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  • Figster
    Registered User
    • Oct 2010
    • 1701

    Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

    Its no secret that Chan Gailey is a very creative, football savvy coach capable of accomplishing more with less. My question is, does there come a point when Gaileys exceptional innovative skills actual works against him and the team when it comes to accomplishing the ultimate goal,winning a Championship. Gailey can take no name WR's and turn them into stars, Stevie Johnson is a good example. Now I'm not saying Johnson's not a good athlete because he is, but I am saying without Chan Gailey coordinating the offense Johnson is just another average WR in the NFL. Career backup, Ryan Fitzpatrick is another good example. In all probability Fitzpatrick is about to have the best season of his career as a starting signal caller in the NFL. The Bills O-line is another good example, in my opinion the Bills O-line is in the top 5 worse O-lines in the league. On the other hand, Chan Gailey will take our current below average O-line and he's going to disguise it with exceptional scheming/ play calling and win football games.

    Gailey can do more with less, no doubt about it, but my question to Buddy Nix is, can you be Football savvy enough to realize that with better talent accross the board on Offense and a good defense backing them up, Chan Gailey and the Buffalo Bills could win a Championship.
  • bf1
    Registered User
    • Oct 2010
    • 2882

    #2
    Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

    From 7-9 to 4-12 is doing more with less?


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    • trapezeus
      Legendary Zoner
      • Oct 2004
      • 19525

      #3
      Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

      the 7-9 bills were hardly competitive. hanging on against bad teams to pull out wins. the 4-12 bills were in games with good teams. Aside from the very beginning of the season, they showed that they were kind of a NFL team. They had problems, but then addressed them. Trent sucked, he was gone. Defense 3-4 was not ready personel wise, they went back.

      Gailey's 4-12 season was much mroe enjoyable than the 7-9 jauron teams.

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      • bf1
        Registered User
        • Oct 2010
        • 2882

        #4
        Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

        Originally posted by trapezeus
        the 7-9 bills were hardly competitive. hanging on against bad teams to pull out wins. the 4-12 bills were in games with good teams. Aside from the very beginning of the season, they showed that they were kind of a NFL team. They had problems, but then addressed them. Trent sucked, he was gone. Defense 3-4 was not ready personel wise, they went back.

        Gailey's 4-12 season was much mroe enjoyable than the 7-9 jauron teams.


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        • Extremebillsfan247
          Registered User
          • Sep 2008
          • 3142

          #5
          Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

          Originally posted by dog14787
          Its no secret that Chan Gailey is a very creative, football savvy coach capable of accomplishing more with less. My question is, does there come a point when Gaileys exceptional innovative skills actual works against him and the team when it comes to accomplishing the ultimate goal,winning a Championship. Gailey can take no name WR's and turn them into stars, Stevie Johnson is a good example. Now I'm not saying Johnson's not a good athlete because he is, but I am saying without Chan Gailey coordinating the offense Johnson is just another average WR in the NFL. Career backup, Ryan Fitzpatrick is another good example. In all probability Fitzpatrick is about to have the best season of his career as a starting signal caller in the NFL. The Bills O-line is another good example, in my opinion the Bills O-line is in the top 5 worse O-lines in the league. On the other hand, Chan Gailey will take our current below average O-line and he's going to disguise it with exceptional scheming/ play calling and win football games.

          Gailey can do more with less, no doubt about it, but my question to Buddy Nix is, can you be Football savvy enough to realize that with better talent accross the board on Offense and a good defense backing them up, Chan Gailey and the Buffalo Bills could win a Championship.
          I think the answer to your question really is a matter of how much control Chan Gailey actually has over the team, and who gets to play on it/ who doesn't etc. As far as Stevie Johnson is concerned, you can attribute his success last year to Ryan Fitzpatrick who made him his go to receiver. Johnson was the receiver Fitz felt more familiar with having thrown to him quite often in practice while Fitz was still a back up here. Gailey just went with what was working at the time. But that is what Gailey does. He will keep trying different things until something sticks, and then builds off of that. Whether that will ever win him a championship in this league is unknown. JMO

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          • justasportsfan
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 71579

            #6
            Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

            Originally posted by bf1
            offensively speaking, I agree with trap. Defensively close to the same due to the transition. Even though we had the wrong players, at least they werent soft.
            sacrifice1
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            • trapezeus
              Legendary Zoner
              • Oct 2004
              • 19525

              #7
              Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

              ROFL? Really? You thought the bills were building anything in those 3.5 years of jauron. At the end of every year, you were mostly thankful it was over.

