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PTI
12-05-2011, 02:26 PM
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This has the Bills finishing 5-11, 2nd worst team overall!! They have the the Chiefs actually making it to 8-8 and being the 2nd wild card and Bengals falling flat.

Would this make you happy getting the 2nd overall pick, or sad?

Mski
12-05-2011, 02:27 PM
happy, but i dont see up making it lower than 5th overall

SquishDaFish
12-05-2011, 02:28 PM
Happy seeing how it turned out

Oaf
12-05-2011, 02:30 PM
I'd rather go 9-7 (or even 8-8) than 5-11. Geez. Winning football games is enjoyable. That's all I want. We eff'd our chance at winning significant ones, but it's still the only thing worth watching for.

DraftBoy
12-05-2011, 02:40 PM
I expect us to finish picking between 8 and 12 at this point. We are in a 3 way tie for 13th.

djjimkelly
12-05-2011, 02:51 PM
id be overjoyed if we were picking 2nd

i doubt that happens

id be on the matt barkley bandwagon with TD

djjimkelly
12-05-2011, 03:04 PM
and im looking at our schedule plus schedule of others it is very possible we dont win another game that sounds crazy considering how this year started but i dont see us winning another game

maybe we beat the chargers but i dont see how we never play well in san diego.

and maybe we beat miami but they are playing great right now

i could easily see 0-4 to end this year.

ill be cheering for the low life teams of the league

i want a top 5 pick

k-oneputt
12-05-2011, 03:11 PM
If we are picking top-5 you all had better hope that these draft wizzards at OBD don't have one of their small school studs in sight or one year wonders.
Because they can't wait to show the football world how smart they are every draft day.

k-oneputt
12-05-2011, 03:12 PM
I expect us to finish picking between 8 and 12 at this point. We are in a 3 way tie for 13th.

Great. Between 8-12, that's right were we have been known to do all our great picking damage.

don137
12-05-2011, 03:43 PM
Love to get Barkley or Griffin III. Finally get a franchise QB to build around.

Joe Fo Sho
12-05-2011, 03:54 PM
It also project Minnesota to beat Detroit, New Orleans, Washington and Chicago to finish 6-10. Not a chance.

djjimkelly
12-05-2011, 04:11 PM
and st louis to beat some pretty serious teams lol

ill be happy if we get to 5

bosshogg21
12-05-2011, 04:11 PM
Barkley would be awesome.

kingJofNYC
12-05-2011, 04:40 PM
If we are picking top-5 you all had better hope that these draft wizzards at OBD don't have one of their small school studs in sight or one year wonders.
Because they can't wait to show the football world how smart they are every draft day.
Like JPP?

Small school one year wonder, how's that working out for the Giants?

Our big school stud DT is playing like a chump.

How's Aldon Smith looking right now?

k-oneputt
12-05-2011, 04:53 PM
Like JPP?

Small school one year wonder, how's that working out for the Giants?

Our big school stud DT is playing like a chump.

Aldon Smith from Missouri and the BIG-12. That A.S. ???
or Pierre Paul form S. Fla and the BIG EAST ???

Now I was talking about our very own Leiodis "I'm on the Bench Now" McKelvin from Troy.
And our two d-linemen from last season who have done nothing, Carrington from Ark. St., hey another Sunbelt guy or Troup from C. Fla{ C-USA}, Or the supposed olb's Moats and Batten..

How's that for a collection. Please stop it next draft because I'm sick of pick thses losers and sucking

How's Aldon Smith looking right now?

kingJofNYC
12-05-2011, 04:56 PM
See , to me it's not about the small school vs big school, look at Rodgers Cromartie, it's about making good picks and finding good players in general. We **** up regardless of the school/conference size, abject failures regardless.

Johnny Bugmenot
12-05-2011, 04:58 PM
If-- and this is a big if-- they somehow manage to get that high (and I highly doubt it, you're probably talking somewhere in the 5-7 range with that kind of record), I'm seriously on the phone with Polian trying to trade up.

k-oneputt
12-05-2011, 05:02 PM
See , to me it's not about the small school vs big school, look at Rodgers Cromartie, it's about making good picks and finding good players in general. We **** up regardless of the school/conference size, abject failures regardless.

