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  • Mike
    Registered User
    • Jan 2009
    • 3805

    The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

    Here is a short synopsis of the Bills. I know many of you billieve that the Bills will go 19-0 etc... and that we are great, etc.... but here is a more realistic projection and assessment of our strengths and weaknesses.

    Defense:

    The Good:
    D-Line: looks to be much improved. If 'Lights Out' is nearly as good as he once was, watch out! The pass rush could be fund to watch!

    The Bad:
    3 New LBers, one of which is a rookie, could spell trouble. There will be a learning curve, however our LBers last year were by no means great, catching up to that talentless unit won't be hard to achieve. Expect to see them turn the corner and match last season by week 8.

    The Ugly
    Our secondary is going to suck. I remember a couple of years ago, many on here thought we would have the best secondary in the NFL, a year after drafting Mckelvin. Ha! Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Here we are a few years later, and this is one of the weakest parts of the defense. Their starters are average with McGee getting older and McKelvin being servicable. Safties are going to be bottom of the league. On the positive there is good dept at DB. Overall don't let last year's number fool you. Opponents will be able to pass on this team.

    The Offense

    The Good
    Finally the Bills have a Poor Mans Offense. At least its an offense. They are by no means the fastest, the strongest, or the best. Every good offensive piece is second rate and there are no super stars here. QB Fitz lacks in physical prowess but makes up for it in his decision making and savvy. WR Johnson is not the fastest, the biggest, the quickest WR however he knows how to get open. RB Fred Jackson is no different than the rest. He can often make something out of nothing, somehow he finds a hole, he is elusive and has very subtle, yet effective cuts. He is not the fastest, strongest, or most dynamic running back, but he is the epitome of the Best the Bills have to offer. Watch them move the ball and at times dominate, however they will never be great.

    The Bad
    Spiller and the TE. He is a poor mans Reggie Bush. Like his predecessor, he was highly thought off coming out of college. He was labeled for greatness, for rookie of the year, etc... however he can not run between the Tackles, nor can he finds/create a whole which is not obvious. Look for him to add out of the backfield, however if his season is anything like last year, the bad will become the ugly. TE need to improve dramatically. Bare minimum, can the Bills get a full season from any of their TE?

    The Ugly
    O-Line has been a disaster for many many years and this year its no different. Ironically, the line has regresses, it has gotten worst over the years. Tackles suck, Guards are average at best, and the Center -Wood- is getting his first shot at Center at the NFL level.

    The Offense will go only as far as this O-Line, which may be the difference between scoring a lot and not scoring at all. We will have games this year where the Offense looks great, and then games where the offense will have trouble getting a field goal. If the Bills offense was a stock, it would be highly volatile. Why such huge swings back and forth? Simple, against the better pass rushes in the league the Offense will struggle big time.
    Last edited by Mike; 08-30-2011, 11:23 PM.
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  • B-DON
    hi
    • Mar 2004
    • 1985

    #2
    Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

    Lol at spiller being bad. This line is **** and he's played like 50 live snaps. Give it some time. He will be fine. And to say Johnson is a second rate wr is just laughable. Also the dude is 6'2". How big do you want him to be?
    Last edited by B-DON; 08-30-2011, 11:48 PM.

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    • Mike
      Registered User
      • Jan 2009
      • 3805

      #3
      Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

      Special Teams

      The Good

      Our kicker is still very reliable.

      The Bad


      Our returns will get worst this year, as every other teams. Kicking from the 35 will further impact a return unit that use to be one of the best which has quickly found themselves regressing to the middle of the pack. Now you see what a huge difference a great coach makes.

      The Ugly
      This will be the year that our opponents begin to return punts and kick offs for major yardage and touchdowns. Remember 99?
      Please Make Sense

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      • Mike
        Registered User
        • Jan 2009
        • 3805

        #4
        Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

        Lol at spiller being bad. This line is **** and he's played like 50 live snaps. Give it some time. He will be fine. And to say Johnson is a second rate wr is just laughable. Also the dude is 6'2". How big do you want him to be?
        When you look at those 50 snaps you will see the majority produced little results. For someone who was as highly glamoured coming out, he has achieved very little. People say he has amazing talent and ability and potential just like they did for Bush. Fans were ready to crown him the next great back and compared to expectations he has grossly underperformed. If any of the top backs had a 800yrd season, people would say that they had a bad year. Spiller had a bad year last year, so he stays in the Bad Category until he proves otherwise.
        Please Make Sense

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        • Beebe's Kid
          Registered User
          • Nov 2009
          • 3134

          #5
          Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

          Thank you, ol'wise one for being the voice of reason. Thank you so much. I hope you didn't miss the call from ESPN while writing this.

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          • delectrolux
            Registered User
            • May 2007
            • 199

            #6
            Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

            Originally posted by Mike
            O-Line has been a disaster for many many years and this year its no different. Ironically, the line has regresses, it has gotten worst over the years.
            That's not ironic at all.
            Last edited by delectrolux; 08-31-2011, 01:03 AM.

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            • tomz
              Registered User
              • Feb 2007
              • 1786

              #7
              Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

              I take issue with the common comment here that Spiller cannot 'run between the tackles.' He looked much improved in that regard in preseason--indeed, I do not think he tried to break it outside even once except for the time he was caught in a jailbreak when the DT/DE could almost have taken the hand off. He looked fast in executing a one-cut run between the tackles. Of course, he will never be a power back but did anyone really expect that? Finally, we did not see him targeted in the passing game this preseason. I think he will be fine.

