Maybin cut

[Ickybaluky]

Per Adam Schefter.

[Dr. Lecter]

As per Schefter in twitter

[hammerbillsfan]

AdamSchefter (http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter) Adam Schefter



Another big move for the Bills: Buffalo is releasing former first-round pick Aaron Maybin.

[better days]

What a surprise cut.

[Ebenezer]

I'm not blaming the kid. He never lived up to the billing but he didn't ask to be drafted by the Bills. It was a wasted pick and will go down as probably the third worst ever by the team - at least he tried. Walt Patulski and Phil Dokes didn't even show.

[TacklingDummy]

AdamSchefter (http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter) Adam Schefter



Another big move for the Bills: Buffalo is releasing former first-round pick Aaron Maybin.


How is this a big move?

[clumping platelets]

See......the jersey curse is a fallacy. I never owned his jersey and he failed

I'm getting a new jersey and one I so choose :tongue2:

[Forward_Lateral]

He ranks right up there with Mike Williams and Flowers.

[better days]

I'm not blaming the kid. He never lived up to the billing but he didn't ask to be drafted by the Bills. It was a wasted pick and will go down as probably the third worst ever by the team - at least he tried. Walt Patulski and Phil Dokes didn't even show.

Yeah he did ask to be drafted. It has been widely speculated that Maybin juiced just before the combine to get his weight up to 250.

[doormatt]

That and "Amy Winehouse Found Dead" are the least surpising headlines of the year...

[muestafa1]

Per Adam Schefter.

Even after hearing how much he's struggled in camp and such, it was another thing to actually see it during the Chicago pre-season game. To be thrown around that badly by players on Chicago's roster bubble... It was bad. My wife and I were watching him play after play... He'd make contact with the o-line and then he was either falling to the ground or was in the air flying backwards.

[trapezeus]

the bills give up on yet another first rounder....
oh wait, that was friday's set of threads.

I for one am estatic this is finally done.

[Don't Panic]

So it goes...

Kills me what could have been out of that pick. Instead it is just the continued purging of the old regime. I don't blame him either... its not like if they drafted me #11 I wouldn't show up.

[ServoBillieves]

Is he a Patriot yet?

[trapezeus]

i feel like this feeling of excitement is possibly my "we've made the playoffs" feeling for this year.

[Cleve]

So this will neither help nor hurt the Bills - since Maybin was basically a permanent bench-warmer.

This will only be of benefit if his salary is used to get someone that can produce something on the roster.

BTW, the Bills are ranked 31 out of 32 in ESPN's power rankings. How bad IS Maybin to not even be worth playing on THIS team, as bad as it is?

[Ebenezer]

So it goes...

Kills me what could have been out of that pick. Instead it is just the continued purging of the old regime. I don't blame him either... its not like if they drafted me #11 I wouldn't show up.
Michael Oher. Nothing more need be said.

[Ebenezer]

See......the jersey curse is a fallacy. I never owned his jersey and he failed

I'm getting a new jersey and one I so choose :tongue2:
Did you fail Logic 101?

[Night Train]

The CFL awaits !

[DraftBoy]

Maybin cut...

Bills have added an extra 4th Round pick..

Supplemental Draft is on Wednesday and there is a pass rusher available...

Hmmm...

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=204657

[OpIv37]

He ranks right up there with Mike Williams and Flowers.

I'd say Williams and Flowers rank up there with Maybin. At least those guys got some starts.

Maybin is the new gold standard for epic Bills busts.

[clumping platelets]

Did you fail Logic 101?


:no:

[Ickybaluky]

Michael Oher. Nothing more need be said.

Clay Matthews.

[ServoBillieves]

Clay Matthews.

Brian Orakpo.

[Forward_Lateral]

Anyone drafted in the first 3 rounds that year.

[Dr. Lecter]

:no:
Yes.

BTW, Flowers had something like 4 sacks as a member of the Bills.

Maybin has the same number of sacks that I have

[psubills62]

Are we down to 89 then on the roster? I don't remember them ever quite getting up to 90 players, but they probably did at some point.

[Dozerdog]

That and "Amy Winehouse Found Dead" are the least surpising headlines of the year...

