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  • MidnightVoice
    Retired (mostly)
    • Mar 2003
    • 10791

    New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

    The late Don Smith never claimed his passer-rating formula was perfect.Quite the opposite, in fact."Some people call it a quarterback rating system, but that really is not what it is," Smith told me during a 2002 interview.


    With input from football people, including ESPN analyst Trent Dilfer, our statistical analysts have developed a 100-point ratings scale for quarterbacks taking into account advanced stats, game situations and relevant non-passing stats, including fumbles and sacks, to evaluate quarterbacks far more thoroughly. The methodology is complex -- one of the formula's key algorithms spans some 10,000 lines -- but the resulting "Total Quarterback Rating" (QBR for short) beats the old passer rating in every conceivable fashion. The ratings scale will debut this season............

    I've seen an outline for the rating system breaking down 2010 quarterbacks into six general categories, from top tier to poor. Precise rating numbers were not yet available. The quarterbacks under consideration broke down as follows:


    •Top tier: Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Michael Vick, Rodgers and Drew Brees.


    •Well above average: Josh Freeman, Eli Manning and Philip Rivers.


    •Above average: Ben Roethlisberger, Tony Romo, Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub, David Garrard and Kerry Collins.


    Around average: Matt Cassel, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Mark Sanchez, Carson Palmer, Colt McCoy, Kyle Orton and Jon Kitna.


    •Below average: Shaun Hill, Jason Campbell, Jay Cutler, Matt Hasselbeck, Chad Henne, Donovan McNabb, Sam Bradford and Alex Smith.


    •Poor: Derek Anderon, Brett Favre and Jimmy Clausen.


    At least there are SOME rated worse than Fitz

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    that’s the thing
    shut up and deal
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  • ddaryl
    Everything I post is sexual inuendo
    • Jan 2005
    • 10714

    #2
    Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

    this year will be a tell tale year regarding how good Fitz can be... He's the starter from the get go and got lots of time in with the O last year...

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    • Ginger Vitis
      Registered User
      • Feb 2009
      • 3451

      #3
      Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

      Ben Roethlisberger should be in the "well above average"
      No friggin way Colt McCoy should be ranked higher than Sam Bradford

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      • Prov401
        President of WADL (Whitner Anti-Defamation League)
        • Aug 2008
        • 1651

        #4
        Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

        I'd rather have Roethlisberger than Freeman, Vick, Ryan, Manning, and Rivers.

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        • Luisito23
          Men Have Superbowl Gold, Legends Have Platinum Hearts!!!
          • Apr 2003
          • 7434

          #5
          Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

          Originally posted by Ginger Vitis
          Ben Roethlisberger should be in the "well above average"
          No friggin way Colt McCoy should be ranked higher than Sam Bradford

          LOL, yeah, I don't know what ESPN is smoking, but I do agree with them about Fitz though.
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          • trapezeus
            Legendary Zoner
            • Oct 2004
            • 19525

            #6
            Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

            sam bradford below average? ok.

            interesting that there are a number of 1st round qb's who suck and do well. picking a qb not always a guarantee, except at the end of this year when the bills get andrew luck.

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            • FlyingDutchman
              Registered User
              • Apr 2005
              • 5074

              #7
              Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

              Colt Mccoy? Over Cutler, Mcnabb and Bradford? Thaaaaaaaats a joke

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              • EDS
                Registered User
                • Jan 2003
                • 5216

                #8
                Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

                You guys are not paying attention. This is not a breakdown of who they think is good or bad, but a statistical measurement.

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                • ChristopherWalken
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 1026

                  #9
                  Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

                  Yeah...LOL - Bradford needs to be a little higher on that list.

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                  • BillsWin
                    man amongst boys
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 6025

                    #10
                    Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

                    We can win with an around average QB. Teams have been doing it for years. We just won't win the big game with one. I do like the approach of fixing line and defense first.
                    I am The Batman.

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                    • Night Train
                      Retired - On Several Levels
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 33117

                      #11
                      Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

                      Riight now, that's completely fair. No problem with it.
                      Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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                      • wozrob11
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 175

                        #12
                        Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

                        Average sounds good actually im pretty excited to watch Fitz play this year . i havent said that about a bills QB sence Flutie
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                        • Dujek
                          Hall of Fame Zoner
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 7806

                          #13
                          Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

                          Any statistic solely blaming quarterbacks for getting sacked should be rolled up and thrown in the bin.

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                          • Buddo
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 1864

                            #14
                            Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

                            It's not about how good they might be, it's about how good they are currently.
                            Bradford, for a rookie QB, showed a great deal of promise, but even under the 'old' QB rating, didn't actually show up that well, iirc.
                            It would be interesting to see how much difference this supposedly in depth look, makes over the old one, i.e. who moves up or down a list because of it.

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                            • YardRat
                              Well, lookie here...
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 86268

                              #15
                              Re: New ESPN QB rating - Fitz "around average"

                              Lost me at 'Trent Dilfer'.
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