deal worth between $55-60 million to sign Richards -- Buffalo is believed preparing an offer even larger in scope -- and if Richards is going to need a match to become a Ranger, Sather will hold on to his cash for a later day and another option.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/rangers_may_go_rags_to_richards_lJNUr9K6QVPNsbPyrovu4I#ixzz1QquQQOrV

[BlackMetalNinja]

Let's keep it in one thread.

From today's New York Post:



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/rangers_may_go_rags_to_richards_lJNUr9K6QVPNsbPyrovu4I#ixzz1QquQQOrVI was going to suggest a separate thread for Sabres discussion and one for other NHL signings...

[Dr. Lecter]

I was going to suggest a separate thread for Sabres discussion and one for other NHL signings...
Sounds good.

This one is for the Sabres

[Dr. Lecter]

Buffalo – With owner Terry Pegula’ unleashing his resources, free agency will be a more pleasant experience for GM Darcy Regier, who lost a number of important players (Henrik Tallinder, Toni Lydman, Chris Drury, Daniel Briere) to the previous owner’s thrifty practices. Regier has spoken with the agents for two of his UFA’s – center Tim Connolly and gritty forward Cody McCormick – but if they can’t reach an agreeable number, they may not be back. And it appears that Mike Grier and Rob Niedermayer won’t return, so there are spots up front to fill. Potential rookies Zack Kassian and Luke Adams will likely get shots in training camp and there are indications that Drury would like to return and he could be a bargain. Some speculate the Sabres will be a player in the Brad Richards hunt, but, failing that, getting a healthy Derek Roy back will be like a signing a major top line free agent for a team that played surprisingly well in his absence. UPDATE: The Sabres have now signed pending UFA defenseman Christian Ehrhoff to a long-term deal after acquiring his rights from the Islanders for a fourth round pick; the Isles had earlier gotten Ehrhoff’s rights from the Canucks for a fourth round pick.

http://nhl-red-light.si.com/2011/06/29/what-eastern-teams-need-in-free-agency/?xid=cnnbin&hpt=hp_bn10

Interesting about Drury. If he is cheap (i.e. 1.5 million or less) and the knee will hold up he can be a #3 guy

[Mr. Pink]

If the Sabres land Richards they'll be in the mix of the top 3 teams in the Eastern Conference and will have a legitimate shot at making a run for the Cup.

Not being a Sabres fan it doesn't matter to me if he signs here or not but for all you guys I hope he does.

Some real excitement and a legitimate Cup run would go a long way for the city.

[DraftBoy]

I heard last night about the Sabres 8-10 year front loaded offer. Apparently nobody though Buffalo was going to make that kind of an offer and its made Richards put the brakes on going straight to the Rangers.

Not sure of the Rangers cap situation, can they match that kind of an offer?

[DrGraves]

If the Sabres land Richards they'll be in the mix of the top 3 teams in the Eastern Conference and will have a legitimate shot at making a run for the Cup.

Not being a Sabres fan it doesn't matter to me if he signs here or not but for all you guys I hope he does.

Some real excitement and a legitimate Cup run would go a long way for the city.

im not ready to proclaim anything yet but yes it should be a much more competitive club already... clearly we are no boston, philly, washington, pittsburgh... at least yet.

[tampabay25690]

I have been trying to get info the past day or 2....
Very hush hush right now.........

Richards would be great but thats a boat load of cash.....
Would be nice to see him on the same line as Vanek.....

[Jan Reimers]

im not ready to proclaim anything yet but yes it should be a much more competitive club already... clearly we are no boston, philly, washington, pittsburgh... at least yet.
But with the 2 defensemen we have just signed, and a couple of good prospects ready to join the big club, I think we're only a first line center away from being in the mix with those teams.

[The King]

Good Luck today guys, you should have an exciting day.

I remember it like it was yesterday when the B's signed both Chara and Savard at the beginning of FA. It was mind blowing.

[OpIv37]

Good Luck today guys, you should have an exciting day.

I remember it like it was yesterday when the B's signed both Chara and Savard at the beginning of FA. It was mind blowing.

and it took a few years, but it paid off for you guys.

I seriously hope that's what happens to us....

[CuseJetsFan83]

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[THATHURMANATOR]

If the Sabres land Richards they'll be in the mix of the top 3 teams in the Eastern Conference and will have a legitimate shot at making a run for the Cup.

Not being a Sabres fan it doesn't matter to me if he signs here or not but for all you guys I hope he does.

Some real excitement and a legitimate Cup run would go a long way for the city.
How does a Cleveland boy like yourself have the Penguins as your team? Isnt it Sac religious to partner with DA BURGH?

[Mr. Pink]

How does a Cleveland boy like yourself have the Penguins as your team? Isnt it Sac religious to partner with DA BURGH?


Cleveland Lumberjacks were the IHL affiliate of the Pens.

I got to watch Petr Sykora, Martin Straka, Markus Naslund among others all play at Richfield Coliseum and then Gund Arena/Quicken Loans.

[Mski]

Shae Webber is going to team elected arbitration.... he is not eligible for an offer sheet :down:

[hydro]

Shae Webber is going to team elected arbitration.... he is not eligible for an offer sheet :down:

:rofl: I think we are set on D for a while.....

[X-Era]

% chance we land Richards? Give me your take.

I'm saying 75%. I think we make the highest bid and it puts the race between us and the Rangers. I leave a 25% chance that Richards takes less money to go to NYC and be with his ex coach. To me that's the only way, I think the teams are pretty equal now talent wise.

[CuseJetsFan83]

% chance we land Richards? Give me your take.

I'm saying 75%. I think we make the highest bid and it puts the race between us and the Rangers. I leave a 25% chance that Richards takes less money to go to NYC and be with his ex coach. To me that's the only way, I think the teams are pretty equal now talent wise.