Per Twitter- she signed with the Bills to replace Maybin.



Maybe RB's will trip over the corpse for a fewer than 3 yard gain

[M]

FINALLY!!! :jig:

[Mski]

he's now the top trender on twitter too

[Ed]

So that leaves McKelvin as the only remaining 1st round pick on the team from any of the previous regimes. The countdown begins...

[ServoBillieves]

In the words of Joel during "Warrior of the Lost World"...

"Our long national nightmare is over!"

now can we cut Shawn Nelson?

[trapezeus]

bently and tasker said something like, "gailey says mckelvin can be as good as he wants to be and has to put effort into being a great player."

that sounds like they might ditch him too if there is a good second option to him.

the question slowly becomes more pressing, "who are they going to give crazy money to to get to the floor?" thisis a bit distressing.

[Mski]

the question slowly becomes more pressing, "who are they going to give crazy money to to get to the floor?" thisis a bit distressing.Kyle Williams

[Philagape]

"The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away." Grand Moff Tarkin, Star Wars

[TacklingDummy]

Brian Cushings

[TacklingDummy]

Josh Freeman

[Maximilli]

If Maybin gets cut does that mean theyll bring in someone else

[TacklingDummy]

Alex Mack

[ddaryl]

That Bears preseason game was a huge exclamation point regarding Maybin's complete inability to have even a minor impact.

Biggest waste of a #1 pick to date, and that says a lot considering how many the Bills have put up

[TacklingDummy]

Hakeem Nicks

[TacklingDummy]

Jeremy Maclin

[psubills62]

bently and tasker said something like, "gailey says mckelvin can be as good as he wants to be and has to put effort into being a great player."

that sounds like they might ditch him too if there is a good second option to him.

the question slowly becomes more pressing, "who are they going to give crazy money to to get to the floor?" thisis a bit distressing.
Don't have to worry about the floor for a couple years. At that point, they'll hopefully have one or two talented guys that they need to re-sign, like Steve Johnson, maybe Ryan Fitzpatrick (hopefully as a backup), Jairus Byrd, Wood/Levitre, etc.

I think it was on bb.com that I just read a CB article with positive quotes from Gailey about McKelvin, saying he's had a good camp. TIFWIW.

[ddaryl]

So that leaves McKelvin as the only remaining 1st round pick on the team from any of the previous regimes. The countdown begins...



Watching McKelvin trying to tackle a RB making it to the 2nd level during the Bears game showed how much of a piss poor tackler he is.. So I wouldn't be surprised...

i watched the guy drop to his knees in front of a bear RB and hope that the RB would just trip over him. made no attempt at all to wrap the guy up more then once !!!!!

[Ebenezer]

bently and tasker said something like, "gailey says mckelvin can be as good as he wants to be and has to put effort into being a great player."

that sounds like they might ditch him too if there is a good second option to him.

the question slowly becomes more pressing, "who are they going to give crazy money to to get to the floor?" thisis a bit distressing.


there is no floor until 2013

[Aero II]

Watching McKelvin trying to tackle a RB making it to the 2nd level during the Bears game showed how much of a piss poor tackler he is.. So I wouldn't be surprised...

i watched the guy drop to his knees in front of a bear RB and hope that the RB would just trip over him. made no attempt at all to wrap the guy up more then once !!!!!

Maybe he learned that move from Florence. He did the same thing inside the 10.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Maybin cut...

Bills have added an extra 4th Round pick..

Supplemental Draft is on Wednesday and there is a pass rusher available...

Hmmm...

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=204657Say hello to McAdoo!!

[Historian]

Damn!!

I just had the 'Conlan' taken off my 58 jersey too...

[BillsOverDolphins]

There's tears of joy streaming down my face right now.

[Jeff1220]

Maybin is the new standard for Bills busts. I don't think Flowers or Williams even really come close tbh.

[NorthCarBills]

XXXX Dick Jauron.

[Ebenezer]

It's on the Bills website...which is moving really slowly...lol

[trapezeus]

i'd like to hire dick jauron back for a day and then have an event at the ralph where he stands at the 50 yard line and fans are allowed to throw nerf balls at him for a full 25 minutes.

i am willing to pay more for that event than i am for tickets to a regular game.

