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  • THE END OF ALL DAYS
    The Allen Era has begun.... no looking back now, come hell or high water!
    • Feb 2005
    • 4525

    The injury excuse

    First let me say Im NOT discounting the impact of injuries....

    But Last year the Packers were decimated with injuries and won the supberbowl with a fair number of 3rd stringers.

    I am a bit grudging in my acceptance of the injury excuse for the collapse

    I think it is more then that... but i dont know what other then our defense is soooo bad it is just mind boggeling
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  • Don't Panic
    All-Pro Zoner
    • Dec 2005
    • 4227

    #2
    Re: The injury excuse

    Fair point. Even without our injuries we probably wouldn't be much better than 7-5 at this stage of the season. KWilliams was the only impact injury. Who knows the difference that made on the D this year.

    AS for the GB comparison... they are a well-built and deep team. They have evolved to that point through years of good management. I still reserve judgement on Nix at this point. He needs another offseason to plug the remaining holes, but we need to be in the thick of the playoff hunt this time next year if we're going to consider what he's done to be successful.

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    • Philagape
      WIN NOW
      • Jul 2002
      • 19432

      #3
      Re: The injury excuse

      Wood and Wilson have been impact injuries too.

      And how much better would the passing game have been with Parrish and Easley?
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      • Goobylal
        Registered User
        • Jan 2004
        • 19371

        #4
        Re: The injury excuse

        Good point about the Packers. I say the Bills should draft QB's in only the 6th round and start them, expecting them to be the next Tom Brady.

        Sorry but when you lose your best DL, pass rusher, LT, C, and SS, a starting WR, starting lost WR, and kicker for long stretches, you're not going to win many games. And who did the Packers lose that anyone had ever heard about before the Bills signed Nick Barnett?

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        • Meathead
          Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
          • Jul 2002
          • 21349

          #5
          Re: The injury excuse

          packers also have one of the three best qbs in the league. probably 26 of the rest of the teams have no choice but to perennially do with less. an elite qb hides a ton but if you aint got one you aint got one and you probably wont for a long time
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          • dog14787
            Registered User
            • Oct 2010
            • 1701

            #6
            Re: The injury excuse

            Originally posted by Don't Panic
            Fair point. Even without our injuries we probably wouldn't be much better than 7-5 at this stage of the season. KWilliams was the only impact injury. Who knows the difference that made on the D this year.

            AS for the GB comparison... they are a well-built and deep team. They have evolved to that point through years of good management. I still reserve judgement on Nix at this point. He needs another offseason to plug the remaining holes, but we need to be in the thick of the playoff hunt this time next year if we're going to consider what he's done to be successful.
            Well posted,

            GB is well built with good depth that has evolved through years of good management.

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            • Philagape
              WIN NOW
              • Jul 2002
              • 19432

              #7
              Re: The injury excuse

              Go to the Colts board and say injuries are no excuse!
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              • ServoBillieves
                The Voice of Reason
                • Jul 2007
                • 6106

                #8
                Re: The injury excuse

                Wait, so losing the offensive focal point was nothing? You have 2 injured Left Tackles, who you fill the void with your starting left guard, who is then filled by a backup, THEN you try to find a player for your center, Wood, who is done for the year. You lose Merriman, you lose your best D-Lineman in Kyle Williams, you don't have Parrish or Easley, so we need a new WR? Oh wait, I'm sorry, we also lost Donald Jones!

                The Bills, in a short offseason, and even before the coaches were allowed to talk to the players, had their plans set around these players. Anyone who doesn't get that aspect is a serious moron. Like, not even worth talking to moron. These things need to be taken care of ASAP with getting a new strength and conditioning coach, along with getting these players ready for the NFL.

                Wow, it's really nice that these teams (other than the Colts) are doing great with their experienced players, but DUE TO INJURIES, we are starting a rookie LT, we're starting a rookie NT (moved from his LE position), a rookie ILB, a rookie CB (who is now injured), and a rookie S...

                No, can't blame it on the injuries at all. Honestly, tell me we can't blame it on injuries, and I will laugh at you hysterically. This team was built around an initial 53 players, and they've had to fill cogs and pick up slack like no other team in this league.

                But again, it's not the injuries.
                Bye Bye Brady...

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                • Mike
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3805

                  #9
                  Re: The injury excuse

                  Sorry but when you lose your best DL, pass rusher, LT, C, and SS, a starting WR, starting lost WR, and kicker for long stretches, you're not going to win many games. And who did the Packers lose that anyone had ever heard about before the Bills signed Nick Barnett?
                  Taxans have WON 6 Straight! The have lost their Pro Bowl QB & his back up, All Pro DE, All Pro WR, All Pro RB and still find a way to win.