60% buffalo
30% NYR
5% toronto
5% philly

[Mski]

:rofl: I think we are set on D for a while..... there's always room for improvement.... that would make us the NHL equivalent of the ravens or steelers

[SkateZilla]

60% buffalo
30% NYR
5% toronto
5% philly

Richards wants:

A. Around 55Mill/8Yrs,
B. Small Market Club
C. Stable Ownership
D. Cup Contender
E. Young Team

So:
Buffalo 80%, A.B.C.D.E
NYR 10%, A.C.E.
Toronto 5%, A.E.
Philly 5%, D.E.

[Mski]

just throwing it out there but, Marek Svatos is a UFA, i know he's a 2nd teir guy, but i wouldnt hate him on our second line

also Clarke MacArthur is available to come back too... always liked him

[THATHURMANATOR]

Don't want either MSKI.

[Mr. Pink]

just throwing it out there but, Marek Svatos is a UFA, i know he's a 2nd teir guy, but i wouldnt hate him on our second line

also Clarke MacArthur is available to come back too... always liked him


Svatos = small and injury prone. Plus ever since his rookie campaign his numbers have tailed off a ton. Pass.

[OpIv37]

Richards wants:

A. Around 55Mill/8Yrs,
B. Small Market Club
C. Stable Ownership
D. Cup Contender
E. Young Team

So:
Buffalo 80%, A.B.C.D.E
NYR 10%, A.C.E.
Toronto 5%, A.E.
Philly 5%, D.E.

how are the Sabres a Cup contender? We still have no true center and lack scoring. The improvements on D will help, but that's not enough to truly make us a contender on their own.

[Dr. Lecter]

how are the Sabres a Cup contender? We still have no true center and lack scoring. The improvements on D will help, but that's not enough to truly make us a contender on their own.
Richards is the true center. He fills in that piece.
And they are not lacking scoring. They were in the top 10 of the NHL last year.

[Philagape]

This is what he means:

"My goal is to win the Stanley Cup, and after the offer I received from Buffalo, I believe this is the best place to make it happen."

-- Christian Ehrhoff

[The King]

and it took a few years, but it paid off for you guys.

I seriously hope that's what happens to us.... It would be great to see you guys win a cup, as fans you deserve it.

[CuseJetsFan83]

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Too many teams need to reach the floor so expect Tim Connolly to get stupid money today as the clear No. 2 UFA C on the market.

[SkateZilla]

This is what he means:

"My goal is to win the Stanley Cup, and after the offer I received from Buffalo, I believe this is the best place to make it happen."

-- Christian Ehrhoff

Can we sell that to Richards?

[trapezeus]

Where are the typical Billszone posts like, I saw Richards at the buffalo airport and my cousin the limo driver tok him to Hsbc? This free agency feels weird.

[BlackMetalNinja]

If Connolly is the clear #2 available center, it says a lot about how lousy this free agent class is.

[hydro]

Where are the typical Billszone posts like, I saw Richards at the buffalo airport and my cousin the limo driver tok him to Hsbc? This free agency feels weird.

Because the NHL isn't like that. They said Brad Richards is with his agent in Mississauga, ON.

[BlackMetalNinja]

Where are the typical Billszone posts like, I saw Richards at the buffalo airport and my cousin the limo driver tok him to Hsbc? This free agency feels weird.
The hockey fans on this board are mostly not ******ed...

[CuseJetsFan83]

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Here is TSN's pre-noon handicap on Brad Richards. 1. NYR 2. LA 3. Tor 4. TB 5. Mon 6. Buff 7. Phi

[Mski]

Where are the typical Billszone posts like, I saw Richards at the buffalo airport and my cousin the limo driver tok him to Hsbc? This free agency feels weird.they've been too busy calling the local radio station saying they're Richard's cousins neighbor, and he's defniately going to the NYR

[X-Era]

Can we sell that to Richards?Make the biggest offer and then compare NY with us head to head... I like how we look in that comparison:

Solid coaching, great goalie, owner who is willing to spend, solid defense (with Regher and Ehrhoff) great young guys, great prospects...

Other than Torterella, why would Richards pick NYR?

[CuseJetsFan83]

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[X-Era]

tsnjamesduthie (http://twitter.com/#%21/tsnjamesduthie) james duthie



Here is TSN's pre-noon handicap on Brad Richards. 1. NYR 2. LA 3. Tor 4. TB 5. Mon 6. Buff 7. PhiWonder what the handicaps would have been on Regher or Ehrhoff...

I'm not putting much faith in those assessments.

Make sure your offer is the biggest and we are instantly top 2.

[Mski]

Make the biggest offer and then compare NY with us head to head... I like how we look in that comparison:

Solid coaching, great goalie, owner who is willing to spend, solid defense (with Regher and Ehrhoff) great young guys, great prospects...

Other than Torterella, why would Richards pick NYR?MSG is getting an even bigger overhaul than HSBC??? :idunno:

/sacrasm

[CuseJetsFan83]

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[The King]

This is what he means:

"My goal is to win the Stanley Cup, and after the offer I received from Buffalo, I believe this is the best place to make it happen."

-- Christian Ehrhoff

WTF?

He just left a team competing for the cup. He can say he wants to help bring a cup to Buffalo but it's clearly not the best place to make it happen

[Mski]

Brad May reported McCormik deal, who also has the same agent as Richards :hmm:

[Philagape]

The Richards will get Richards
"Richards to Buffalo did not seem likely, or plausible to myself and many others UNTIL Mr. Pegula constructed Erhoff's front-loaded contract. 29 other NHL teams stand in awe of Pegula's financial fortitude and sense of urgency to attract and sign the best of the best players. A source told me that Richards places a high premium on a team's goaltending, as he did on Khabibulin in Tampa's Cup winning year in '04. I'm told that Richards holds Hank Lundqvist and Ryan Miller in high regard. Toronto's Reimer has not built a winning resume yet. Leafs will be a long shot. Stay tuned...."
- GARTH

[SkateZilla]

they are too busy hit refresh on twitter looking for "xxx was signed by xxx"

[Michael82]

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#Sabres (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Sabres) news. @maydayhockey (http://twitter.com/maydayhockey) says look for Cody Mccormick to sign a new 3 year deal worth 3.6M
Nice! I was hoping they would keep McCormick. He was the unsung hero, voted on by the whole team.