[Ebenezer]

i'd like to hire dick jauron back for a day and then have an event at the ralph where he stands at the 50 yard line and fans are allowed to throw nerf balls at him for a full 25 minutes.

i am willing to pay more for that event than i am for tickets to a regular game.
Nerf balls?? Lawn jarts are more like it.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

"Our long national nightmare is over."

So let's review the picks from the Levy/Brandon/Jauron era:
Whitner - gone
Lynch - gone
McKelvin - still here
Maybin - gone

In four seasons, one of them is still on the team. Marv, you were a good coach, but a GM you were not.

[trapezeus]

trying to keep it fun for the Tops Family corner.

[Bulldog]

i'd like to hire dick jauron back for a day and then have an event at the ralph where he stands at the 50 yard line and fans are allowed to throw nerf balls at him for a full 25 minutes.

i am willing to pay more for that event than i am for tickets to a regular game.

I was thinking of snowballs with rocks in the middle of them.

[Mahdi]

When did we have to make cuts by? Timing is strange, maybe a trade in the works?

[Mahdi]

"Our long national nightmare is over."

So let's review the picks from the Levy/Brandon/Jauron era:
Whitner - gone
Lynch - gone
McKelvin - still here
Maybin - gone

In four seasons, one of them is still on the team. Marv, you were a good coach, but a GM you were not.
This clearly shows that you don't draft for need. You draft the BPA on the board.

[BoyILuvLoznStupidly]

Nerf balls?? Lawn jarts are more like it.

I like shooting him with paintballs better

[BillyT92679]

When did we have to make cuts by? Timing is strange, maybe a trade in the works?
Or as DB points out, the Supp Draft is coming up
Michael McAdoo fits the bill.

[Mahdi]

Or as DB points out, the Supp Draft is coming up
Michael McAdoo fits the bill.
Ya could be.... this regime likes NC players so wouldn't surprise me.

[Ebenezer]

Or maybe he just sucks and they figured it was best to get rid of the garbage early. They could have cut any number of guys to simply draft somebody in the Supplemental draft...stop reading into it too deeply.

[BoyILuvLoznStupidly]

What BS, this is Ralph just being cheap! Lets just trade all our 1st rounders away before 9/11

[Mski]

I was thinking of snowballs with rocks in the middle of them.we're not Cleveland

[TMu11]

What BS, this is Ralph just being cheap! Lets just trade all our 1st rounders away before 9/11

This is a joke... right?

[trapezeus]

let's be honest, the bills rarely have something else ready to go. they make singular decisions with very little forward looking actions.

The last great 2 step process to get a player that we wanted in here was Bennett.

Maybin was cut because if you are a first rounder, you get a little break to get up to speed. You get a little mroe time because you have to be a game changer when you start. And after the bears game, it was clear that he wasn't turning the corner anytime soon and letting pretty much anyone short of the midget trainer get reps out there was better than letting him flounder out there.

meanwhile you have woods taking verbal shots at him last year and someone else had a veiled comment this year at maybin. He's done.

The bills will try throwing more **** at the wall with the supp draft and because we love under dogs, we'll root for this guy to succeed. But the truth is the team is still really talent deficient. and that could take another 2 years to get over, and at some point, they have to resign players who are good. We haven't gotten to that point yet.

[Historian]

i'd like to hire dick jauron back for a day and then have an event at the ralph where he stands at the 50 yard line and fans are allowed to throw nerf balls at him for a full 25 minutes.

i am willing to pay more for that event than i am for tickets to a regular game.

While this is hysterical, Trap....there is a part of me that thinks we will one day be wishing for Dick's 7-9 trifecta, after the current tubesteaks go 4-12, 4-12 and 4-12.

[TacklingDummy]

While this is hysterical, Trap....there is a part of me that thinks we will one day be wishing for Dick's 7-9 trifecta, after the current tubesteaks go 4-12, 4-12 and 4-12.


4-12 last year, most likely 5-11 or worse this year, when does Chan get canned?

