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  • PTI
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    • Jan 2011
    • 5316

    Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

    4 common games as starter, both teams are 2-2, same exact game for each team too.

    Bills and Phins blow out Chiefs and both QBs have huge days.
    Bills and Phins get blown out against Jets and QBs looks awful.
    Bills and Phins both lose by 3 to the Giants, both have leads, both QBs throw late INTs to seal the fate in the last drive.
    Bills and Phins win easily over the Deadskins, both Moore and Fitz have casual ho-hum days, both throw a pick and both lose a fumble.

    Please tell me how Fitz got a 10 million dollar contract, he is not much different from Matt Moore at all.

    Fitz's numbers appear better, he has a 101 QB rating and Moore has a 77 in those games, Fitz has 65% completions and Moore has 61%, but the reality is the games were identical.
  • Ed
    Registered User
    • Sep 2002
    • 9245

    #2
    Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

    He has an awesome beard.

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    • OpIv37
      Acid Douching Asswipe
      • Sep 2002
      • 101230

      #3
      Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

      Originally posted by PTI
      4 common games as starter, both teams are 2-2, same exact game for each team too.

      Bills and Phins blow out Chiefs and both QBs have huge days.
      Bills and Phins get blown out against Jets and QBs looks awful.
      Bills and Phins both lose by 3 to the Giants, both have leads, both QBs throw late INTs to seal the fate in the last drive.
      Bills and Phins win easily over the Deadskins, both Moore and Fitz have casual ho-hum days, both throw a pick and both lose a fumble.

      Please tell me how Fitz got a 10 million dollar contract, he is not much different from Matt Moore at all.

      Fitz's numbers appear better, he has a 101 QB rating and Moore has a 77 in those games, Fitz has 65% completions and Moore has 61%, but the reality is the games were identical.
      Because 4 games is not a sufficient sample size.
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      • streetkings01
        Registered User
        • Jul 2006
        • 2980

        #4
        Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

        Fitz got 10 mill because he fits what Chan wants out of his QB. I've never been a Fitz fan because he's too hot and cold for my liking, but he's the QB for the next season at least.........I just hope of a QB falls to us in the 1st rd we still grab him.
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        • mightysimi
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          • Mar 2010
          • 6331

          #5
          Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

          I don't understand why people get choked up about the amount of money spent on a QB or anyone for that matter. It's not like they are picking up the cheque and it's not like we are right up against the salary cap.

          Plus I know we love to jump to conclusions based on 1/4 of a season but come on. It's 1/4 of a season. Did we forget the good day against the Pats. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he is the uber franchise QB we need for the next decade but right now in this system, he is doing well. We aren't paying him top dollar but we aren't low balling him either. I think it is fair market value for what he has been bringing.

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          • OpIv37
            Acid Douching Asswipe
            • Sep 2002
            • 101230

            #6
            Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

            Originally posted by mightysimi
            I don't understand why people get choked up about the amount of money spent on a QB or anyone for that matter. It's not like they are picking up the cheque and it's not like we are right up against the salary cap.

            Plus I know we love to jump to conclusions based on 1/4 of a season but come on. It's 1/4 of a season. Did we forget the good day against the Pats. Don't get me wrong, I don't think he is the uber franchise QB we need for the next decade but right now in this system, he is doing well. We aren't paying him top dollar but we aren't low balling him either. I think it is fair market value for what he has been bringing.
            For years, Russ Brandon's PR machine has been hammering it into people's heads that paying for players is bad. Every time. This is incorrect- paying for players is fine as long as they are the RIGHT players.

            And Bills fans also suffer from sticker shock. When was the last time we paid a QB? Big contracts are so few and far between that most Bills fans don't realize how much prices have gone up since the last time we paid someone.

            If Fitz looks like he did for the first quarter of the season, we got a good deal. If he continues to look like he did for the last few games, we're screwed.
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            • trapezeus
              Legendary Zoner
              • Oct 2004
              • 19525

              #7
              Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

              Fitz looked good with a line that could protect and could make running easier.

              The jets and the cowboys were the first games where the line was down to the 3rd LT and a change in guards.

              This game may be no better, but the bills can sort this out. The dolphins are overall under talented.

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              • ServoBillieves
                The Voice of Reason
                • Jul 2007
                • 6106

                #8
                Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

                I second the beard notion.
                Bye Bye Brady...

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                • MikeInRoch
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 10446

                  #9
                  Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

                  Fitz got middle of the road QB money, and he's a middle of the road QB. What's the problem?
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                  • Ickybaluky
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 8884

                    #10
                    Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

                    Originally posted by MikeInRoch
                    Fitz got middle of the road QB money, and he's a middle of the road QB. What's the problem?
                    Could be worse. They could have traded a starting CB, a 2nd round draft pick and paid that much money to get Kevin Kolb.

                    At the end of they day, he does have a great beard.

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                    • better days
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 22028

                      #11
                      Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

                      Originally posted by trapezeus
                      Fitz looked good with a line that could protect and could make running easier.

                      The jets and the cowboys were the first games where the line was down to the 3rd LT and a change in guards.

                      This game may be no better, but the bills can sort this out. The dolphins are overall under talented.
                      I agree with everything but your take on the Fins. They have some good players on that team. I think what they lack is a good HC myself & next year when they get one, everyone will be saying how did the Fins get so good so fast, just like the 49ers this year.

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                      • Stewie
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                        • Aug 2002
                        • 11567

                        #12
                        Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

                        The problem with these arguments is that peoples perceptions of worth don't change as fast as salaries.

                        In 2007, the QB franchise tag was worth 12.7 million. 2010, it was 16.4 million. These are under the old rules, but 10 million a year is not a bad deal for either side.

                        This is is why it costs four hundred bucks to take your family to a game.
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                        • BuffaloSoldier
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 11

                          #13
                          Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

                          Originally posted by Ed
                          He has an awesome beard.
                          HAHA. Awesome post!

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                          • DasBills
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 162

                            #14
                            Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

                            Originally posted by MikeInRoch
                            Fitz got middle of the road QB money, and he's a middle of the road QB. What's the problem?
                            It is middle of the road by NFL standards, but he's the first QB that Ralph has thrown that kind of money at in years, so people hold him to an almost unrealistic standard. The guy is doing just fine, and a couple of bad games (games which he got no help from anyone) does not make him a "bad QB". This team has a lot of holes, has all year, has for years, QB is not currently one of those holes.
                            Last edited by DasBills; 11-17-2011, 03:59 PM.

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                            • Ed
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 9245

                              #15
                              Re: Matt Moore versus Ryan Fitzpatrick

                              Yeah, 10 million a year is really not that much for a decent starting qb. I mean Brady and Manning average like 18 mil per year and when Aaron Rodgers signs a new deal it will probably be over 20 mil a year. And look at the 100 million dollar deal Vick just got this year. Talk about a mistake.

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