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  • BUFF Bills
    Registered User
    • Feb 2009
    • 107

    Sell the Bills to the FANS?

    I have a question for you guys - what is stopping the Bills from adopting a similar ownership system that the Green Bay Packers employ, meaning, sell the team to the fans. I was thinking to myself earlier, why couldn't Jim Kelly and/or whoever, buy majority in the team's stock, and sell the rest to the fans of the Buffalo Bills around the country?

    To my knowledge this has never been a topic of discussion and I'm wondering why. Any input?
  • MikeInRoch
    Registered User
    • Sep 2003
    • 10446

    #2
    Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

    It really would be nice if you had done some research before posting this. It's against the NFL bylaws now.
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    • BUFF Bills
      Registered User
      • Feb 2009
      • 107

      #3
      Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

      that was my question, i had a feeling this was the case but didn't think about looking it up...

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      • imbondz
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        • Jan 2003
        • 26041

        #4
        Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

        Originally posted by MikeInRoch
        It really would be nice if you had done some research before posting this. It's against the NFL bylaws now.
        seriously? so people can't ask questions here. we all should be in the know about everything.
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        • ELAYAS
          Registered User
          • Sep 2008
          • 300

          #5
          Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

          Originally posted by imbondz
          seriously? so people can't ask questions here. we all should be in the know about everything.
          yeah seriously!

          It really would be nice if you had done some research before asking if it was serious...



          Edit: I'm joking, in case anyone missed it
          Last edited by ELAYAS; 10-20-2011, 05:28 AM.

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          • YardRat
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            • Dec 2004
            • 86147

            #6
            Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

            It would be nice if the league would reverse the rule and allow more communities to own teams. Hell, we already pay for the stadiums, and one might be able to argue everything else in a less direct fashion.
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            • Dujek
              Hall of Fame Zoner
              • Jan 2008
              • 7806

              #7
              Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

              I really don't understand why the league won't allow community ownership. Other than the fact it would stop the likes of Jimmy Jones forcing other teams to move simply because it might make him more money.

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              • better days
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                • Jan 2010
                • 22028

                #8
                Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

                Originally posted by Dujek
                I really don't understand why the league won't allow community ownership. Other than the fact it would stop the likes of Jimmy Jones forcing other teams to move simply because it might make him more money.
                That sounds about right.

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                • PromoTheRobot
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                  • Sep 2003
                  • 2311

                  #9
                  Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

                  Seriously, someone brings this up at least once every two weeks.

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                  • MikeInRoch
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                    • Sep 2003
                    • 10446

                    #10
                    Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

                    Originally posted by imbondz
                    seriously? so people can't ask questions here. we all should be in the know about everything.
                    How would it be if someone asked every week for the rest of the year then?
                    "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

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                    • Dozerdog
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 42586

                      #11
                      Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

                      Because the NFL wants to move teams if they have to.


                      Imagine Jacksonville - if they went 2-14 ten years in a row and averaged 25,000 in attendance every season- but the team couldn't move them to LA or some other energized city - or even to an owner that wants to sink money into it (Like the NFL version of Pegula).

                      They don't want the product stagnating because of public ownership.
                      Last edited by Dozerdog; 10-20-2011, 08:19 AM.

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                      • Stewie
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                        • Aug 2002
                        • 11567

                        #12
                        Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

                        I am not a lawyer, but it's very possible that there's either a loophole around the bylaws, or that the bylaws are illegal in the first place.

                        See Genevieve F.E. Birren, NFL vs. Sherman Act: How the NFL’s Ban on Public Ownership Violates Federal Antitrust Laws, 11 Sports Law. J. 121 (2004).

                        Also, last year the supremes ruled the NFL is not a single entity, as they had previously argued, but in fact 32 separate teams (plus the league, so 33 entities.)

                        The very first line o fthe sherman antitrust act reads:

                        "Every contract, combination in the form of trust or otherwise, or conspiracy, in restraint of trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, is declared to be illegal"

                        Again, I'm not a lawyer, but it sure seems l ike preventing the Bills to sell to whomever they want is a "consipracy in restraint of trade or commerce". Maybe some team will try to make that argument one day.
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                        • psubills62
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 11295

                          #13
                          Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

                          Originally posted by YardRat
                          It would be nice if the league would reverse the rule and allow more communities to own teams. Hell, we already pay for the stadiums, and one might be able to argue everything else in a less direct fashion.
                          Like this:
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                          • Dujek
                            Hall of Fame Zoner
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 7806

                            #14
                            Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

                            Collective bargaining is against anti-trust rules too, as is the salary cap.

                            The league has an anti-trust exemption, and therefore can do pretty much whatever the **** they want.

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                            • ddaryl
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                              • Jan 2005
                              • 10714

                              #15
                              Re: Sell the Bills to the FANS?

                              Originally posted by Dujek
                              Collective bargaining is against anti-trust rules too, as is the salary cap.

                              The league has an anti-trust exemption, and therefore can do pretty much whatever the **** they want.

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