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Funny article from WGR on Maybin. I guess all the Buffalo writers should have that article written long time ago - they knew the day will come.
http://www.wgr550.com/pages/9034669.php?pid=58682

[Ebenezer]

Funny article from WGR on Maybin. I guess all the Buffalo writers should have that article written long time ago - they knew the day will come.
http://www.wgr550.com/pages/9034669.php?pid=58682
Some of us had it written 30 seconds after he was drafted instead of Michael Oher.

[trapezeus]

i'm not a kool-aid drinker. but after how uncompetitive the team has been the last 3.5 years under jauron and the drafts he had, i honestly think any coach worth his salt had to go at least 2 seasons without significant wins.

I think the defense is close to being a real NFL defense. they need depth to make them a top 10 if this year goes according to plan.

Offense, they need the draft that they had this year but for offense next year. they need a big time playermaker in the 1st round for QB, they need a very dependable WR in round 2, they need to get more RB's in here in round 3 or 4. they need 2-4 OT's that provide depth and can be plugged in in the event of an injury.

And then at that point, they'll be good enough to roll without injury, like the defense seems right now.


I just don't see how any coach could have fixed jauron's mess in under 3 years. i think the bills give gailey the time he needs. As long as there isn't a fan revolt, the bills FO found out how undesirable the bills coaching job is. So they probably won't be begging to scrape the bottom of the barrell all over again.

[DraftBoy]

Or maybe he just sucks and they figured it was best to get rid of the garbage early. They could have cut any number of guys to simply draft somebody in the Supplemental draft...stop reading into it too deeply.

For the record Im not reading into anything, Im simply presenting the facts. It doesnt hurt that I just put up the McAdoo profile today.

I like it when the Bills make me look good! :D:

[k-oneputt]

The Bills make everyone loook good with all their ******ed draft picks this past decade.
Every Bills fan I know knew Maybin and Whitner were terrible picks.

Notice where the new regime is drafting their players from and more importantly where they are NOT drafting them from ?

[DraftBoy]

For those interested here is the BBD take on Maybin;
http://tinyurl.com/3dfk62z

[Spiderweb]

Nerf balls?? Lawn jarts are more like it.

Precisely..... I never thought another number pick could actually make Eric Flowers look good, but Maybin did.

Good luck at Wal-Mart, no heavy lifting needed as a greeter.

[trapezeus]

can we sign maybin back and then send him to baltimore as an FU to the ravens for only giving us a 4th for evans? "Thanks for screwing us with one pick, now you guys have maybin. Teaches you to F with us in the future."

[paladin warrior]

If Maybin gets cut does that mean theyll bring in someone else Yea Hopefully get O-Line

[ParanoidAndroid]

I would also like to hear Lavar Arrington explain why his little buddy sucks so bad.

[wozrob11]

i just cant get over the list of people we could of had i know hind sight is 20/20 but wow !Even if we needed the positions or not Brain Orakpo ,Malcom Jenkins, Brian Cushing, Josh Freeman, Jeremy Maclin(with or without the HIV) Percy Harvin, Michael Oher, Vontae Davis ,CLAY MATTHEWS!!!!!,Hakeem Nicks, i mean come on buffalo

[Extremebillsfan247]

Per Adam Schefter.Noooooooooooo... lol Now we have no comedy in camp. Booo.

[YardRat]

I'm not blaming the kid. He never lived up to the billing but he didn't ask to be drafted by the Bills. It was a wasted pick and will go down as probably the third worst ever by the team - at least he tried. Walt Patulski and Phil Dokes didn't even show.

Maybin is a worse pick than Patulski. He is pretty close to Dokes, though.

[baalworship]

Just to reiterate how bad a pick Maybin was I am watching Monday Night Football. This year's #11 overall pick was JJ Watt from Wisconsin and they say he has been unblockable in camp, looks good against the Jets.

JJ Watt, DE 290 lbs

Aaron Maybin, DE 235 lbs

Thank God Jauron and the Cover 2 are gone.

[DynaPaul]

Yes! Goodbye you stupid sack of ****e and thanks for taking Ralph's money!

[BillsFever21]

He ranks right up there with Mike Williams and Flowers.

