This team is a joke thanks to coaching

[YardRat]

If Gailey doesn't make some serious changes to the staff this off season, his ass should be shown the door.

[paladin warrior]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gr20wjy1Vk

[Ed]

Well he took defensive play calling duties away from George Edwards today. That's a start.

[paladin warrior]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPXcuSLm5N0

[YardRat]

Well he took defensive play calling duties away from George Edwards today. That's a start.

Wannstadt isn't any better...

[YardRat]

Too many penalties = coaching.
Terrible preparation = coaching.
Lack of adjustments = coaching.
Terrible game-planning = coaching.
Lack of improvement by players = coaching.

[don137]

Well the worse Fitz plays and Gailey coaches the better chance Fitz is cut and Gailey is fired. Both are not the answers.

[ParanoidAndroid]

This is not a talented team beyond a handful of starters many of which are on IR. I'm not sure what Gailey is supposed to do with that. I can't be certain he should be the one taking the fall when a team that was 100% healthy was overacheiving by all accounts.

[generalmills]

This is not a talented team beyond a handful of starters many of which are on IR. I'm not sure what Gailey is supposed to do with that. I can't be certain he should be the one taking the fall when a team that was 100% healthy was overacheiving by all accounts.

I think you are on the right track here. Good teams have a deep line up. The bills are not a good team. Nix has been cleaning house when it comes to years of terrible drafts. The focus appears to have been on building the starting 22 but building depth comes with time and a string of good drafts. The first 7 games of this season were won with the "opening day starters". When the injury bug hits (and it always does), teams will depth problems will make their way to the bottom (the bills did this to say the least). Rebuilding is not over by a long shot.

It does not help a fan base that has not seen a winner in more than a decade but all things considered I think you are on the right track with your comment.

[Bangarang]

In his 2 years as HC, Chan has had 7 game losing streaks in each season.

He is 9-21 as our HC. How does he have a job?

[Ed]

Wannstadt isn't any better...
Maybe not, but at least he recognizes there's a problem and is willing to make a change. It's not like he can hire a new DC in week 15.

[bluerosekiller]

He should go. Absolutely no more excuses.
I don't care about the rash of injuries that the team has suffered. I mean, seriously. At some point it's time to recognize that teams make their own luck & that they must be doing something fundamentally & profoundly bad as a unit to go from being the feel good story of the League early on to being the miserable laughing stock again...
Someone needs to be held accountable & it certainly doesn't look as if it's going to be ol' Buddy Nix. Now does it?
And I sincerely doubt whether the woefully ill & geriatric Ralph Wilson will have a moment of clarity regarding the team & what's best for it. Hell, he hasn't had one of THOSE in twenty years!
So, likely the best we can hope for is for Nix to try to save some face by giving Gaily the boot.
Sure, he might just run into a situation like two years ago when all the most reputable coaches come too steep or aren't interested in THIS situation. But, he got to try. This time someone better might just fall into his lap. It's unlikely, but things could be different this time around.
And this time he should insist on someone with a proven successful track record.

[kingJofNYC]

Ralph would definitely toss him, but current Ralph doesn't really give a ****. Not like he did before, but at least he put on like he did.

[DraftBoy]

Gailey got all the crefit early for getting this talentless roster to win but now as the rest of the NFL adjusted (as they always do) we look worse than we did under Jauron. I don't want to hear one person say "well the roster sucks..." because our coaching right now is worse.

[kingJofNYC]

A big **** you to Cowher as well, thanks for putting in the good word for Gailey!

[madness]

I think you are on the right track here. Good teams have a deep line up. The bills are not a good team. Nix has been cleaning house when it comes to years of terrible drafts. The focus appears to have been on building the starting 22 but building depth comes with time and a string of good drafts. The first 7 games of this season were won with the "opening day starters". When the injury bug hits (and it always does), teams will depth problems will make their way to the bottom (the bills did this to say the least). Rebuilding is not over by a long shot.