[CuseJetsFan83]

Nice! I was hoping they would keep McCormick. He was the unsung hero, voted on by the whole team.

was that the tendered QO?

[Michael82]

So it's going to come down to the Sabres vs the Rangers...who can spend the most and who is more attractive. Hmmm....I'm getting excited!!!

[Michael82]

was that the tendered QO?
Nope. He originally signed a 1-year qualifying offer. Now they just locked him up for 3-years. :bf1:

[X-Era]

So it's going to come down to the Sabres vs the Rangers...who can spend the most and who is more attractive. Hmmm....I'm getting excited!!!I really like our chances... What do you think it might be? I think it's 75% chance we land him.

[CuseJetsFan83]

Nope. He originally signed a 1-year qualifying offer. Now they just locked him up for 3-years. :bf1:

thats a very generous hometown discount.... i'll take it!

[SkateZilla]

Make the biggest offer and then compare NY with us head to head... I like how we look in that comparison:

Solid coaching, great goalie, owner who is willing to spend, solid defense (with Regher and Ehrhoff) great young guys, great prospects...

Other than Torterella, why would Richards pick NYR?

Owner willing to sling out LARGE Signing Bonus' and fly w/ wife and coach to come meet you

[CuseJetsFan83]

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WGR has confirmed that Cody McCormick has signed a 3 year $3.6 million contract to remain with the Sabres! Rob Ray joins our coverage NEXT!

and on that note.. im off to work.... ill be checking my twitter/fb often

*heres to hoping*

[clumping platelets]

At least that prevents the resigning of Connolly :pray:

[SkateZilla]

1.2 Mill Cap hit,

Bye Bye Koats, See ya in rochester...

[X-Era]

Owner willing to sling out LARGE Signing Bonus' and fly w/ wife and coach to come meet youI think you're arguing that the Sabres would win... Terry would absolutely go to meet him.

[Ebenezer]

According to capgeek.com the Sabres now have the 2nd largest payroll in the league.

[trapezeus]

Because the NHL isn't like that. They said Brad Richards is with his agent in Mississauga, ON.
YOu say thatlike the rumor mongers care. :)

I stillhave my fingers crossed on a ******ed stamkos deal. Let me have it for a few more minutes before the idea is totally killed.

[X-Era]

According to capgeek.com the Sabres now have the 2nd largest payroll in the league.But still have enough cap space for Richards.

[Michael82]

I really like our chances... What do you think it might be? I think it's 75% chance we land him.
I was thinking about 70-75%. It depends on how big of an issue the coach is. He really liked playing for the Rangers coach. I have a feeling that the big contract to Ehrhoff is definitely helping sway him towards strongly considering the Sabres. And we know that Pegula, his wife and Lindy Ruff will most likely be at his house begging him to come, as of noon today. Plus, Pegula could sell 100,000 snow plows to Arizona. I have a feeling that he could easily sell the city of Buffalo to Richards.

[Michael82]

WGR550 (http://twitter.com/#%21/WGR550) WGR 550



WGR has confirmed that Cody McCormick has signed a 3 year $3.6 million contract to remain with the Sabres! Rob Ray joins our coverage NEXT!

and on that note.. im off to work.... ill be checking my twitter/fb often

*heres to hoping*
Awesome news! I love McCormick! I might get his jersey now.... :clap:

[Ebenezer]

Montador got $11M for four years from Chicago...O.M.G. Ehrhoff looks even better, again.

[The King]

I'd be willing to bet some ZBs the Sabres dont land Richards

[ddaryl]

With the moves the Sabre's are making, the fact that Pegula is putting his money where his mouth is... I think We're #1 in regards to all coveted FA's right now.

Wow how good does it feel to be able to post that statement and know its true

[X-Era]

I was thinking about 70-75%. It depends on how big of an issue the coach is. He really liked playing for the Rangers coach. I have a feeling that the big contract to Ehrhoff is definitely helping sway him towards strongly considering the Sabres. And we know that Pegula, his wife and Lindy Ruff will most likely be at his house begging him to come, as of noon today. Plus, Pegula could sell 100,000 snow plows to Arizona. I have a feeling that he could easily sell the city of Buffalo to Richards.And again, no one is really making a strong argument that the Rangers are a better option. I can't see what the significant benefit would be to go there vs. Buff.

[The King]

With the moves the Sabre's are making, the fact that Pegula is putting his money where his mouth is... I think We're #1 in regards to all coveted FA's right now.

Wow how good does it feel to be able to post that statement and know its true

:rofl:

[Ebenezer]

I'd be willing to bet some ZBs the Sabres dont land Richards
I'm excited but I have little hope of Richards coming here.

[SkateZilla]

And again, no one is really making a strong argument that the Rangers are a better option. I can't see what the significant benefit would be to go there vs. Buff.

Ermm, I cant think of one.

[Michael82]

Montador got $11M for four years from Chicago...O.M.G. Ehrhoff looks even better, again.
$11 million for Montador? That's crazy!

[Dr. Lecter]

WTF?????

Why have they not signed Richards yet???????

Dacry sucks!!! So does Pegula!!

[X-Era]

WTF?????

Why have they not signed Richards yet???????

Dacry sucks!!! So does Pegula!!Apparently Pegula and Co. are at Miss. to meet with Richards and his agent

[BlackMetalNinja]

TSN has Buffalo ranked 6th of 7 major candidates in terms of most likely to land Richards

[Mski]

Apparently Pegula and Co. are at Miss. to meet with Richards and his agentwas there any doubt that they wouldnt be? hopefully they're first in line

[Ebenezer]

Apparently Pegula and Co. are at Miss. to meet with Richards and his agent
WGR is now reporting that TSN is reporting they are with Richards' agent.