Flowers was a late first round pick and at least we got some playing time out of Williams. Maybin was just a total wasted useless pick. Another great job by the Bills front office. You get what you pay for. Ralph pays for crap so we end up with crap.

[YardRat]

The last great 2 step process to get a player that we wanted in here was Bennett.

The 'bait and switch' to get Chandler away from Dallas last season was a pretty slick move...You have to at least admit that.

[Ickybaluky]

The 'bait and switch' to get Chandler away from Dallas last season was a pretty slick move...You have to at least admit that.

What "bait and switch". They claimed him off waivers.

[TacklingDummy]

I'll miss Maybins sack dance.

[psubills62]

After waiving OLB Aaron Maybin earlier in the day, Bills GM Buddy Nix told reporters Monday evening that he doesn't believe Maybin could fit any defensive scheme unless he moved to "strong safety or something."

Nix spoke of Maybin's limited size and strength, and his failure to keep weight on. Maybin reported to camp weighing in the 220s. He did draw high marks for effort in practice, but the Bills deemed him incapable of contributing in game situations. He'll be eligible for waiver claims until 4PM ET Tuesday.

From rotoworld.com

[alohabillsfan]

Epic fail on the FO and Maybin, now both have been held accountable, thats all we can ask for. I guess.

[kingJofNYC]

Strong safety....bahahaha

Say what you will about Nix, at least he's a good quote.

[trapezeus]

one day has gone by and now i feel kind of bad for maybin. universally, every report out is that he was a bust. and now, with twitter, he probably has heard from a lot of people he sucks. must kind of stink for him. i wish he could end up on the 49ers or something since that is where our defensive players (sans TKO) go to die a more humane NFL death.

[Oaf]

Nix is a dick.

Instead of blasting Maybin, he should have blasted the fools on payroll who picked him.

[Romes]

one day has gone by and now i feel kind of bad for maybin. universally, every report out is that he was a bust. and now, with twitter, he probably has heard from a lot of people he sucks. must kind of stink for him. i wish he could end up on the 49ers or something since that is where our defensive players (sans TKO) go to die a more humane NFL death.

I don't feel bad. He weighed 250 at the combine. Since then he couldn't top 230... something is fishy there. Either he was too lazy to diet and train properly to put on the weight or he had some sort of enhancement prior to the combine. He cashed in at about the only time he could of.

Bills fault for drafting him but I get the feeling he took advantage of the system.

[lightningbolt444]

Nix is a dick.

Instead of blasting Maybin, he should have blasted the fools on payroll who picked him.

He told it like it is. Thats not a dick move Maybin cant keep weight on. I am sure Maybin knew this for the past couple years he has just kept getting smaller and smaller.

This team is damned if the do and damned if they dont. Cut Maybin who is the biggest pile in recent memory and the FO still gets blasted by some.

Some people need to realize we didnt and dont have the talent of a New england , Philly , Indy , GB, etc. We cannot go out and grab every player over 30 for that extra push like New england that would set us back even farther in the long run.
We never were going to be good overnight or even in a season. I know it sucks waiting but this team was messed up so bad thats what it takes is time.

No one can deny that the d looks better so far. The o last season at times was very exciting. I see improvments and thats the sign of the FO doing SOME (not all) things right.

[Oaf]

Mayock was right:
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@lightning, you make good points. My issue is with the scouting dept that put him that far up there despite these flaws. (easily spot-able by a national analyst)

[trapezeus]

but the bills have kicked out jauron who they said was responsible for the majority of his picks during his time here and modrak, the guy who put the names in the hat for jauron to pick. they kicked out the FA guy who brought in mostly duds.

and last year, they may have very well missed on spiller, but seemed to get some good guys in troupe and carrington, moats and possibly easley (though i haven't seen it in him yet).

i do think the team is turning it around. but like a large cruise ship, it's taking time to make this thing do a 180.

[lightningbolt444]

Mayock was right:
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@lightning, you make good points. My issue is with the scouting dept that put him that far up there despite these flaws. (easily spot-able by a national analyst)

I 100% agree with that. He was a a boom or bust pick. Had he lived up to his potential I think we would have had a great pass rusher on our hands. But it was more of a risk than it would have been a reward so I agree that they dropped the ball as well.

