If Dareus Pans Out at NT and Kyle Comes Back

[ghz in pittsburgh]

I know Kyle just signed a big contract. But let's face it, the staff intend on running 3-4 and have drafted so consistently.

Kyle Williams can net us a low 1st round pick. We just might get a QB we want to develop in those spots.

Of course, it depends on Dareus and the rest DL to play well. For two years, Nix tried to rebuild our D-Line and we are sort of seeing it now. Carrington, Dareus, Edwards. With a depth of Troup, Heard, and Spencer Johnson (who is a better fit at 3-4 DE). We are seeing the change of the guards here.

[jamze132]

Re: If Dareus Pans Out at NT and Kyle Comes Back

Easy killer.

I would rather have 2 Pro Bowl caliber DTs than 1. I'm sure most teams would too.

[Mahdi]

Re: If Dareus Pans Out at NT and Kyle Comes Back

I know Kyle just signed a big contract. But let's face it, the staff intend on running 3-4 and have drafted so consistently.

Kyle Williams can net us a low 1st round pick. We just might get a QB we want to develop in those spots.

Of course, it depends on Dareus and the rest DL to play well. For two years, Nix tried to rebuild our D-Line and we are sort of seeing it now. Carrington, Dareus, Edwards. With a depth of Troup, Heard, and Spencer Johnson (who is a better fit at 3-4 DE). We are seeing the change of the guards here.

Heard was playing NT though. Dareus was at DE.

[Bangarang]

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Heard was playing NT though. Dareus was at DE.

Dareus started at NT and played much of the game there.

[THATHURMANATOR]

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Why trade Williams? Keep them both obviously....

[SquishDaFish]

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Hell NO! Williams can play DE. NEVER trade either of them. Both elite

[ghz in pittsburgh]

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Kyle Williams is elite at 4-3 under tackle. I don't know that he is elite at 3-4 NT.

So when the Bills go to 4-3 mode, he'll be at his best. But we know the majority of the time, we are playing 3-4.

The way I see it, this team is continue to draft 3-4 players and I certainly see the focus will be on linebacker positions the next draft. people like Kelsay will be gradually phased out.

Kyle Williams is a pro-ball player, just not at his best for the system the Bills deploy and I don't think he's a player you build your defense on. Dareus is potentially one, though.

We'll see how the staff use Kyle Williams. I know Belichick in NE mixed up his staple of DT/DE very well during their peak years. I just know so far in the first 5 games, our D-line was not as effective as we had hoped.

[clumping platelets]

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I would only consider trading Kyle Williams if we got a player of equal value in return at a position of need (LB, OL, DB, etc)

[Philagape]

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I think we're overconcerned about players being categorized in certain positions. The Bills this year have shown a lot of looks on the line, a lot of player combos.
I don't see how anyone can call them a prototypical 3-4, with all the times the outside "linebackers" have been on the line on all fours.

[Ebenezer]

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Amen. Half of the league is using a 3-4 variant that actually puts the equivilant of four DL on the field. The Bills are technically playing a 5-2 with 2 standing ends (which is actually a varient on an older style of defense). The NT in essence is a NG with two DTs and two standing DEs. If it works they could wear pink tutus for all I care.

[OpIv37]

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And there's no way we'd get a 1st round pick for Kyle anyway.

The only team that trades first-round picks for existing players is the Oakland Raiders, and they're out of first-round picks until like 2020.

[methos4ever]

Re: If Dareus Pans Out at NT and Kyle Comes Back

Kyle Williams is elite at 4-3 under tackle. I don't know that he is elite at 3-4 NT.

So when the Bills go to 4-3 mode, he'll be at his best. But we know the majority of the time, we are playing 3-4.

The way I see it, this team is continue to draft 3-4 players and I certainly see the focus will be on linebacker positions the next draft. people like Kelsay will be gradually phased out.

Kyle Williams is a pro-ball player, just not at his best for the system the Bills deploy and I don't think he's a player you build your defense on. Dareus is potentially one, though.

We'll see how the staff use Kyle Williams. I know Belichick in NE mixed up his staple of DT/DE very well during their peak years. I just know so far in the first 5 games, our D-line was not as effective as we had hoped.

We can still run 3-4 over and under and use both Dareus at NT and Kyle at 3 tech and be a penetrating 3-4 like Wade had here. No trade needed. If anything we get more pressure!

[Skooby]

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Trading away a pro-bowl player in a hope that a different / better player can be drafted at another position ? Are you kidding me here ?

[Saratoga Slim]

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Guys, Kyle Williams made the Pro Bowl last year in our current system. Let's not translate this year's performance, while he's been playing hurt, into evidence that he can't perform at a top level in our system. To me, he's already proven he can. And he's still young.

Kyle Williams is not a guy you trade for a draft pick.

[Pinkerton Security]

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What makes you think we can get a 1st rounder for Kyle? When Shaun Rogers was at the top of his game and was one of the dominant DT's in the NFL, the compensation was a 3rd rounder and leigh bodden. I dont think we'd get anything close to a 1st and prolly not even a 2nd rounder.

Just because we have 2 good players at 1 position doesnt mean we need to trade one of them. Also, Dareus can play 3-4 end so I personally think it would be terrible to trade away one of our most consistent players, and one that seems to actually want to be in Buffalo.