It's not over yet: Players turn.

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  • Extremebillsfan247
    Registered User
    • Sep 2008
    • 3142

    It's not over yet: Players turn.

    Lets just keep this in perspective. The players still have a lot to do on their end before anything moves forward from this point. First, there wont be a CBA without a union. It will require votes from all 1900 players to be gathered, and votes must be in favor in order to recertify the union. From the players perspective, that can't happen overnight. Player reps who just received detailed emails from DeMaurice Smith about what went down today on the Owners side, are relaying those details to their respective constituents. We still have a little ways to go. The ball is essentially in their court, but early rumblings are that they are not liking what they see. Hopefully that is wrong.

    Here is some of that Email from Smith being trickled out over twitter for those who haven't seen it yet.

    Smith "As you know the Owners have ratified their proposal to settle our differences. It is my understanding they are forwarding it to us. As u may have heard, they apparently approved a supplemental revenue sharing proposal. Only, we have not been a part of those discussions. As you know from yesterday, issues that need to be collectively bargained remain open. Other issues such as workers compensation, economic issues and end of deal terms remain unresolved. There is no agreement between the NFL and the Players at this time. I look forward to our call tonight."

    So, to clarify how the players are seeing this according to what I've been reading, they feel like they've been duped. The deal the owners voted on today was apparently different from what was on the table during negotiation sessions. The unanimous vote was meant to be a show of solidarity among owners that this newly voted on proposal is what is needed for the lockout to be lifted. It doesn't end the lockout, its more or less, "here is our final offer, take it or leave it". Now it's up to the players. If there is going to be an NFL season, that proposal is what they will have to agree upon.
    Last edited by Extremebillsfan247; 07-21-2011, 07:54 PM.
  • mikemac2001
    is the creepy cross dresser staring at you in the corner
    • Mar 2003
    • 4574

    #2
    Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

    YA MJD was just on sirius saying its not over players havent voted blah blah blah

    all this players side stuff

    then at the end they asked are you optimistic

    he said "very optimistic"

    hes been pretty anti owners whole lockout on sirius

    MUCK
    FIAMI

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    • SeatownBillsFan21
      Registered User
      • Mar 2004
      • 2149

      #3
      Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

      10 bucks says the players shut this down...

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      • Extremebillsfan247
        Registered User
        • Sep 2008
        • 3142

        #4
        Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

        Originally posted by mikemac2001
        YA MJD was just on sirius saying its not over players havent voted blah blah blah

        all this players side stuff

        then at the end they asked are you optimistic

        he said "very optimistic"

        hes been pretty anti owners whole lockout on sirius
        Yeah, for lack of better terms, I think its all bs. But, I posted it anyway. This board is about to come to life with info popping out of every corner. We are all going to be wired pretty tightly by the time this thing is over. I'm expecting some hot language to come flying out. I've already got my popcorn ready. lol It's always darkest before the dawn.

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        • NOT THE DUDE...
          Hall of Fame Zoner
          • Jan 2010
          • 8826

          #5
          Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

          if the players vote its going to pass....

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          • Extremebillsfan247
            Registered User
            • Sep 2008
            • 3142

            #6
            Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

            Originally posted by MARCELL DAREUS POWER
            if the players vote its going to pass....
            Its looking like a pretty big if at this point though. Hopefully all the players need is time to look over the new proposal to put a vote to it. But some strong language against it is already starting to poor out from the players end. This thing could get pretty ugly in a hurry. According Salsports who I follow on twitter and also posts here, the players are now threatening to sue the NFL for attempting to coerce them into formulating a union which is supposedly a violation of federal labor laws.
            Last edited by Extremebillsfan247; 07-21-2011, 08:44 PM.

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            • HAMMER
              I'm right, Miyagi is wrong.
              • Jul 2003
              • 8132

              #7
              Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

              Smith just released a statement, no vote, "need more time to consider forming a union, and making needed changes to the agreement".

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              • DrGraves
                Registered User
                • Mar 2008
                • 2693

                #8
                Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

                someone just wake me up when its time for kick off in KC...

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                • Extremebillsfan247
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 3142

                  #9
                  Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

                  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...to-player-reps Here is a link to a 2nd email sent out.

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                  • SeatownBillsFan21
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 2149

                    #10
                    Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

                    What a mess this is turning out to be i get it eveyone needs to know and understand what there singing but dam why did the owners vote on something that the players didnt see??? sounds fishy to me.We as fans never get the full story.i just hope this all ends very very soon....

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                    • TigerJ
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 22575

                      #11
                      Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

                      I personnally don't think the players should have a say in any revenue sharing proposal the owners may decide on. The CBA proposal has a salary cap floor, that the players wanted. That makes it unnecessary for the players to worry about revenue sharing. I understand there are minor issues like workers comp. The good thing about the whole mess is that once a deal is reached and voted on by both sides, it will run 10 years. We won't have to deal with this messuntil I'm retired
                      I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

                      I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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                      • NOT THE DUDE...
                        Hall of Fame Zoner
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 8826

                        #12
                        Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

                        mort said a vote 2mor for players....

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                        • Luisito23
                          Men Have Superbowl Gold, Legends Have Platinum Hearts!!!
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 7433

                          #13
                          Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

                          The greedy ass players betta not F this up!
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                          • Mr. Pink
                            Peterman Sucks!
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 35303

                            #14
                            Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

                            It would not surprise me if the players said no to the proposal just based upon what DeMaurice Smith said.

                            I think this quote along with the players egos on this sort of stuff makes tomorrow not so much a done deal.....Smith "As you know the Owners have ratified their proposal to settle our differences. It is my understanding they are forwarding it to us. As u may have heard, they apparently approved a supplemental revenue sharing proposal. Only, we have not been a part of those discussions. As you know from yesterday, issues that need to be collectively bargained remain open. Other issues such as workers compensation, economic issues and end of deal terms remain unresolved. There is no agreement between the NFL and the Players at this time. I look forward to our call tonight."

                            I think the players not being part of the discussions becomes a sticking point where regardless if they like it or not, they'll vote it down to try and discuss it out and get a better deal.

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                            • BuffaloBlitz83
                              We play to win the game!
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 5754

                              #15
                              Re: It's not over yet: Players turn.

                              **** the owners. Cheese move to vote on something that players haven't even seen. And get media involved to get fans anti players. From the start the owners are the ones that locked the players out, The players liked the current deal. The owners were at fault on the past cba.

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