Sabres aquire Delmore

[Numero2]

for a 3rd round pick in '04


:pray: I hope he can get 14pp goals for us too




http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=sabresdelmoretrade&prov=st&type=lgns

[Sabre Ally]

Awesome. He's much better on the power play than Zhitnik.

[Ð]

Stats for a guy who played on a baaaaaaad team can be distorted/misleading, but he did play in North Bay for two years, so he can't be that bad.

[qcsabresfan84]

I have been a fan of this kid since he played with the Flyers against us in the playoffs in 1999. He is really exiting to watch out on the ice.

[chubluv]

I like the trade.... Plus i had in fantasy hockey two years ago b4 he got hurt & he was getting points almost every night!!

[Ð]

He had one of the worst +/- on the Predators. I wouldn't get too excited.

[Typ0]

Shut up poster formerly known as BigDoug we need something to be excited about and we are going to be excited about this :tongue:

[Numero2]

I think it is interesting that people want to hang this guys +/- on him even though he was on a bad team. Does that mean that people wouldnt want Dany Heatley? I mean he is a -27 over his first 2 years. Doesn't matter right that he has over 60 goals in those two season. 14pp goals on a bad team??? Yeah you bet I am gonna get excited over Delmore!!!

[Ð]

+/- is about the only stat that you can hang on someone on a really bad team, because it's relative to everyone else. No matter how you slice it -17 is a pathetic stat, when the predators are mostly around -1 +1 or so, especially considering he's a defenseman.

He was a liability every time he stepped on the ice, that's why they dealt him.

[qcsabresfan84]

They traded Delmore because they had just re-signed Mark Eaton and Tomas Kloucek. Delmore became expendable. And a -17 on the Predators is a lot different than a -17 on the Stars for example. Delmore was on the ice with 4 other guys most of the time, so a +/- stat is less accurate about a players skill when they're on a crappy team.

[Dozerdog]

Take Dellmore and any other defenseman on the Predators, and swap his ice time, the situations they put him in, the lines he matched up with and everything else.

Then compare what the other player's +/- would have been. Give Andy only 10 minutes a game against a team's 3rd and 4th lines and I'll bet he's not -17.

What are ya, a frozen version of Wys? ;)

[Dozerdog]

http://kimshockey.com/pix/np/delmore02.jpg

[SkateZilla]

Still

Were a Some What Defensive Team.

If You Play For a Bad Team Everyones Stats will be Butt.

He Had Better Stats Than All Of Our Defensemen

[SkateZilla]

its just goes to show you GOLISANO is Cleaning Up.

[Ð]

Whatever...

He was last place +/- for defensemen on the predators (there are 8 predator defensemen on the team with better +/-) and bottom 10 % in the league. Also, their goalie (Vokun) had a reg season GAA average comparable to Giggy or Balfour, so it's easy too see who stood out like a sore thumb on the blueline for the Predators.

As a young defenseman coming into the league, you want to build a base as a defensive player and then branch out as a scorer.

In the pros a player like that is a coaches worst nightmare.

[SkateZilla]

well..

change is what GOLISANO is trying to do..

we got the old UNI's back (i think) so i guess he trying to change the way the team plays..

we have had a nice defense.. we just to to top it off with Biron Coming into his own ...

alot of goals i saw on empire sports on the other teams power play were through the 5 - hole.
and the other lets say about 11% of the goals were just because the defense let 5 all 5 guys Have at Biron by his lone some..

[yle]

This guy will be an upgrade over anyone else we have on the power play. During interviews when asked about his plus minus, Darcy said something like we think we can help him with that, and if he wasn't a -17 he would have cost several million dollars more per year. Personally, I don't care if he sits on the bench and only plays on the power play. That has been a weak spot on this team for too long, and they needed to address it somehow.

[Ð]

You get what you pay for

[qcsabresfan84]

Bottom Line: Delmore had 15 more goals than our best defenseman, Zhitnik, and 13 more points. Besides, offensive defensemen generally don't have a great +/-, that's the price you pay for a goal-scoring defenseman.

[Ð]

Offensive defensemen :rofl:

[Earthquake Enyart]

Dougie, he led NHL defensemen in goals last year.

At least we now have a guy who can put a puck on the net on the PP. The current croud is pathetic.

Don't be so surpised if Zhitnik stays and someone else goes (McKee, Warrenner)

[Ð]

No, I was laughing at the oxymoron.

[Ð]

And I'm still laughing :rofl:

[Ð]

:lmao:

[JD]

:violin:

[fushetti]

bye bye andy