[X-Era]

TSN has Buffalo ranked 6th of 7 major candidates in terms of most likely to land RichardsThat list makes no sense. NY is the only ranking that makes any sense. No way Toronto is above us if the money is the same, their goalie situation is not as good.

[SkateZilla]

Buy Him some Lunch, Give him some $$$$, and a pen.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I won't be surprised if we don't get him but I love that we are in the mix.

[SkateZilla]

which feeds are you following? (link?)

[Ebenezer]

which feeds are you following? (link?)
Live on the radio. McCormick just called the station to confirm that he has signed.

[X-Era]

which feeds are you following? (link?)Listening to WGR, watching NHL Network, and have about 8 tabs open.

[SkateZilla]

LA Kings People w/ Richards Agent now.

[The King]

DarrenDreger:
as per @GinoRedaTSN (http://twitter.com/%40GinoRedaTSN), LA Kings have arrived at Newport offices to meet with Brad Richards and agent Pat Morris. [via Twitter]

[BlackMetalNinja]

Watching TSN feed on NHL network currently. Fire up the laptop once I put my daughter down for a nap.

[Ebenezer]

I have to leave for a 1PM meeting...I am going to miss a lot.

[SkateZilla]

well, im using my CCTV remote access capabilites to watch Richards' agent's office security cameras :p

[The King]

Watching TSN feed on NHL network currently. Fire up the laptop once I put my daughter down for a nap.ditto

[X-Era]

DarrenDreger:
as per @GinoRedaTSN (http://twitter.com/%40GinoRedaTSN), LA Kings have arrived at Newport offices to meet with Brad Richards and agent Pat Morris. [via Twitter]Kings also don't have as good of goaltending as us.

[Philagape]

TSN reports Terry Pegula will meet with Brad Richards today.

[SkateZilla]

leafs people in "lobby/waiting room" of richards' agent

[Dr. Lecter]

Kings also don't have as good of goaltending as us.
Jonathan Quick is pretty good

[X-Era]

Jonathan Quick is pretty goodNot Ryan Miller good.

[SkateZilla]

Jonathan Quick is pretty good

yeah he's kinda quick :p :respect:

[Mr. Pink]

Richards is either gonna end up a Ranger, Sabre or Leaf. It wouldn't surprise me if he mulls the offers from each team and doesn't decide til either later tonight or tomorrow to decide where he's gonna play.

I think all 3 teams have a legitimate shot at him with a slight edge to NY due to his former coach being there. All 3 will give him the money he wants.

[SkateZilla]

Richards is either gonna end up a Ranger, Sabre or Leaf. It wouldn't surprise me if he mulls the offers from each team and doesn't decide til either later tonight or tomorrow to decide where he's gonna play.

I think all 3 teams have a legitimate shot at him with a slight edge to NY due to his former coach being there. All 3 will give him the money he wants.

They arleady said his plan was to meet with all GMs/look over all deals, narrow them down based on the criteria he already put out, sleep on it, then make a final decision by July 4th.

[X-Era]

Richards is either gonna end up a Ranger, Sabre or Leaf. It wouldn't surprise me if he mulls the offers from each team and doesn't decide til either later tonight or tomorrow to decide where he's gonna play.

I think all 3 teams have a legitimate shot at him with a slight edge to NY due to his former coach being there. All 3 will give him the money he wants.I agree on the top 3. I think we offer more than anyone else and that may push him to us.

[Michael82]

Here's the TSN video feed.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=616&id=120032&navid=mod-rr-headlines

[SkateZilla]

there is now a line of about 8 or 9 people in suits outside the agents office...... all of them with folders in their hand.

[Mr. Pink]

They arleady said his plan was to meet with all GMs/look over all deals, narrow them down based on the criteria he already put out, sleep on it, then make a final decision by July 4th.


The bad part of that is the teams that lose out on him who think they do have a legit shot at bringing him in are not gonna get any FA Center upgrade. And even worse there are no premier centers who are gonna be eligible for FA next season.

[OpIv37]

They arleady said his plan was to meet with all GMs/look over all deals, narrow them down based on the criteria he already put out, sleep on it, then make a final decision by July 4th.

that's horse ****.

I realize it's a huge decision for him, but he's going to make ridiculous money wherever he goes, and he's holding teams hostage by doing this.

[SkateZilla]

he already said what type of club he wants to play for.

thats not gonna stop everyone from trying to sign him, im pretty sure clubs that dont fit what he wants will be tossed in a separate pile.

[X-Era]

that's horse ****.

I realize it's a huge decision for him, but he's going to make ridiculous money wherever he goes, and he's holding teams hostage by doing this.I think we will know tonight. He's known this was coming, he knows what he does and doesn't want. The contract is really what isn't a known and even with that he probably has an idea.

[Dr. Lecter]

that's horse ****.

I realize it's a huge decision for him, but he's going to make ridiculous money wherever he goes, and he's holding teams hostage by doing this.
I think he is actually supposed to decide tonight or tomorrow.

[OpIv37]

I think we will know tonight. He's known this was coming, he knows what he does and doesn't want. The contract is really what isn't a known and even with that he probably has an idea.

I hope so.

If we can't get Richards, I don't want to miss a chance to sign Talbot or some other center because we were waiting for Richards to respond.

[Mski]

i'd bet he signs with someone by the end of the day.... just like drury and briere did a few years ago... take the time to see whats out there, and make your move, he's likely already got his mind made up, just gonna wait to see if someone changes it for him

[OpIv37]

On a non-Brad Richards note, it's been FA for an hour and no one has signed Tim Connolly yet....

I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that.

