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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101288

    Ugly win against Montreal

    I never know what to think about games like this.

    One one hand, the 3rd period was probably the most dominant period I've seen from the Sabres yet. Lindy made a great call putting Vanek, Roy and Pominville together- I hope he doesn't stick with it long-term because it makes our lines very lopsided, but it's what we needed tonight.

    Enroth definitely came to play. And for all the criticism I've given to Vanek over the years, he's ridiculous on the shootout. Nothing fancy- just blasts a wrist shot past the goalie and makes it look easy every time.

    And we got the 2 points on the road.

    On the other hand, we looked amateurish and unprepared for the first two periods. Enroth was the only one who came to play. As bad as Myers has been, I don't know why he was in the press box while Leopold was playing because Leopold was absolutely brutal. Even Regehr screwed up on the 2nd goal, doubling the guy with the puck while two Habs stood open on the other side.

    We gave up a goal while on the PK to one of the worst PP teams in the league, and our PP failed to score on the 4 on 3 despite two chances totaling almost 4 min of playing time.

    And because we showed up 2 periods late, we gave up the extra point to an EC team for the 3rd time in 5 games.

    We got the win, but we didn't play well against a very average Montreal team. I know I'll probably take **** for complaining about a win, but just for once, try not to look at it in terms of this game but in terms of the overall picture. This team has shown some major flaws, many of which have carried over from previous years. And we don't get to play teams that are at Montreal's level or worse. If we put up that kind of effort against Pittsburgh, Philly, Washington, Tampa Bay, even Toronto or the Rangers (not to mention 1/2 the Western conference), we lose.
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  • jcdavey
    Registered User
    • Dec 2006
    • 551

    #2
    Re: Ugly win against Montreal

    my habs get pretty soft with leads

    it's sickening

    but that said, i'm glad they're playing better than the first couple weeks of the season


    that cole on enroth hit looked pretty nasty

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    • Jan Reimers
      Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
      • May 2003
      • 17353

      #3
      Re: Ugly win against Montreal

      Sometimes, Op, you should just enjoy the win.

      The third period and the SO were things of beauty.
      Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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      • Dr. Lecter
        Zero for Zero!
        • Mar 2003
        • 67939

        #4
        Re: Ugly win against Montreal

        They won and are one point out of first in the East. All of that despite not playing their best yet.

        Methinks you need to look at the big picture.

        And, maybe, just maybe, admit that Vanek does not suck at scoring goals. He is one of the best goal scorers in the NHL.

        You always say there is never anything good in a loss. If that is true, back off *****ing about wins. You always say that is all you want of the team. So they win and you still are not happy.
        Originally posted by mysticsoto
        Lecter is right in everything he said.

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        • TheGhostofJimKelly
          Registered User
          • May 2003
          • 12459

          #5
          Re: Ugly win against Montreal

          Ugly win, no consistency from their top players, no heart, they are in first place in the division. I wonder what will happen when they get those things in a line.

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          • Dr. Lecter
            Zero for Zero!
            • Mar 2003
            • 67939

            #6
            Re: Ugly win against Montreal

            And, fwiw, the PK is 3rd in the league and the PP 11th.
            Originally posted by mysticsoto
            Lecter is right in everything he said.

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            • Dr. Lecter
              Zero for Zero!
              • Mar 2003
              • 67939

              #7
              Re: Ugly win against Montreal

              As for consistency - Vanek has goals in 8 different games. That is tied for 3rd in the NHL.

              He has played in 17 games. In the first 6 games he had 3 goals. In the next 6 he had 4 goals. In the last 5 he has 4 goals.

              Pretty consistent.
              Originally posted by mysticsoto
              Lecter is right in everything he said.

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              • SabreEleven
                Registered User
                • Aug 2002
                • 39563

                #8
                Re: Ugly win against Montreal

                I'd like to know what was said between the 2nd and 3rd because that looked like a totally different team in the 3rd.

