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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    LB, CB, WR

    Thats what I'd be after.

    Kelvin Sheppard continues to do little to impress me. I think he may only end up being a solid backup in this league. Put it this way, nothing in his game so far tells me we have found the answer for our need for a starting ILB. Vontaze Burfict or Luke Kuechly would be possibilities around the 15 pick. The LB corp needs quick, strong, playmakers who find the ball fast and hit like a truck.

    Pass rushing OLB is a big need already. Courtney Upshaw would be a great pickup in the mid-1st. We are desperate for a pass rusher who can also play against the run. Upshaw fits the Bill.

    At CB, McGee is about done, Florence gets too many penalties and is best suited to play underneath. Rogers is playing well and Williams has potential but thats not enough. Dre Kirkpatrick may be available at around the 15 spot.

    It will be interesting to see if we keep Stevie. Even if we do, Parrish may not be resigned, Easley may be done for good, and Nelson belongs in the slot. WR is a big need. Blackmon may not drop out of the top 10, and we may not pick that high. He'd be ideal IMO. After that, I'd like guys like Ryan Broyles (assuming he can come back from the ACL), Marquis Maze, but maybe Michael Floyd in the 1st.

    One area that may not be addressed is OT. As I said weeks ago, when Bell became healthy, Hairston will still start at LT. The Bills like Hairston at LT and I think they let Bell leave and start him there long term. The OL overall is good as far as starters, depth could still use help.

    I also don't see DL being much of a possibility, DE, DT, and NT are all set so unless we go after a rusher, I think we may not take anyone early.

    One thing to watch for would be a mid to late round QB as a backup. I'd love Weeden but his stock is on the rise.

    Really, ILB, OLB, CB, and WR are the priorities IMO.

  • Ed
    Dude
    • Sep 2002
    • 9247

    #2
    Re: LB, CB, WR

    LB is the biggest need by far to me. I could see our first two picks being a LB and CB.

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    • DraftBoy
      Administrator
      • Jul 2002
      • 107442

      #3
      Re: LB, CB, WR

      We need at held at nearly every position whether that be as a starter or depth. This FO has not done a good job addressing our depth issues.
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      We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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      • YardRat
        Well, lookie here...
        • Dec 2004
        • 86282

        #4
        Re: LB, CB, WR

        LBer, CB and WR...no special order, just take the BPA in any of those when our turn comes around.
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        • Luisito23
          Men Have Superbowl Gold, Legends Have Platinum Hearts!!!
          • Apr 2003
          • 7434

          #5
          Re: LB, CB, WR

          You forgot QB.
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          • ServoBillieves
            The Voice of Reason
            • Jul 2007
            • 6106

            #6
            Re: LB, CB, WR

            With all the injuries, I have no clue what this team truly needs other than depth-wise. All we know is our backups are decent enough to play in the NFL, but what about our starters?
            Bye Bye Brady...

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            • bf1
              Registered User
              • Oct 2010
              • 2882

              #7
              Re: LB, CB, WR

              Forgot DE.


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              • Buddo
                Registered User
                • Mar 2007
                • 1864

                #8
                Re: LB, CB, WR

                I think you're wrong about Sheppard. It looked to me today, as though he was in on a lot of the better plays the D had. It's called making progress, and I feel that that's what he's doing.
                No argument about OLB who can pass rush, and actually beat his man occasionally on a 1 to 1.
                I think Rogers and Williams are very promising. Florence will still be here, and maybe McGee also, depending on injury. Not sure about McKelvin, but I think if Williams and Rogers continue to progress, we aren't so badly off at CB as it might have seemed through the first part of the season.
                TBH, I think it could well be a toss-up as to our biggest need being between OLB and WR.
                We need another quality WR, without a shadow of a doubt. I consider Jones to be depth, tbh. Parrish may not be completely done, but he's hardly available these days, so should also only be depth.
                By the looks of things today, our TE group isn't that bad. I like Chandler, and both the other guys look like they can make a play or two. They aren't a Gates or Hernandez, but they aren't required to be in our current offense.
                Depth is still a problem, especially on the O-Line. Not only may we need another OT, but we could do with seriously looking at Center. Letting Hangman go to save money, was a mistake that doesn't need to be repeated. We need a genuine backup Center/Guard, as having your starters do it, is actually asking for trouble.
                I think we could, and should, go either WR or OLB with our 1st round pick for the next draft, as it's where we need a playmaker the most.

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                • tampabay25690
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 9670

                  #9
                  Re: LB, CB, WR

                  I agree with everything besides Shepperd.
                  Thats silly.