The issue I have with Maybin is I think he like others have said played the system. He also knew his problems going into last season. If he really for some strange reason could not keep wieght on then he could have been like hey coach I want to stay after practice and do whatever I can to learn Saftey so I can help this team in any way that I can. In my mind he was under the wrong training and diet however as he seems to just get smaller the more he works out.

[Bill Cody]

People can say what they want about Nix. But there's no way he would have taken Maybin. He does not like small players. I hated the pick the second it was made for the same reason. Oh well it's over, you lance the boil and move on. But it still stings.

[Ed]

one day has gone by and now i feel kind of bad for maybin. universally, every report out is that he was a bust. and now, with twitter, he probably has heard from a lot of people he sucks. must kind of stink for him. i wish he could end up on the 49ers or something since that is where our defensive players (sans TKO) go to die a more humane NFL death.
I don't. He got millions of dollars guaranteed for having a good sophmore season at Penn St. He's financially set for life as long he didn't blow it all on bling and strippers in Puerto Rico.

I'd take a couple years of scrutiny and criticism if it meant I could retire at 23.

[mysticsoto]

I don't. He got millions of dollars guaranteed for having a good sophmore season at Penn St. He's financially set for life as long he didn't blow it all on bling and strippers in Puerto Rico.

I'd take a couple years of scrutiny and criticism if it meant I could retire at 23.

I believe it was $15 million guaranteed. :ill:

There should be a clause in contracts where players have to pay money back if they bust!

[methos4ever]

Mayock was right:
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@lightning, you make good points. My issue is with the scouting dept that put him that far up there despite these flaws. (easily spot-able by a national analyst)
If the Head coach is in control of the room as Jauron was, a scout has next to no voice. I'm sure DB can elaborate, but very few people talk about the inherent issues in any organization between coaching staff and scouts when it comes to the evaluation of players.

A lot of coaches look down on scouts because they feel the coaches' opinion should trump the scout and some scouts feel coaches who look at a guy for an hour have no basis on opinion compared to their 3+ years of scouting the same player.

[trapezeus]

money doesn't buy happiness. i don't think getting 2-3 years of intense media scrutiny and having things like twitter where the average fan can heckle you at all hours is worth it.

most humans will begin to feel the self doubt after years of that kind of scrutiny. crappy player, yes. does anyone deserve that, probably not.

[mysticsoto]

money doesn't buy happiness. i don't think getting 2-3 years of intense media scrutiny and having things like twitter where the average fan can heckle you at all hours is worth it.

most humans will begin to feel the self doubt after years of that kind of scrutiny. crappy player, yes. does anyone deserve that, probably not.

Ummm...I'd take the heckling for $15 million. Outside of Western NY, who the hell knows or cares about Maybin??? Close your twitter acct. Go for a vacation in the bahamas and laugh the criticisms off w/a pina colada. Then come back in the Spring (after winter) buy a mansion somewhere and find a hot babe to bang (with that kind of money, shouldn't be too hard).

Criticisms will barely be audible by then...but managed correctly, the money will be there for a lifetime.

[Bill Cody]

Ummm...I'd take the heckling for $15 million. Outside of Western NY, who the hell knows or cares about Maybin??? Close your twitter acct. Go for a vacation in the bahamas and laugh the criticisms off w/a pina colada. Then come back in the Spring (after winter) buy a mansion somewhere and find a hot babe to bang (with that kind of money, shouldn't be too hard).

Criticisms will barely be audible by then...but managed correctly, the money will be there for a lifetime.

So true. And was the media really that hard on him all things considered? I mean the guy made 15 large for 0 sacks! Is the press supposed to give him a hug and a trophy for participating? I have a feeling deep down he wasn't sure he would make it, that's why he held out for the last dollar he could. It paid off.

[Bill Cody]

money doesn't buy happiness.

Being broke doesn't either. And money at least rents happiness. I'll tell you what, if he used 10m on an annuity with the money, nothing fancy, he'd have a monthly payout of like 50k a MONTH for life. Does that guarantee happiness? No, but it's a pretty good start.