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  • Night Train
    Retired - On Several Levels
    • Jul 2005
    • 33117

    Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling



    Bills 29th in Payroll

    Top Salary Cap Figures for 2011

    1. T.McGee - 5.4 Mil
    2. K. Williams- 4.9
    3. Kelsay - 4.5
    4. Fitz - 4.2
    5. Merriman - 4.2
    6. D. Florence - 4.1
    7. Spencer Johnson - 4.0
    8. D. Edwards - 3.9
    9. Dareus - 3.7
    10. Barnett - 3.5
    11. Hangartner - 3.4
    12. Brad Smith - 3.2

    Cuts coming later today. Draw your own conclusions.
    Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit
  • Jan Reimers
    Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
    • May 2003
    • 17353

    #2
    Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

    I wouldn't be surprised to see McGee, Spencer Johnson and Hangartner gone. They are basically expensive backups on a team where money enters the equation more than it does with successful teams.

    I guess Kelsay stays because of his pictures of Ralph with the donkey.
    Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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    • The Compromise
      Junior Zoner
      • May 2007
      • 44

      #3
      Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

      Originally posted by Jan Reimers
      I guess Kelsay stays because of his pictures of Ralph with the donkey.
      LOL

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      • Novacane
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 42355

        #4
        Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

        Those are our best players? No wonder we suck! As much as I think the Bills are cheap I have no problem with them cutting McGee. Get rid of Kelsay and Hangartner too.

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        • kishoph
          Registered User
          • Jun 2003
          • 3157

          #5
          Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

          I didn't think FITZ was making that much this season, I thought he was making less than both THIGPEN and SMITH.

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          • Night Train
            Retired - On Several Levels
            • Jul 2005
            • 33117

            #6
            Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

            I wouldn't be too happy to see Spencer Johnson cut. He has played VERY well all summer and has been a force.
            Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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            • SabreEleven
              Registered User
              • Aug 2002
              • 39563

              #7
              Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

              Originally posted by Jan Reimers
              I wouldn't be surprised to see McGee, Spencer Johnson and Hangartner gone. They are basically expensive backups on a team where money enters the equation more than it does with successful teams.

              I guess Kelsay stays because of his pictures of Ralph with the donkey.
              The whole team is nothing but backups.

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              • Italian Stallion
                Knows More Than You
                • Feb 2004
                • 1136

                #8
                Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

                This list is incorrect...every one of those guys has been reported with a lower cap number than this by rotoworld, which is usually spot on
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                • Night Train
                  Retired - On Several Levels
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 33117

                  #9
                  Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

                  Originally posted by Italian Stallion
                  This list is incorrect...every one of those guys has been reported with a lower cap number than this by rotoworld, which is usually spot on
                  I have the paper edition of this mornings Buff News and it's right on the front page of the Sports section. I just copied it.
                  Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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                  • Ickybaluky
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 8884

                    #10
                    Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

                    Originally posted by kishoph
                    I didn't think FITZ was making that much this season, I thought he was making less than both THIGPEN and SMITH.
                    That isn't how much he is making this season, it is his cap number. It includes his salary and amortized signing bonus.

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                    • alohabillsfan
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 3206

                      #11
                      Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

                      A truley amazing insight... The dead horse has now been completelt beaten beyond recognition...

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                      • Ickybaluky
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 8884

                        #12
                        Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

                        Originally posted by Italian Stallion
                        This list is incorrect...every one of those guys has been reported with a lower cap number than this by rotoworld, which is usually spot on
                        Rotoworld lists salaries, not cap numbers. The Buffalo News numbers come from NFLPA cap reports and are very accurate.

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                        • Jan Reimers
                          Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                          • May 2003
                          • 17353

                          #13
                          Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

                          Originally posted by Novacane
                          Those are our best players? No wonder we suck! As much as I think the Bills are cheap I have no problem with them cutting McGee. Get rid of Kelsay and Hangartner too.
                          The problem is, we're more likely to keep Kelsay and dump Spencer Johnson. Cutting McGee I don't mind, either, but Hangartner is a valuable backup at both center and guard.

                          I'll be intersted to see the correlation of cuts to contracts.
                          Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                          • Ickybaluky
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 8884

                            #14
                            Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

                            I thought this quote would get more play:

                            "From a league perspective, cash to cap has been the norm for several years," said Bills Chief Executive Officer Russ Brandon. "Mortgaging the future prematurely is not a smart way to manage your business. We look at cash to cap as a roster-discipline tool. It is not a budget tool. It's our commitment to try to have long-term sustained success."
                            If the way they manage their cap is their commitment to long-term sustained success you might wonder if it is working.

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                            • Ickybaluky
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 8884

                              #15
                              Re: Gaughans Buff News Article This Morning Very Telling

                              Originally posted by Jan Reimers
                              I'll be intersted to see the correlation of cuts to contracts.
                              In general, any cuts done now will save money this year, in both cash and cap terms, but there will be dead money cap charges next year for any acceleration for remaining signing bonus.

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