Beleive me if you can find some that can actually play by all means bring them in.
I guess Phil Hansen 20+ years ago worked out well.........

kingJofNYC
12-05-2011, 05:09 PM
If-- and this is a big if-- they somehow manage to get that high (and I highly doubt it, you're probably talking somewhere in the 5-7 range with that kind of record), I'm seriously on the phone with Polian trying to trade up.

Do you think the Colts would trade it with a player like Luck in their grasp? How much longer does Manning have? Even if you sit Luck 3 years, like the Packers did with Rodgers, it's well worth it, especially with the rookie cap.

Would love to move up, but the only teams that would probably move down are the ones who drafted a QB last season.

mrbojanglezs
12-05-2011, 05:16 PM
I expect us to finish picking between 8 and 12 at this point. We are in a 3 way tie for 13th.

let the mediocrity continue

Skooby
12-05-2011, 05:30 PM
We'll draft 9th, just like we always do.

Billsouth
12-05-2011, 05:57 PM
im sure we will draft the next hot shot gimic player who wont amount to a hill of beans. We could have had Aaron Rodgers, Haloti Ngoti, Orapko, Oher. WE SUCK AT DRAFTING! the proof of the pudding is that we have traded away/cut so many #1 picks when they should be in their prime. these include: Lynch, Maybin, Lee Evans, Jason Peters, James Hardy (2nd rounder 2008), Chris Ellis (3rd rounder 2008). There are more examples like Wang, our first o-lineman drafted last year was not good enough to make the squad this year.

How do u expect us to be good if Ralph wont spend any money in free agency, and drafts like he is randomly picking lottery numbers?

The Jokeman
12-05-2011, 06:11 PM
We'll draft 9th, just like we always do.
Actually we've had pick 11 twice in the last five years and pick 12 once. Which could land is a replacement for pick 11 in the 2008 draft (McKelvin) if look at Alfonzo Dennard.

Bangarang
12-05-2011, 07:55 PM
im sure we will draft the next hot shot gimic player who wont amount to a hill of beans. We could have had Aaron Rodgers, Haloti Ngoti, Orapko, Oher. WE SUCK AT DRAFTING! the proof of the pudding is that we have traded away/cut so many #1 picks when they should be in their prime. these include: Lynch, Maybin, Lee Evans, Jason Peters, James Hardy (2nd rounder 2008), Chris Ellis (3rd rounder 2008). There are more examples like Wang, our first o-lineman drafted last year was not good enough to make the squad this year.

How do u expect us to be good if Ralph wont spend any money in free agency, and drafts like he is randomly picking lottery numbers?

Jason Peters went unstaffed and Ed Wang was a 5th rounder.

BertSquirtgum
12-05-2011, 08:23 PM
Good, then the Bills can definitely draft Matt Barkley.

djjimkelly
12-05-2011, 08:26 PM
well tonight we should be cheering for the jags


i have no doubt chargers beat us next week that will get them to 5 wins like us


tonight win for jags would be their 4th then we can hope gabbert gets on fire

we need these 2 teams to pass us however neither of these teams would pick a qb

barkley or no qb this year

that OLB from alabama i forget his name would look great in buffalo

Oaf
12-05-2011, 09:26 PM
Just win, baby.

Mike13
12-05-2011, 11:03 PM
Good, then the Bills can definitely draft Matt Barkley.

That wont happen.

BertSquirtgum
12-05-2011, 11:27 PM
That wont happen.

I don't see how it wouldn't he's available when the Bills pick.

paladin warrior
12-06-2011, 12:30 AM
That wont happen. Hey fishbreath .. it that ur boyfriend dance like a chickenhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gBxcC_dKhG0/TsoLxExAf0I/AAAAAAAAAAk/9QH9iYUNJog/s320/Pee%20Wee%20gif.gif

clumping platelets
12-06-2011, 01:18 AM
2nd pick = WR Blackmon :nod:

But the highest we'll pick is 7th or 8th

TacklingDummy
12-06-2011, 06:16 AM
IN BARKLEY WE TRUST

Jeff1220
12-06-2011, 06:21 AM
I don't really follow much college...until draft time that is...are there any top 10 pass rushers that fit a 3-4 D?

jamze132
12-06-2011, 08:18 AM
5-11 should get us 8-10.

