When did the Bills officially kill your optimism about the team?

[BillsOverDolphins]

Let me preface this by saying I'll always be a Bills fan (like all ya'll), but over the years I've become a bitter pessimist about the team--for good reason.

What moment made you snap and turn to the darkside?

For me, it was 2004 when we lost to the 3rd string Steelers at home, when a win would've put us in the playoffs. I was already numb by the time the 2008 collapse came around.

[dannyek71]

Re: When did the Bills officially kill your optimism about the team?

2005 season I think.

[EDS]

Re: When did the Bills officially kill your optimism about the team?

I think Ralph gave up after TD and Greg Williams did not work out. Ralph has not invested in a proper front office since and the results speak for themselves.

[BlackMetalNinja]

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I was holding on strong until after the 2009 season. Since then, I've been much more negative... Well, actually, I'll take that back. I've been much more indifferent. I just don't have the enthusiasm about the team that I used to.

[Jan Reimers]

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I've been a loyal fan from the first game in 1960. I have become increasingly dissatisfied over the last 11 bleak seasons, but it took me until the Evans' trade to realize just how incredibly F'ed up this organization is.

[OpIv37]

Re: When did the Bills officially kill your optimism about the team?

Let me preface this by saying I'll always be a Bills fan (like all ya'll), but over the years I've become a bitter pessimist about the team--for good reason.

What moment made you snap and turn to the darkside?

For me, it was 2004 when we lost to the 3rd string Steelers at home, when a win would've put us in the playoffs. I was already numb by the time the 2008 collapse came around.

For me, it was 2005 when we **** the bed after an encouraging end to 2004 (minus that Steelers game). But the real dagger was the Dallas loss on MNF in '07. Ever since that moment, losses just seem so inevitable.

[ddaryl]

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I renew my optimism every off season..

I like the Nix plan of building the majority of this team via draft and grooming our own and I like a lot of what I see right now. I like the Nix plan of not bringing in bloated salary demands of mediocre FA's that serve no purpose but to keep us entrenched in mediocrity.

you're not going to erase 10+ years of pathetic pre-Nix front office moves that brought us to the point where we are now.. Trying to rebuild a franchise that has seen numerous 1st rd picks wasted by those FO personnel that could of been and should of been making impacts on this team NOW...

all that being said.. depth at a few positions is weak, and the OL definitely needs to be upgraded. However bringing in marginal aging vets isn't the answer... neither is bringing in troubled players who have chronic issues...

if this team looks like crap early in the season then I will start tuning them out, tivo games and decide afterwards if I really want to watch them and will start following the Sabres more and wait till next year yet again.. rinse and repeat

the moment I stop being a Bills fan is when the Buffalo no longer proceeds Bills.. until then I start every year optimistic

[OpIv37]

Re: When did the Bills officially kill your optimism about the team?

the moment I stop being a Bills fan is when the Buffalo no longer proceeds Bills.. until then I start every year optimistic

being a fan has nothing to do with being optimistic.

[wmoz11]

Re: When did the Bills officially kill your optimism about the team?

I'm still optimistic when a new season starts, but much, much less so ever since the 2004 game vs the Steelers. I had the misfortune of being at that game with my best friend who happens to be a Steelers fan.

[BillsOverDolphins]

Re: When did the Bills officially kill your optimism about the team?

I'm still optimistic when a new season starts, but much, much less so ever since the 2004 game vs the Steelers. I had the misfortune of being at that game with my best friend who happens to be a Steelers fan.

ouch...If I was in your shoes I'd probably be on non-speaking terms with your friend now

[The King]

Re: When did the Bills officially kill your optimism about the team?

The decision to go with Losman over Bledsoe.

[bf1]

Re: When did the Bills officially kill your optimism about the team?

2009 offseason when they did absolutely nothing in free agency except Owens at the last minute. Then Buddy Nix's company line of "build through the draft" as an excuse to be cheap in free agency.

[Mski]

Re: When did the Bills officially kill your optimism about the team?

I'm still optimistic when a new season starts, but much, much less so ever since the 2004 game vs the Steelers. I had the misfortune of being at that game with my best friend who happens to be a Steelers fan.

that was one of the years we had season tickets, and there was a group of steelers fans, that i used to work with, that had season tickets the row infrot of us. i didnt hear the end of that for months

[TrEd FTW]

Re: When did the Bills officially kill your optimism about the team?

2008 collapse. I care so much less now than I did then.

[wmoz11]

Re: When did the Bills officially kill your optimism about the team?

that was one of the years we had season tickets, and there was a group of steelers fans, that i used to work with, that had season tickets the row infrot of us. i didnt hear the end of that for months

I still hear about it. At least you guys are surrounded by Bills fans most of the time. I know about 3 and everyone else loves the Eagles or Steelers. I've been verbally abused my whole life about this damn team.

Luckily when my friend sarcastically asked me what stud we'd draft with that 4th we got for Evans I told him probably someone similar to what the Steelers drafted for the pick they got for Holmes, SB MVP.

Didn't hear back.