It does not help a fan base that has not seen a winner in more than a decade but all things considered I think you are on the right track with your comment.
Fans are also quick to forget even Nix admitted as much before the regular season even started. He said we most likely couldn't survive a rash of injuries because this roster still needs depth.

[EDS]

Fans are also quick to forget even Nix admitted as much before the regular season even started. He said we most likely couldn't survive a rash of injuries because this roster still needs depth.

That just shows Nix's brilliance in getting rid of guys like Evans and Hangartner.

[kingJofNYC]

Hang was ****, thankfully they cut his ass and gave Rinehart a shot, he's looked very good. As far as I'm concerned that wasn't one of his **** ups, relying on an oft injured OLB was.

A guy like Babin or Carter would've done wonders on this roster. B.Smith shouldnt have been signed, and with the money saved on Evans and Hang, we could've signed a legit pass rusher. Evans was never in the cards for this season, they should've moved him sooner, and reinvested the money elsewhere.

[Cleve]

Gailey got all the crefit early for getting this talentless roster to win but now as the rest of the NFL adjusted (as they always do) we look worse than we did under Jauron. I don't want to hear one person say "well the roster sucks..." because our coaching right now is worse.

Newspaper analysts and writers are putting a lot of the blame on Gailey and the coaching. They're obviously a lot more knowledgeable than the Zoners here trying to let Gailey skate on the 'injury' excuse.

[jimmacie]

Those who think that when the injured players return next year that we will be a respectable team again are fooling themselves.

I agree that the lack of depth and many injuries have been a factor in our slide, BUT the coaching is the biggest problem. There is NO imagination with the offense. It is the same garbage play-calling every game. How many times can you throw a screen pass and be efective? With 2 games left in a dismal season, why not open up the offense and try something different. Jazz it up! What have we got to lose now.

If I hear Gailey say one more time at his postgame press conference that "if I knew what the problem was, I'd fix it", I think I am going to puke. Chan, you are the head coach. If you don't know what the problem is and cannot fix it, why do we want you here? Chan needs to go.

Also, has anyone noticed that Fitzpatrick always seems to lckk onto a receiver and never goes through a progression to see who is open like most QB's do. All teams know he cannot through the deep ball accurately (as evidenced several times today) and they also seem to know that they can read his eyes and know what receiver he is going to since he seldom, if ever, looks off a receiver and throws elsewhere. I think that is why there are usually 2 or 3 defenders around the intended receiver. They know where brilliant Mr. Harvard is going to throw. He is a joke and must also go.

[BertSquirtgum]

"Zero, I've lost Zero confidence in Fitz" ARE YOU ****ING STUPID GAILEY? I am so underwhelmed when I watch his play calls each game. What a ****ing buffoon. He needs to be fired too. **** him.

[ParanoidAndroid]

81 Marcus Easley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Easley) WR <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
36 Bruce Hall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Hall_%28American_football%29) RB <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
22 Fred Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Jackson_%28American_football%29) RB <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
19 Donald Jones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Jones_%28American_football%29) WR <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
9 Rian Lindell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rian_Lindell) K <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
24 Terrence McGee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrence_McGee) CB <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
56 Shawne Merriman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawne_Merriman) OLB <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
11 Roscoe Parrish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe_Parrish) WR <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
53 Reggie Torbor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Torbor) ILB/OLB <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
96 Torell Troup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torell_Troup) NT <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
51 Chris White (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_White_%28linebacker%29) ILB <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
95 Kyle Williams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Williams_%28defensive_tackle%29) NT <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
70 Eric Wood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Wood) C <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)

5 starters on offense lost for the season and we're wondering why they aren't doing what they were able to early on? Chandler was inactive this week, too. That's over half the original starting offense.
Yeah.... it's the play calling, not the lack of execution. Suuuuure.