[Mski]

DarrenDreger:
RT @GMillerTSN (http://twitter.com/%40GMillerTSN): LA Kings going all out for Brad Richards. CEO Tim Leiweke, Pres. and GM Dean Lombardi and the coaches going in person

[Mski]

On a non-Brad Richards note, it's been FA for an hour and no one has signed Tim Connolly yet....

I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that. tsn was rumoring that the stars have been in contact with him, hopefuly we swap centers with them

[X-Era]

DarrenDreger:
RT @GMillerTSN (http://twitter.com/%40GMillerTSN): LA Kings going all out for Brad Richards. CEO Tim Leiweke, Pres. and GM Dean Lombardi and the coaches going in personOutside looking in... Sabres just need to make the biggest offer.

[SkateZilla]

Apparently they are offing coffe and donuts, a delivery driver just handed off 2 donut boxes and 2 "to go" coffee containers to the secretary..

[psubills62]

Seems to me teams should realize that there are 8-9 suitors for Richards and only one Brad Richards. Even if he chose right away, there will be 7-8 teams left in the dust. Every team should have a plan if they don't happen to sign him (whether or not that plan includes simply sitting tight).

I would also think that the lower-level C's available know that they'll be pursued after Richards signs. Thus, it makes sense for them to wait until after Richards selects a team.

[BlackMetalNinja]

I love TSN... 9 guys and 3 desks set up in one studio, plus reporters on location with several teams. Meanwhile ESPN will probably gave a 3 minute segment buried in baseball highlights on Sportscenter, where Melrose flip flops 7 times.

[ddaryl]

It's a done deal IMO.. No man can resist the smooth talking and determination of our new Owner.. (I have to admit this might be my 1st man-crush)

We have the goaltender, we majorily upgraded our D, we have a player in Vanek who is a major compliment to Richards.

It's over with.. just go ahead and pop the champagne cork.. Resistance would be futile

[BertSquirtgum]

It's a done deal IMO.. No man can resist the smooth talking and determination of our new Owner.. (I have to admit this might be my 1st man-crush)

We have the goaltender, we majorily upgraded our D, we have a player in Vanek who is a major compliment to Richards.

It's over with.. just go ahead and pop the champagne cork.. Resistance would be futile

i really hope you're right

[OpIv37]

tsn was rumoring that the stars have been in contact with him, hopefuly we swap centers with them

If that happens then Darcy is officially a genius.

[ddaryl]

i really hope you're right

me too !

[Mr. Pink]

Erhoff being interviewed on GR right now, if you didn't know and would like to hear.

[clumping platelets]

Mancari signed with Nucks

[Philagape]

TSN reports Terry Pegula will meet with Brad Richards today.

WGR says the meeting has happened

[X-Era]

WGR says the meeting has happenedTSN, from out front of that office said Pegula will meet with him later.

[Dr. Lecter]

It has not happened yet. Pegula is not in Ontario - yet

[X-Era]

Could be bad news:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/
Rangers to Get Chance to Match on Richardshttp://cdn.hockeybuzz.com/images/newicon.gif Per Larry Brooks, Rangers to get Chance to Match on Richards at End of Day
Source: Larry Brooks (twitter)

If true, Richards is showing his cards on where he prefers.

[clumping platelets]

I just saw Richards at Mighty Taco on Walden :nod:

[clumping platelets]

Could be bad news:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/
Rangers to Get Chance to Match on Richardshttp://cdn.hockeybuzz.com/images/newicon.gif Per Larry Brooks, Rangers to get Chance to Match on Richards at End of Day
Source: Larry Brooks (twitter)

If true, Richards is showing his cards on where he prefers.


Paul Hamilton was ripping Brooks this morning and basically called him totally unreliable. That he will constantly twist the story so he can claim he was right. Kinda like Eklund

[Dr. Lecter]

Could be bad news:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/
Rangers to Get Chance to Match on Richardshttp://cdn.hockeybuzz.com/images/newicon.gif Per Larry Brooks, Rangers to get Chance to Match on Richards at End of Day
Source: Larry Brooks (twitter)

If true, Richards is showing his cards on where he prefers.
FWIW - Brooks is worthless. He is one step ahead of Eklund

[X-Era]

FWIW - Brooks is worthless. He is one step ahead of EklundThe concept seems logical. If Richards came into this leaning NYR... which we all know makes sense, why not go back to them at the end of the day and ask for them to beat the best offer?

To me, the Sabres best shot is to make the biggest offer which I also think is likely. With the biggest money on the table and everything we have to offer, I think it's down to us and the Rangers.

[DraftBoy]

For the record, I dont ever want to hear anybody else tell me Twitter is stupid or pointless. Look at what it has done for us today alone.

[BertSquirtgum]

twitter sucks

[Michael82]

It has not happened yet. Pegula is not in Ontario - yet
Why is that? He should have been first in time to talk to Richards. :mad:


:jk: :calm:

[OpIv37]

For the record, I dont ever want to hear anybody else tell me Twitter is stupid or pointless. Look at what it has done for us today alone.

it's stupid and pointless. All the major sports sites have NHL FA trackers.

[Dr. Lecter]

For the record, I dont ever want to hear anybody else tell me Twitter is stupid or pointless. Look at what it has done for us today alone.
Yeah, it gave us inaccurate info!!

[Philagape]

If someone can fake another's account, it's stupid and pointless.

Of course, that's never stopped us before .......

[hydro]

If someone can fake another's account, it's stupid and pointless.

Of course, that's never stopped us before .......
People blaming twitter for fake accounts is like blaming guns for killing. If people didn't retweet and give credence to fake accounts that have hardly any followers nobody would see the stupid incorrect info.

Mike Harrington bit hard and all of his followers did too. But he is ultimately at fault.

[OpIv37]

People blaming twitter for fake accounts is like blaming guns for killing. If people didn't retweet and give credence to fake accounts that have hardly any followers nobody would see the stupid incorrect info.

Mike Harrington bit hard and all of his followers did too. But he is ultimately at fault.

that's the problem- there is no vetting on twitter. That's why I rely on the FA trackers from legitimate sports sites that at least have some semblance of journalistic integrity.