                  Packers won SB last year with 3rd stringers!!!

                  Patriots managed to go 11-5 after Brady was injured!

                  GOOD Teams Find a Way to Win!

                  Part of being a well build team is having depth!

                  All Teams Suffer Injuries, the Good Ones Find a way to win despite them!
                  Please Make Sense

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                  • Mike
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3805

                    #10
                    Re: The injury excuse

                    Sorry but when you lose your best DL, pass rusher, LT, C, and SS, a starting WR, starting lost WR, and kicker for long stretches, you're not going to win many games. And who did the Packers lose that anyone had ever heard about before the Bills signed Nick Barnett?
                    Packers 2010 had 15 Players on IR
                    RB Ryan Grant ankle/IR 14
                    SS Morgan Burnett (R) knee/IR 12
                    ILB Nick Barnett wrist/IR 11
                    T Mark Tauscher shoulder/IR 11
                    TE Jermichael Finley knee/IR 10
                    OLB Brad Jones shoulder/IR

                    Key Reserves on IR
                    CB Josh Bell
                    foot/IR 16
                    G/T Marshall Newhouse (R) ba
                    DE Justin Harrell knee/IR 14
                    DE Mike Neal (R) shoulder/IR 13
                    FS Derrick Martin knee/IR 10
                    OLB Brady Poppinga knee/IR 9
                    LILB Brandon Chillar shoulder/IR 7
                    FS Anthony Smith ankle/IR 5
                    TE Spencer Havner hamstring/IR 4

                    That Does NOT include players that missed games because of injury, Like ROGERS, who were not IRed.

                    Way worst than anything the Bills have lost. They lost their whole LBers, 2 Safties, 2 TE, 2DEs, 2tackles etc.... 2010 was Crazy number of injuries for Pack!

                    How many players do the Bills have on IR? Nowhere near 15 & there is no chance were winning the SB
                    Last edited by Mike; 12-06-2011, 03:37 AM.
                    Please Make Sense

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                    • ZEUS
                      My bedroom is covered in posters of naked men.
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 132

                      #11
                      Re: The injury excuse

                      Green Bay didn't become what they are in one season. Jouron left this team a mess. Gailey and Nix said lack of experienced depth was a big concern for them going into the season. We got excited with a strong start to the season and were thinking playoffs prematurely. I am expecting this team to have a post season next year. No excuses.

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                      • Jeff1220
                        H to the 12:20
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 6137

                        #12
                        Re: The injury excuse

                        Originally posted by Mike
                        Taxans have WON 6 Straight! The have lost their Pro Bowl QB & his back up, All Pro DE, All Pro WR, All Pro RB and still find a way to win.

                        Packers won SB last year with 3rd stringers!!!

                        Patriots managed to go 11-5 after Brady was injured!

                        GOOD Teams Find a Way to Win!

                        Part of being a well build team is having depth!

                        All Teams Suffer Injuries, the Good Ones Find a way to win despite them!
                        Yeah, but as optimistic things looked early on, did anyone actually think that the Bills were one of those teams? Even when they started fast out of the gate, they always seemed a key injury or two away from being a bottom feeder again. That sort of depth doesn't usually build itself in a year or two. Next season is baby time.

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                        • Jan Reimers
                          Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                          • May 2003
                          • 17353

                          #13
                          Re: The injury excuse

                          We simply have too little talent, and far too little depth, to withstand injuries to key players like K. Williams and Freddie.

                          So it's a good excuse, but only because our FO has not put us in position to withstand injuries.
                          Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                          • Johnny Bugmenot
                            Will not tolerate vandalism.
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 4311

                            #14
                            Re: The injury excuse

                            Originally posted by Mike
                            Taxans have WON 6 Straight! The have lost their Pro Bowl QB & his back up, All Pro DE, All Pro WR, All Pro RB and still find a way to win.
                            They're also in one of the weakest divisions in football. Remember that. Let's see the Texans do what they do in the AFC East.

                            Packers won SB last year with 3rd stringers!!!
                            Lions, Bears, Vikings. See above.

                            Patriots managed to go 11-5 after Brady was injured!
                            And still missed the playoffs.

                            GOOD Teams Find a Way to Win!

                            Part of being a well build team is having depth!

                            All Teams Suffer Injuries, the Good Ones Find a way to win despite them!

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                            • jamze132
                              Don’t hate…
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 29410

                              #15
                              Re: The injury excuse

                              We have had a lot of injuries, but it's not like our guys that got injured are all-stars, with the exception of KW.

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