[sqad5]

81 Marcus Easley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Easley) WR <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
36 Bruce Hall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Hall_%28American_football%29) RB <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
22 Fred Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Jackson_%28American_football%29) RB <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
19 Donald Jones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Jones_%28American_football%29) WR <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
9 Rian Lindell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rian_Lindell) K <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
24 Terrence McGee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrence_McGee) CB <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
56 Shawne Merriman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawne_Merriman) OLB <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
11 Roscoe Parrish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscoe_Parrish) WR <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
53 Reggie Torbor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Torbor) ILB/OLB <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
96 Torell Troup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torell_Troup) NT <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
51 Chris White (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_White_%28linebacker%29) ILB <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
95 Kyle Williams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Williams_%28defensive_tackle%29) NT <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)
70 Eric Wood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Wood) C <small>(IR)</small> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Injury_icon_2.svg/10px-Injury_icon_2.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Injury_icon_2.svg)

5 starters on offense lost for the season and we're wondering why they aren't doing what they were able to early on? Chandler was inactive this week, too. That's over half the original starting offense.
Yeah.... it's the play calling, not the lack of execution. Suuuuure.

Who gives a ****,spiller was tearing it up today and our ****ing ******ed coach stopped running the damn ball in the second half... So **** Gailey sucks big ole dog dicks **** him.He is a terrible coach and play caller

[BertSquirtgum]

Oh yeah. Everything is just going to be jolly, oh gee wiz, great next year when some of the starters come back. ****ing bull****. If Gailey can't get these losers to win one more game then he doesn't deserve to coach here next year. Dropping 9 in a row is incomprehensible. Regardless of what injuries there are.

[sqad5]

Our coaching staff and owner are like the wizard of oz characters,no heart,no brain and a bunch of pussy's

[ParanoidAndroid]

Kind of hard to run the ball on 2nd and 15 or 20 which is what they got themselves into all game long trying to run the ball on 1st down and getting whistled.

[BertSquirtgum]

Excuses are for pathetic losers. Which is exactly what the Bills are. Excuses are all I heard in both Fitzputz's and Gailey's press conferences. They are both terrible.

[Borosai]

The defense's shortcomings have been on display all year, but lately Gailey is bugging me. His short-pass-happy play calling, while abandoning the run, is not good enough. That's on him.

[Bill Cody]

It's mostly personell not coaching.

[Ickybaluky]

Hang was ****, thankfully they cut his ass and gave Rinehart a shot, he's looked very good. As far as I'm concerned that wasn't one of his **** ups, relying on an oft injured OLB was.

I think his point was they cut Hangartner and he would have provided more depth. Say what you want about the guy, but he has started all year for Carolina.

[YardRat]

Kind of hard to run the ball on 2nd and 15 or 20 which is what they got themselves into all game long trying to run the ball on 1st down and getting whistled.

And most of those penalties were on the offensive line.

[Historian]

He is 9-21 as our HC. How does he have a job?

He's the only one who would take it.

[trapezeus]

i don't think you fire gailey, but:

1. the game plans have looked wildly different sicne the first jets game. they are unimaginative and lack creativity with the injuries that are there.

where is the wildcat? why are we still running single back formations with so many lineman out of position?

2. Why are RB's who are having good games just abandoned in the second half? Both freddie and Spiller have been shelved in the second halfs since Jets 1.

3. where is brad smith on short yardage situations?

4. why is Choice being used right after decent runs by spiller?

5. Why is the defense giving up 200+ yard rushing routinely last year to only give up 400+ yards passing routinely this year?

6. why are we still sticking with DE as OLB's when we knew it didn't work last year.

7.Why are players like rogers who have had decent games only getting on the field now when Mckelvin was just so consistently bad?

In the end:
he did well at the start, but hasn't adapted much. the second half changes aren't there. I feel bad in this 7 game stretch, he's had plays designed for yardage where fitz isn't even close or going to the wrong guy. you can't really micromanage a QB to fix all that.

it is clear there needs to be a competition at QB next year and it can't be between fitz and thigpen. it has to be a guy who can thow a dart off his back foot.

[DraftBoy]

Gailey has to get a win in the next two weeks or his job could be gone. A losing streak like this will be hard to sell to the fan base next season.