              Last year it was a bitter taste to have the last couple games end as poorly as the first, but you knew some areas were finally addressed and that the team actually could make some decisions instead of ramming the same bull**** idea week to week, year to year.

              Chan isn't like a legendary coach, but i think he's earned the next two years more so than Jauron ever did.

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              • dog14787
                Registered User
                • Oct 2010
                • 1701

                #8
                Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

                Originally posted by Extremebillsfan247
                I think the answer to your question really is a matter of how much control Chan Gailey actually has over the team, and who gets to play on it/ who doesn't etc. As far as Stevie Johnson is concerned, you can attribute his success last year to Ryan Fitzpatrick who made him his go to receiver. Johnson was the receiver Fitz felt more familiar with having thrown to him quite often in practice while Fitz was still a back up here. Gailey just went with what was working at the time. But that is what Gailey does. He will keep trying different things until something sticks, and then builds off of that. Whether that will ever win him a championship in this league is unknown. JMO
                I agree Extreme, and so far indications suggest Chan Gailey has a lot of clout as HC of the Buffalo Bills.

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                • better days
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 22028

                  #9
                  Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

                  Originally posted by bf1
                  So you had more enjoyment watching the Bills go about .500 year after year with Jauron as HC than the excitement of most of the games, even the losses last year???

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                  • Ingtar33
                    Dances With Buffaloes
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 15469

                    #10
                    Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

                    Originally posted by trapezeus
                    Gailey's 4-12 season was much mroe enjoyable than the 7-9 jauron teams.
                    that's too much horse**** to swallow in one sentence.
                    My wife told me that if I had a dollar for every girl who found me unattractive, girls would find me VERY attractive.

                    MY WIFE SAID THAT!!!

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                    • bf1
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 2882

                      #11
                      Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

                      Originally posted by better days
                      So you had more enjoyment watching the Bills go about .500 year after year with Jauron as HC than the excitement of most of the games, even the losses last year???
                      Abso****inglutely not.

                      I hate 7-9. I hate 4-12 more.

                      I do not think 4-12 is better than 7-9.

                      I do not think a team has to go backwards or "bottom out" in order to improve.



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                      • bf1
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 2882

                        #12
                        Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

                        Originally posted by Ingtar33
                        that's too much horse**** to swallow in one sentence.
                        I bet psychologists can have a field day examining that type of thinking.


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                        • justasportsfan
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 71579

                          #13
                          Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

                          Originally posted by bf1
                          Abso****inglutely not.

                          I hate 7-9. I hate 4-12 more.

                          I do not think 4-12 is better than 7-9.

                          I do not think a team has to go backwards or "bottom out" in order to improve.

                          the records do not tell the whole story of how the team performed. The schedule did not help matters for Gailey in his 1st year of cleaning up Dicks mess. I prefer the losses to pitts and Ravens last year over the losses to the browns under Dick.

                          I'll take Chans 1st year over Dicks 3rd and 4th year anyday.
                          Last edited by justasportsfan; 08-10-2011, 01:58 PM.
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                          • trapezeus
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 19525

                            #14
                            Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

                            i just don't know how you take jauron's team that was mentality and physically soft and expect to just turn them around. and in the end, this year the draft positioning they had ended up being very beneficial. even their front office had a tough time blowing these picks this time.

                            and for the record, i think Jauron was like 3-6 when he was let go, and they won 3 more games simply because fewell was a breath of fresh air. So jauron was kind of cruising to a 3-13 season himself.

                            either way, neither team was that good. As i said a number of times, i felt like jauron teams were overacheiving 7-9 status. they were truly a 3 4 win team that managed to fight its way into a couple more wins.

                            Gailey didn't do that. with a couple extra bounces he could be at that same level.

                            it is what it is. i'd take gailey and his one **** season with the biills everyday if the only other option the table was Jauron.

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                            • Mr. Pink
                              Peterman Sucks!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 35303

                              #15
                              Re: Chan Gailey/Does more with Less

                              Originally posted by justasportsfan
                              the records are not indicative of how the team performed. The schedule did not help matters for Gailey. I prefer the losses to pitts and Ravens last year over the losses to the browns under Dick.

                              Saying you prefer the losses to the Steelers and Ravens is like saying you preferred the Jauron led Bills loss to the Cowboys on MNF over Gaileys losses to the Jets - either one.

                              An L is an L.

                              And there was far more Ls last year than any of Jaurons years.

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