                  Shepperd is improving week after week.
                  GO Gators!!!!!!
                  GO GATORS!!

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                  • BillsFever21
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 9067

                    #10
                    Re: LB, CB, WR

                    The talk went from a playoff appearance or maybe winning the division to the 2012 draft all within a month. At least it took this long before the only thing we had to look forward to was the draft so we can grab some more players that never end up any good.

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                    • DesertFox24
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 2129

                      #11
                      Re: LB, CB, WR

                      Look David Harris did not light the world on fire his rookie year. Lets give the guy some time, he did not lead the SEC in tackling for 2 or 3 years because he sucks.

                      I do agree though that we will need some more ILBs because Barnett is getting older and three of our backups are on expiring contracts.

                      A guy I really like is Sean Spence out of Miami he could be the heir apparent to Nick Barnett and would a demon on special teams for the 12 and 13 seasons.

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                      • DraftBoy
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 107442

                        #12
                        Re: LB, CB, WR

                        Originally posted by DesertFox24
                        Look David Harris did not light the world on fire his rookie year. Lets give the guy some time, he did not lead the SEC in tackling for 2 or 3 years because he sucks.

                        I do agree though that we will need some more ILBs because Barnett is getting older and three of our backups are on expiring contracts.

                        A guy I really like is Sean Spence out of Miami he could be the heir apparent to Nick Barnett and would a demon on special teams for the 12 and 13 seasons.
                        I dont see Spence as any more than a Cover 2 LB in a 43. Too small for our system imo.
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                        • DesertFox24
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 2129

                          #13
                          Re: LB, CB, WR

                          Originally posted by DraftBoy
                          I dont see Spence as any more than a Cover 2 LB in a 43. Too small for our system imo.
                          Oh he is small now but he is 5'11 and 225. He could probably bulk up to 235 in 2 years with us and not lose any of his speed.

                          Also I don't want to make comparison to Ray Lewis but he was told he was to small as well.

                          My point is this if the guy can play, which I think he can, why not take a chance.

                          I would only take him in the mid second to mid third, but like you said some cover 2 team will probably take him before our second pick anyway.

                          I think he is a good player though.

                          Kuechly is a more athletic Poz, and is going to be a beast.

                          I love Shep but I would have no issue with us taking Kuechly. I am a firm believe in drafting Best Player Available regardless of position.

                          I also am becoming a fan of Mike Floyd and would like that pick as well.

                          Floyd, Johnson, Nelson, Smith, Jones could be one nasty WR corps for our spread attack.

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                          • DraftBoy
                            Administrator
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 107442

                            #14
                            Re: LB, CB, WR

                            Originally posted by DesertFox24
                            Oh he is small now but he is 5'11 and 225. He could probably bulk up to 235 in 2 years with us and not lose any of his speed.

                            Also I don't want to make comparison to Ray Lewis but he was told he was to small as well.

                            My point is this if the guy can play, which I think he can, why not take a chance.

                            I would only take him in the mid second to mid third, but like you said some cover 2 team will probably take him before our second pick anyway.

                            I think he is a good player though.

                            Kuechly is a more athletic Poz, and is going to be a beast.

                            I love Shep but I would have no issue with us taking Kuechly. I am a firm believe in drafting Best Player Available regardless of position.

                            I also am becoming a fan of Mike Floyd and would like that pick as well.

                            Floyd, Johnson, Nelson, Smith, Jones could be one nasty WR corps for our spread attack.
                            Yes but Spencer is an OLB who hasn't shown the versatility a guy like Harvey showed us last year.

                            Im pretty sure Lewis played inside and outside at Miami as well which spoke to his versatility.

                            Moving Spence inside doesn't make much sense to me. He already really struggles to fight off blocks.
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                            We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                            • DesertFox24
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 2129

                              #15
                              Re: LB, CB, WR

                              Originally posted by DraftBoy
                              Yes but Spencer is an OLB who hasn't shown the versatility a guy like Harvey showed us last year.

                              Im pretty sure Lewis played inside and outside at Miami as well which spoke to his versatility.

                              Moving Spence inside doesn't make much sense to me. He already really struggles to fight off blocks.
                              Good points. I thought Spence played ILB his freshman year, but I could be wrong.

                              I agree he could be a stud for a cover 2 team as a WILL, but I hope NIx explores him as a possible ILB and look to see if could work.

                              We need another strong draft to get key depth and some OLBs that can replace Spencer Johnson.

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