Twitter is part of the reason why we have this mentality that being first is more important than being correct.

[Philagape]

People blaming twitter for fake accounts is like blaming guns for killing. If people didn't retweet and give credence to fake accounts that have hardly any followers nobody would see the stupid incorrect info.

Mike Harrington bit hard and all of his followers did too. But he is ultimately at fault.

Nobody's BLAMING twitter. Just pointing out its risks

[Mski]

RealKyper:
Hearing rumblings #NHL teams presenting to Brad Richards are pitching 12.8M max offer in years 1 and 2. Crazy money out there.

[Mski]

Jessie Pegula just tweeted "so no richards"

[SkateZilla]

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

[X-Era]

Now it's been deleted?

[X-Era]

Now a retraction:

JLPegula (http://twitter.com/#%21/JLPegula) Jessie Pegula

Sorry guys I sat on my phone driving to a doctors appointment! I'm not at the arena so I don't know anything.

Apparently she has some skill typing with her ass cheeks.

[Mski]

my guess what tweeting while driving, set it down mid tweet to ya know drive and sent it accidentaly

[SkateZilla]

She meant to say "So No Richards.... for me..." because she had to leave the area.

Aparently she was typing, then the green light came on and she set the phone down and her ass cheek hit the enter button...

Im gonna copyright these now "Pocket Tweet", "Ass Tweet", "Buttcheek Tweet"

[Crisis]

you guys are actually getting worked up over the tweets of a teenage girl

[X-Era]

you guys are actually getting worked up over the tweets of a teenage girlIs there no interest in what the Sabres owners daughter might say?

[Mski]

has anyone mentioned Mancari signed with vancouver 1 yr $525k

[hydro]

you guys are actually getting worked up over the tweets of a teenage girl

More annoying than frivolous tweets, to me, is the yuppies that eat it up then complain about it later.

[SkateZilla]

Is there no interest in what the Sabres owners daughter might say?

other than "Skate Zilla will you go out with me?" i dont care :p, then again i dont care about that either...

[Crisis]

Is there no interest in what the Sabres owners daughter might say?

how involved is your daughter in your business decisions?

[X-Era]

other than "Skate Zilla will you go out with me?" i dont care :pIt's potentially a legit source for information... That said, it's not that big of a deal... But yeah I will consider information from her.

[clumping platelets]

has anyone mentioned Mancari signed with vancouver 1 yr $525k


yes....I did in this thread

[X-Era]

how involved is your daughter in your business decisions?She knows information about my work. Goes without saying.

[clumping platelets]

Connolly to Toronto???................LOL

[chernobylwraiths]

If Richards goes to anybody other than Buffalo, I want it to be Tampa. That way, they might have to trade Stamkos!

[Mski]

If Richards goes to anybody other than Buffalo, I want it to be Tampa. That way, they might have to trade Stamkos!speaking of, i'm suprised he hasnt been sent an offer sheet yet... but that might not happen till the Richards saga is over

[Ebenezer]

The list of meetings with Richards as reported by TSN and Gino Reda as of 4:15.

Toronto - 45 minutes
LA - 90 minutes
Tampa meeting now

Other teams sending offer sheets.

Pegula has not met with Richards yet.

Probably no deal today - Richards is in no rush.

[Ebenezer]

TSN reports Leino to Buffalo 6 yrs and $27 mil

[clumping platelets]

:clap:

[Nighthawk]

Leino is another winger, correct? We need centers!

[Ebenezer]

:clap:
Thank you...thank you...but really, all I did was type it. LOL.

TSN - "Yes it is an overpayment but isn't it nice to know that Buffalo can overpay".

[Nighthawk]

Plus, that's an awful lot of money for an average player...

[Ebenezer]

Leino is another winger, correct? We need centers!
Yes, they need a center but you aren't excited?

[ddaryl]

speaking of, i'm suprised he hasnt been sent an offer sheet yet... but that might not happen till the Richards saga is over

price is real steep.. I believe i read somewhere it'll cost a team a fortune to out spend Tampa and cost 4 1st rd picks as well

[DraftBoy]

If someone can fake another's account, it's stupid and pointless.

Of course, that's never stopped us before .......

Yea...but they can't.

You see there is this thing called a verified account, that Twitter gives out to media members and players, to ensure that they are legitimate.

[hydro]

Leino is another winger, correct? We need centers!

I gotta believe we have trades ready in our back pocket.

[Mski]

does signing leino mean no shot for richards?

[Ebenezer]

WGR is reporting that Sabres may now be near the cap.

[hydro]

Yea...but they can't.

You see there is this thing called a verified account, that Twitter gives out to media members and players, to ensure that they are legitimate.

No fake account that pretends to be credible has more than 50 followers. That is the easiest way to find a fraud.

[clumping platelets]

Not many centers out there...........improve the roster any way you can.

[Ebenezer]

does signing leino mean no shot for richards?
I bet that explains Pegula's daughter's quote.

[Ebenezer]

I gotta believe we have trades ready in our back pocket.
I'll take Spezza or Statsny with Leino and be very happy....I think I said that in another thread :ontome:

[Dr. Lecter]

THey are about 6 million under the offseason cap right now


IT does explain the tweet - Pegula got a text message about Leino and was responding to it and acciently tweeted it.

They have too many wingers over 4 million. I would think one is being moved.

And I agree it is a bit much for Leino, but that is what happens in FA. You overpay for guys (See Montador)

[Crisis]

i'm not crazy about leino at that price

i liked him in the playoffs against us but thats a lot of money for another winger

[Ebenezer]

If the Sabres haven't met with Richards yet have signed Leino and are supposedly at the cap then they have to have more planned....otherwise, why stay and meet with Richards?