[trapezeus]

who else is going to take the job. the overall ineptness of the organization has created a world where gailey really is the only guy that would take the job. you fire him, and i just don't see who is a more marketable face that helps the situation.

we might be at the point where we just ask a local fan to run the team. i guarantee you most of this board would be able to coach 5 wins out of this team.

[DraftBoy]

who else is going to take the job. the overall ineptness of the organization has created a world where gailey really is the only guy that would take the job. you fire him, and i just don't see who is a more marketable face that helps the situation.

we might be at the point where we just ask a local fan to run the team. i guarantee you most of this board would be able to coach 5 wins out of this team.

I could name a few young guys who I'm sure would love to just get a shot.

[better days]

I think his point was they cut Hangartner and he would have provided more depth. Say what you want about the guy, but he has started all year for Carolina.

Well, Hangartner does not go up against guys like Wilfork & Pouha playing in the NFC South. He is not big or strong enough to play in the AFC East.

[Forward_Lateral]

I love how people say "Nobody will take this job". Trust me, guys will be lined up to become a head coach, even if it is in Buffalo. Maybe guys like Cowher, Shanahan, etc won't, but they can afford to choose where they go, most can't. I'd still love to see Brian Billick on the sidelines.

[Forward_Lateral]

I think his point was they cut Hangartner and he would have provided more depth. Say what you want about the guy, but he has started all year for Carolina.

At RG, not Center. Just want to be clear.

[BertSquirtgum]

It's mostly personell not coaching.

That's horse****

[Mr. Pink]

Jauron >>>> Gailey

[Ickybaluky]

At RG, not Center. Just want to be clear.

OK. However, you can't take away from the guy that he is a starter on the team with the 5th-best offense in the NFL in yardage and is tied for the 9th-most point. Yeah, they have Cam Newton and some pretty good talent, but he isn't a total stiff. He is an experienced player who is doing the job pretty well in a pretty good offense.

You can say he isn't the best fit for a power run game, and I'd probably agree. However, he is versatile enough to play anywhere on the interior and can succeed if put in position to do what he does well. He may not start for a lot of teams, but at worst he would be a pretty good backup for a lot of them. He can help a team.

[ddaryl]

:popcorn:

[trapezeus]

those young guys have seen other young guys like williams and mularkey come here and not even get close to beinga head coach again.

would you hitch your wagon to the bills if you knew patience would probably put you in a more stable program?

let's not forget how fruitless the search was two years ago. the young guys said no and got better gigs. the old guys said no and frankly weren't very interesting other than cowher.

in the end, the bills need to pay up and just yank an established team's program. like how indy took ours and how the bolts took ours.

this piecework format is frustrating.

[Forward_Lateral]

OK. However, you can't take away from the guy that he is a starter on the team with the 5th-best offense in the NFL in yardage and is tied for the 9th-most point. Yeah, they have Cam Newton and some pretty good talent, but he isn't a total stiff. He is an experienced player who is doing the job pretty well in a pretty good offense.

You can say he isn't the best fit for a power run game, and I'd probably agree. However, he is versatile enough to play anywhere on the interior and can succeed if put in position to do what he does well. He may not start for a lot of teams, but at worst he would be a pretty good backup for a lot of them. He can help a team.

I agree, but he's no better than Ubrick, IMO. Ubrick can play 3 positions, while Hang can play 2. Hang was also mediocre at Center, where he'd be now for the Bills. Ubrick is no worse.

If Hang was a LT, then I'd think cutting him was stupid, but at this point, I don't see how having him instead of Ubrick would be any better.

[Bill Cody]

That's horse****

No it's not. We have no stars. We have no depth. We have no QB. The guys on the other teams get paid too and usually they're just better. By and large Gailey has gotten this team to play hard. They are 3rd in the league for fewest penalty yards a game, 2 areas that reflect directly on the coach. Mike Shanahan is a smart coach, a good play caller. But the Redskins suck. Why? BECAUSE THE REDSKINS SUCK.