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                • MitchMurrayDowntown
                  Skoobasaurus-Rex
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 22284

                  #9
                  Re: Ugly win against Montreal

                  Who were those 3rd period guys ??

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                  • TheGhostofJimKelly
                    Registered User
                    • May 2003
                    • 12459

                    #10
                    Re: Ugly win against Montreal

                    Originally posted by Dr. Lecter
                    As for consistency - Vanek has goals in 8 different games. That is tied for 3rd in the NHL.

                    He has played in 17 games. In the first 6 games he had 3 goals. In the next 6 he had 4 goals. In the last 5 he has 4 goals.

                    Pretty consistent.
                    That was me being sarcastic BTW.

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                    • Dr. Lecter
                      Zero for Zero!
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 67939

                      #11
                      Re: Ugly win against Montreal

                      I know.

                      IT was not for you.

                      I am awaiting being called a blind homer who does not open my eyes though!
                      Originally posted by mysticsoto
                      Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                      • hydro
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 20160

                        #12
                        Re: Ugly win against Montreal

                        Originally posted by OpIv37
                        I never know what to think about games like this.
                        Huh? Of course you know what to say. This is the same thing you always say. About 5% of your post is giving the team credit and the rest is telling us everything they didn't do right. Par for the course, business as usual.
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                        • OpIv37
                          Acid Douching Asswipe
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 101288

                          #13
                          Re: Ugly win against Montreal

                          Originally posted by Dr. Lecter
                          They won and are one point out of first in the East. All of that despite not playing their best yet.

                          Methinks you need to look at the big picture.

                          And, maybe, just maybe, admit that Vanek does not suck at scoring goals. He is one of the best goal scorers in the NHL.

                          You always say there is never anything good in a loss. If that is true, back off *****ing about wins. You always say that is all you want of the team. So they win and you still are not happy.
                          Vanek has been one of the best goal-scorers in the NHL..... for all of 12 games. If you go back and look at the numbers, that statement simply isn't true until VERY recently. And I'm not willing to let 12 games override 4 years.

                          And that's EXACTLY why I'm still concerned about the larger picture. I don't have confidence that Vanek will keep up this pace. I don't have confidence that we can beat the better teams, especially when we've only managed 2 goals in regulation in 6 of the last 8 games. I don't have confidence that we can win with such a poor PP. I don't have confidence that this team can play complete games.
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                          • OpIv37
                            Acid Douching Asswipe
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 101288

                            #14
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                            Originally posted by Dr. Lecter
                            As for consistency - Vanek has goals in 8 different games. That is tied for 3rd in the NHL.

                            He has played in 17 games. In the first 6 games he had 3 goals. In the next 6 he had 4 goals. In the last 5 he has 4 goals.

                            Pretty consistent.
                            Again, that's over a 17 game period.

                            Vanek has NEVER been able to maintain that kind of consistency over his career. You're letting 17 games override 4-5 years.
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                            • Dr. Lecter
                              Zero for Zero!
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 67939

                              #15
                              Re: Ugly win against Montreal

                              Originally posted by OpIv37
                              Vanek has been one of the best goal-scorers in the NHL..... for all of 12 games. If you go back and look at the numbers, that statement simply isn't true until VERY recently. And I'm not willing to let 12 games override 4 years.

                              And that's EXACTLY why I'm still concerned about the larger picture. I don't have confidence that Vanek will keep up this pace. I don't have confidence that we can beat the better teams, especially when we've only managed 2 goals in regulation in 6 of the last 8 games. I don't have confidence that we can win with such a poor PP. I don't have confidence that this team can play complete games.
                              Actually I bet over the past 4 years he is top ten or top 15 in the NHL in goals scored per game.

                              And the PP is NOT poor. Do you even read other people's posts?

                              They are 11th in the NHL. Not great. Above average.

                              Definitely not poor.
                              Originally posted by mysticsoto
                              Lecter is right in everything he said.

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