              While I do have some skepticism about how tings will turn out this year, I think your analysis is overly pessimistic.

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              • dog14787
                Registered User
                • Oct 2010
                • 1701

                #8
                Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

                The Good The top 4 teams in the AFC/ top 4 teams in the NFC/ give away/ take away (2010)

                AFC

                Patriots +28
                Steelers +17
                Chiefs +9
                Jets +9

                NFC

                Falcons +14
                Packers +10 Champions
                Eagles +9
                Buc's +9

                The Bad On the other end of the spectrum/ Buffalo Bills /worse team in the NFL/ net - 17


                The Ugly Fitzpatrick in a career 41 games played has thrown 42 INT's and fumbled the football 25 times. In 13 games during the 2010 season Fitzpatrick threw 15 INT's and had 8 fumbles.


                Keeping it real...
                Last edited by Figster; 08-31-2011, 05:41 AM.

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                • JCBills
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 3631

                  #9
                  Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

                  Originally posted by Mike
                  Here is a short synopsis of the Bills. I know many of you billieve that the Bills will go 19-0 etc... and that we are great, etc.... but here is a more realistic projection and assessment of our strengths and weaknesses.

                  Defense:

                  The Good:
                  D-Line: looks to be much improved. If 'Lights Out' is nearly as good as he once was, watch out! The pass rush could be fund to watch!

                  The Bad:
                  3 New LBers, one of which is a rookie, could spell trouble. There will be a learning curve, however our LBers last year were by no means great, catching up to that talentless unit won't be hard to achieve. Expect to see them turn the corner and match last season by week 8.

                  The Ugly
                  Our secondary is going to suck. I remember a couple of years ago, many on here thought we would have the best secondary in the NFL, a year after drafting Mckelvin. Ha! Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Here we are a few years later, and this is one of the weakest parts of the defense. Their starters are average with McGee getting older and McKelvin being servicable. Safties are going to be bottom of the league. On the positive there is good dept at DB. Overall don't let last year's number fool you. Opponents will be able to pass on this team.

                  The Offense

                  The Good
                  Finally the Bills have a Poor Mans Offense. At least its an offense. They are by no means the fastest, the strongest, or the best. Every good offensive piece is second rate and there are no super stars here. QB Fitz lacks in physical prowess but makes up for it in his decision making and savvy. WR Johnson is not the fastest, the biggest, the quickest WR however he knows how to get open. RB Fred Jackson is no different than the rest. He can often make something out of nothing, somehow he finds a hole, he is elusive and has very subtle, yet effective cuts. He is not the fastest, strongest, or most dynamic running back, but he is the epitome of the Best the Bills have to offer. Watch them move the ball and at times dominate, however they will never be great.

                  The Bad
                  Spiller and the TE. He is a poor mans Reggie Bush. Like his predecessor, he was highly thought off coming out of college. He was labeled for greatness, for rookie of the year, etc... however he can not run between the Tackles, nor can he finds/create a whole which is not obvious. Look for him to add out of the backfield, however if his season is anything like last year, the bad will become the ugly. TE need to improve dramatically. Bare minimum, can the Bills get a full season from any of their TE?

                  The Ugly
                  O-Line has been a disaster for many many years and this year its no different. Ironically, the line has regresses, it has gotten worst over the years. Tackles suck, Guards are average at best, and the Center -Wood- is getting his first shot at Center at the NFL level.

                  The Offense will go only as far as this O-Line, which may be the difference between scoring a lot and not scoring at all. We will have games this year where the Offense looks great, and then games where the offense will have trouble getting a field goal. If the Bills offense was a stock, it would be highly volatile. Why such huge swings back and forth? Simple, against the better pass rushes in the league the Offense will struggle big time.
                  "Samsonite....I was way off!"

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                  • Jeff1220
                    H to the 12:20
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 6136

                    #10
                    Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

                    Originally posted by Mike
                    I know many of you billieve that the Bills will go 19-0 etc... and that we are great, etc
                    You must not know this board very well.

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                    • Historian
                      2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 61707

                      #11
                      Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

                      I think the secondary will be better than expected, with a better pass rush.

                      I'd like to see Byrd return to his old form.

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                      • Mike
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3805

                        #12
                        Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

                        You must not know this board very well.
                        I was being sarcastic. there is at least 1 person every year that predicts 19-0.
                        Please Make Sense

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                        • Mike
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3805

                          #13
                          Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

                          That's not ironic at all.
                          your right, its not ironic. what is ironic is my misuse of the word.
                          Please Make Sense

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                          • Mike
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 3805

                            #14
                            Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

                            Today's Gold

                            The Good:
                            Both Lines were solid. The D-line contained one of the elite backs in the NFL. The offense was very explosive & defense held their own.

                            The Bad:
                            Moorman only punted a few times, hope the coverage unit is not out of practice.... jk

                            The Ugly
                            Mariman might be injured.
                            Last edited by Mike; 09-12-2011, 01:27 AM.
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                            • TMu11
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 1560

                              #15
                              Re: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

                              Has proof reading gone out of style?
                              After Every Dark Night Comes a Brighter Day

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