[Dr. Lecter]

Plus, that's an awful lot of money for an average player...
I don't disagree at all, but that is what happens with free agents. And why I hate free agency

[Mski]

If the Sabres haven't met with Richards yet have signed Leino and are supposedly at the cap then they have to have more planned....otherwise, why stay and meet with Richards?due dilligence

[DraftBoy]

Yeah, it gave us inaccurate info!!

So now because people are stupid and believe unverified accounts, its Twitter's fault? Riiiiiight...

It's a poor craftsman who blames his tools.

[Dr. Lecter]

So now because people are stupid and believe unverified accounts, its Twitter's fault? Riiiiiight...

It's a poor craftsman who blames his tools.


Good spin on what I said DraftAcus!

[DraftBoy]

Anyways enough about the Twitter debate, don't want to clog up the thread.

The CSN Philly article said that this guy was probably the Flyers most consistent player on a night out and night in basis. He paired with Hartnell and Briere.

[X-Era]

THey are about 6 million under the offseason cap right now


IT does explain the tweet - Pegula got a text message about Leino and was responding to it and acciently tweeted it.

They have too many wingers over 4 million. I would think one is being moved.

And I agree it is a bit much for Leino, but that is what happens in FA. You overpay for guys (See Montador)Totally explians the tweet.

She was basically asking if Leino meant we couldn't get Richards... and my guess is it does not prevent Richards... The Sabres aren't stupid, they wouldn't still be meeting with him if they had no way to sign him.

[DraftBoy]

Good spin on what I said DraftAcus!

Low blow.

[Nighthawk]

Yes, they need a center but you aren't excited?

Depends if they get a superstar like Richards or not. If these are the type of players they end up with, they still won't Cup contenders. I'm not complaining, just answering your question. This is a million times better then before, but the fact remains, this team needs a superstar upfront...

[Dr. Lecter]

Low blow.
I will PM Sparty and apologize.

[Crisis]

Depends if they get a superstar like Richards or not. If these are the type of players they end up with, they still won't Cup contenders. I'm not complaining, just answering your question. This is a million times better then before, but the fact remains, this team needs a superstar upfront...

i don't think the sabres are done.... they're not going to add another winger without moving someone.

hopefully this is a pre-cursor to a bigger trade where we can get a legit center.

[chernobylwraiths]

I wonder who Boston's superstar up front is. Cause we can't win a Cup without one.

[Ebenezer]

Totally explians the tweet.

She was basically asking if Leino meant we couldn't get Richards... and my guess is it does not prevent Richards... The Sabres aren't stupid, they wouldn't still be meeting with him if they had no way to sign him.
did she screw up and tweet when she meant to text somebody...like her dad??

[X-Era]

Don't forget that we can go 10% over the cap for a while.

[Mski]

Don't forget that we can go 10% over the cap for a while.i think that leaves us with ~6M left to spend before we have to deal someone

[Ebenezer]

I had the volume low but I think that Dave Hodge of TSN is reporting that Wiesniewski may not have wanted to come to Buffalo and was ok with Columbus...then the Sabres got Regehr and Ehrhoff

[Ebenezer]

i think that leaves us with ~6M left to spend before we have to deal someone
Does that include sending Kotalik and Morrisson to the minors?

[X-Era]

did she screw up and tweet when she meant to text somebody...like her dad??Probably.

[Ebenezer]

TSN is having a Sabres love fest right now.

[X-Era]

Does that include sending Kotalik and Morrisson to the minors?No. they get another 5 or so back if they do that.

[Mski]

Does that include sending Kotalik and Morrisson to the minors?no i dont think they can take that into consideration until camp starts... part of why they can go 10% over

[Dozerdog]

Why does TSN use the slug logo?

[Ebenezer]

Gino Reda of TSN is reporting that Toronto, LA and TB have finished meeting with Richards and that face to face meetings are done for today. Conference calls continue and the Sabres and Rangers are yet to meet with Richards. Also notes that Pegula really wants Richards.

[Ebenezer]

Why does TSN use the slug logo?
Get HBF on that!

[Ebenezer]

According to capgeek.com Buffalo has about $2.5 million left on the cap. If you add on the $6.4 mil for the 10% that they can go over that means they have almost $9 mil to spend....without moving/trading/cutting/buying out anybody. IF they put Kotalk and Morissoon in the minors then you can add another $5mil. They have lots of flexibility and room to do as they please.

[X-Era]

So I think we will know a ton at the PC for Leino. I think we will hear whether we are still in the mix for him.

[X-Era]

According to capgeek.com Buffalo has about $2.5 million left on the cap. If you add on the $6.4 mil for the 10% that they can go over that means they have almost $9 mil to spend....without moving/trading/cutting/buying out anybody. IF they put Kotalk and Morissoon in the minors then you can add another $5mil. They have lots of flexibility and room to do as they please.:clap:

Thank you!

[Mski]

DarrenDreger:
Sources say Calgary going in with a big pitch for B.Richards. believe it or not...Flyers in as well. Not sure how. very interesting

[Ebenezer]

Does anybody feel like getting Leino is payback for losing to the Flyers?

[chernobylwraiths]

According to capgeek.com Buffalo has about $2.5 million left on the cap. If you add on the $6.4 mil for the 10% that they can go over that means they have almost $9 mil to spend....without moving/trading/cutting/buying out anybody. IF they put Kotalk and Morissoon in the minors then you can add another $5mil. They have lots of flexibility and room to do as they please.

But how many players are under contract? A full roster?

[X-Era]

If Richards is a no go I expect a big trade.

[X-Era]

But how many players are under contract? A full roster?I don't think it matters yet

[Ebenezer]

But how many players are under contract? A full roster?
They would need to sign one of their RFA defensemen and Enroth to complete 20 players and have a full team.

Correction: that would give them 22 players. 13F, 8D and Miller. McCormick wasn't listed so subtract $1.2 from what I posted before.

[Dr. Lecter]

But how many players are under contract? A full roster?
Yes. Or at least they havebeen qualified

[Ebenezer]

Fleischman to Florida for $4.5 mil a year?? Did I hear that right??