Ed
12-06-2011, 10:18 AM
That simulation has the Vikings and Rams going 4-0 the rest of the way and the Jags going 3-1. That's just stupid.

stuckincincy
12-06-2011, 10:22 AM
I expect us to finish picking between 8 and 12 at this point. We are in a 3 way tie for 13th.

Any decent LTs available at 8 -12? :birds:

Mike13
12-06-2011, 10:19 PM
I don't see how it wouldn't he's available when the Bills pick.

Buffalo may not pick that high, plus you gave Fitz that big contract.



Hey fishbreath .. it that ur boyfriend dance like a chickenhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gBxcC_dKhG0/TsoLxExAf0I/AAAAAAAAAAk/9QH9iYUNJog/s320/Pee%20Wee%20gif.gif

Are you really in a position to talk smack? Because my ****ty team beat the living hell out of your ****ty team.

OpIv37
12-06-2011, 10:27 PM
We had the 3rd overall pick this year- a lot of good that did us.

I have full faith that this FO will botch the pick regardless if we pick #1 or #32.

kingJofNYC
12-06-2011, 10:48 PM
We had the 3rd overall pick this year- a lot of good that did us.

I have full faith that this FO will botch the pick regardless if we pick #1 or #32.
Not a Dareus fan I see.

And the Bills could draft a QB, that "big" contract doesn't mean ****.

Edit: Newton is making under 6m aav, that's nothing. Thanks to the rookie cap you can carry another QB at a modest salary, and cut Fitz in due time.

BertSquirtgum
12-06-2011, 10:55 PM
Buffalo may not pick that high, plus you gave Fitz that big contract.
.

Bills can opt out of that contract before each NFL season begins(March) if they chose to do so.

OpIv37
12-06-2011, 11:13 PM
Not a Dareus fan I see.

And the Bills could draft a QB, that "big" contract doesn't mean ****.

Edit: Newton is making under 6m aav, that's nothing. Thanks to the rookie cap you can carry another QB at a modest salary, and cut Fitz in due time.
Dareus is ok and it usually takes time for DTs to develop. But the other picks by this FO have been pretty bad, and having the #3 in the last draft didn't make us any better this year.

BertSquirtgum
12-07-2011, 12:13 AM
Dareus is ok and it usually takes time for DTs to develop. But the other picks by this FO have been pretty bad, and having the #3 in the last draft didn't make us any better this year.

Yupp, the 2010 draft class is garbage. Spiller might break out but I won't hold my breath.

BillsFever21
12-07-2011, 07:12 PM
We will end up winning either the Miami or Denver game in Buffalo and most likely losing the rest of them. It's just another Buffalo collapse.

The only thing our lucky wins early in the season got us was a lower draft pick, inflated fan expectations by many and overpaying for an average to slightly above average QB who has never had a winning season as a starting QB.

Fitzpatrick can win games if you have a good defense that can keep the games close but he isn't anywhere near a top 10 QB or so. He will have a few great games every now and then but the rest of them are bad or average at best.

Some are still even calling this season an improvement just because we might win a couple more games. We are not much better then last year. We had a few lucky wins and could very easily be 3-9 right now.

Look at this way we started off 0-8 last year and have already lost 5 games in a row this year and 6 out of our last 7 with the one lonely win coming against a Redskin team that couldn't beat anybody at the time. It could very easily be 7 in a row had we played any decent team that game.

That isn't any better then last season. We just happened to win a few lucky games early on when in reality in most cases it should've been two losses out of them games if not all three of them. Instead of starting off horrible last year and leveling off after the midway point we just pulled a reverse this season.

If we end up only winning 5 or 6 games what kind of improvement is that especially after we were sitting there 3-0, 4-1 and also 5-2 and totally bombed out? There isn't much if any at all. This is the same lousy team that ended up winning a couple more games and getting lucky in three of the wins.

Mr. Pink
12-08-2011, 02:36 PM
5-11 won't be picking 2nd overall. More like around 6th-9th.

ddaryl
12-08-2011, 03:11 PM
at this point I would be happy with the #2 overall pick.

don't see that happening

Ed
12-09-2011, 09:48 AM
5-11 won't be picking 2nd overall. More like around 6th-9th.
Agree. Even if we do end up going 5-11, the Vikings, Rams, and Jags are all terrible and have tough remaining games. Plus other bad teams like Cleveland and Washington would have to find a way to win a couple games.

I still think we win a couple more and end up 10-15.