[X-Era]

TSN says we are a big winner

[Crisis]

i keep refreshing waiting for a trade where we send some of our depth at wing for a real center.

i'm ok with the leino deal as long as we move some of our wing depth for a center, but without that i'm not liking it too much.

[clumping platelets]

It's very possible the Sabres realized that Richards is no longer a viable option and decided to pursue the #1 C via trade. Adding Leino gives us excellent depth. We had 4 major needs going into the offseason, addition of Leino fills 3 of them. Improve the team in any way you can.............maybe Roy can be the #1 C until other options become available.

[clumping platelets]

Fleischman to Florida for $4.5 mil a year?? Did I hear that right??


and people are complaining about Leino?

[Ebenezer]

NHL network leads off their 5PM news with Jagr...what a joke.

[Ebenezer]

It's very possible the Sabres realized that Richards is no longer a viable option and decided to pursue the #1 C via trade. Adding Leino gives us excellent depth. We had 4 major needs going into the offseason, addition of Leino fills 3 of them. Improve the team in any way you can.............maybe Roy can be the #1 C until other options become available.
Even if then cannot get Richards, Stastny or Spezza the Sabres are a much better team now than they were just one week ago.

[generalmills]

in a trade situation what winger(s) would you be willing to give up to free up the space? It would have to be substantial, no?

[X-Era]

From the arena, Leino is the plan B and a center for us. We are out of the Richards sweepstakes. Trades are not off the table.

They planned to go up to meet with Richards but then didn't.

[Crisis]

in a trade situation what winger(s) would you be willing to give up to free up the space? It would have to be substantial, no?

vanek is the only wing i'd be unwilling to trade... i'd almost say ennis to but i wouldn't be opposed if he was in a deal for someone like spezza.

[Nighthawk]

So WGR just reported that Darcy Dumbass said Leino was plan B and they are not pursuing Richards and that this is pretty much their roster. Umm, really??? Well folks, this team is nowheres good enough to win a cup and they are very mediocre upfront. Really disappointed if this is the "center" that they are adding.

[Mr. Pink]

Leino is a solid signing...not the big splashy signing that many of you hoped for but he's a solid young player with playoff experience. And a guy who had a monster of a playoffs 2 seasons ago with Philly.

Anytime you can add a player like that you've done well.

[Nighthawk]

Leino is a solid signing...not the big splashy signing that many of you hoped for but he's a solid young player with playoff experience. And a guy who had a monster of a playoffs 2 seasons ago with Philly.

Anytime you can add a player like that you've done well.

We've got a lot of "solid" players, we need stars...

[Ebenezer]

So WGR just reported that Darcy Dumbass said Leino was plan B and they are not pursuing Richards and that this is pretty much their roster. Umm, really??? Well folks, this team is nowheres good enough to win a cup and they are very mediocre upfront. Really disappointed if this is the "center" that they are adding.
Yes...it's always Darcy. He is so powerful he has yet another owner completely mesmerized. In order for you to be correct then Pegula is just another chump. We might as well just self destruct now.

[Crisis]

the one big thing i love about leino is that he's a bigtime playoff performer though...we need more of those upfront on this team.

[X-Era]

Yes...it's always Darcy. He is so powerful he has yet another owner completely mesmerized. In order for you to be correct then Pegula is just another chump. We might as well just self destruct now.THis team is way better right now. We are deep with the exception of C, and have the prospects and players to make a big trade if we choose. Add in how much better our D is... I'm really happy.

[Ebenezer]

THis team is way better right now. We are deep with the exception of C, and have the prospects and players to make a big trade if we choose. Add in how much better our D is... I'm really happy.
So am I. I nearly wet myself when the Leino signing was announced. My sarcasm didn't drip through that post?

[Crisis]

i'm worried about our centers, but we have an owner willing to spend now and we definitely have the assets to acquire one in a trade still.

other than that, our defense looks sick and we have a lot of good wingers....and of course we still have miller and now a dependable backup

[Ebenezer]

i'm worried about our centers, but we have an owner willing to spend now and we definitely have the assets to acquire one in a trade still.

other than that, our defense looks sick and we have a lot of good wingers....and of course we still have miller and now a dependable backup
If you went to sleep when Philly beat Buffalo and woke up at 5PM today and didn't know any of the soap opera behind how these players moved, wouldn't you agree that the Sabres are a much better team today??

[Crisis]

If you went to sleep when Philly beat Buffalo and woke up at 5PM today and didn't know any of the soap opera behind how these players moved, wouldn't you agree that the Sabres are a much better team today??

exactly. it's still only year one of pegula too. the team actually has a direction now.

[clumping platelets]

Getzlaf, Weiss, Bolland, Stastny, Backstrom, Brassard, Staal (pitt)..............there are possibilities

[X-Era]

Getzlaf, Weiss, Bolland, Stastny, Backstrom, Brassard, Staal (pitt)..............there are possibilitiesStaal :drool:

[CAbills]

Two upgrades to the D and a C who will atleast be better than Connolly. Peeps there was 1 true #1 center on the market whom we would never even have considered before.

Im disappointed we didnt get Richards then took a deep breath. They are a better team now and it aint all going to be fixed in one off season.

[Michael82]

Anyone else think that the plan is to move Tyler Ennis back to center? He was a center before Buffalo, wasn't he?

[jamze132]

It shouldn't surprise anyone that we aren't getting Richards. There are a bunch of other teams out there. Regardless of what is reported, he's going to the team that offers him the most money, just like 99% of other athletes.

Our team was already a playoff caliber team before FA started and we are MUCH better today. Who says we aren't a cup contender with Miller in net? This team is going to be amped when the season starts because of what our new owner has said and done so far. Watch this team compete for the cup. Watch for this team to be very active at the trade deadline next season.

I am finally super excited about Buffalo professional sports for a change!