I've heard this "it's the coaching" every year for a decade as soon as things turn south. Is the coaching A1? No. Is coaching the main reason we can't win a ****ing game? Hell No.

[BertSquirtgum]

Is coaching the main reason we can't win a ****ing game?

Yes

[Mr. Pink]

No it's not. We have no stars. We have no depth. We have no QB. The guys on the other teams get paid too and usually they're just better. By and large Gailey has gotten this team to play hard. They are 3rd in the league for fewest penalty yards a game, 2 areas that reflect directly on the coach. Mike Shanahan is a smart coach, a good play caller. But the Redskins suck. Why? BECAUSE THE REDSKINS SUCK.

I've heard this "it's the coaching" every year for a decade as soon as things turn south. Is the coaching A1? No. Is coaching the main reason we can't win a ****ing game? Hell No.


Meanwhile Dick Jauron was able to string together 7-9 seasons with arguably an overall worse roster than what we see right now. If you won't say worse, you can't argue that the roster was better in 2008 than it is today.

Coaching is a big reason why this team has won 9 games in 2 seasons.

[SABURZFAN]

If Gailey doesn't make some serious changes to the staff this off season, his ass should be shown the door.


sorry Yardie.... this team is a joke because of the owner.

[Bill Cody]

Meanwhile Dick Jauron was able to string together 7-9 seasons with arguably an overall worse roster than what we see right now. If you won't say worse, you can't argue that the roster was better in 2008 than it is today.

Coaching is a big reason why this team has won 9 games in 2 seasons.

They changed defensive systems which did require a step back. I could care less about 5-11 vs 7-9, it's like saying your **** stinks worse than mine. I think there are coaching issues on the defensive side of the ball granted but more fundamentally we have no pass rush and a weak linebacking corp that you can't make good with coaching, there is a lack of talent there- look at the issues Mr. Genius is having in NE on the defensive side of the ball right now, scrubs are scrubs.

We started off this year getting solid to good QB play and now we're getting garbage QB play. That's not coaching. And the fact that when injuries strike we have assorted flotsam and jetsam coming in is not coaching. Would we be better with Amos Alonzo Knute Walsh Lombardi coaching the team? Sure. But how much better? Seriously.

[kishoph]

That's horse****

I disagree, this team could be 9 - 5 with any half way decent Quarterbacking in the last 7 games. Take a look at yesterdays play by play, almost every 3rd down fail was due to the ball be poorly thrown. My biggest problems with Gailey is his blind faith in Fitz, I'm sure he's lost some confidence, but he's not going to say that publicly and also his refusal to run Spiller more. Fitz has been horrible, every week he blows at least one sure TD by over throwing or under throwing wide open receivers to go on top of his throwing into double and triple coverage's continuously and having the ball picked off. As far as the Defense goes I blame Edwards and the players mostly because of being forced to play because of injuries. Chan does deserve some blame, because it is his job to remedy these problems, but he also can't do it after the season was well half over.

[Mr. Pink]

I could name a few young guys who I'm sure would love to just get a shot.


I'd love to give Marc Trestman or Kirk Ferentz the gig at the NFL level to see what either can do.

Ferentz is always a long shot cause the dude doesn't seem to ever want to leave Iowa.

But you're right there's always a bunch of young guys who'd love the shot to prove they can head a team at this level.

[Mr. Pink]

They changed defensive systems which did require a step back. I could care less about 5-11 vs 7-9, it's like saying your **** stinks worse than mine. I think there are coaching issues on the defensive side of the ball granted but more fundamentally we have no pass rush and a weak linebacking corp that you can't make good with coaching, there is a lack of talent there- look at the issues Mr. Genius is having in NE on the defensive side of the ball right now, scrubs are scrubs.

We started off this year getting solid to good QB play and now we're getting garbage QB play. That's not coaching. And the fact that when injuries strike we have assorted flotsam and jetsam coming in is not coaching. Would we be better with Amos Alonzo Knute Walsh Lombardi coaching the team? Sure. But how much better? Seriously.

Well we already have the proof that we were better off with Jauron over Gailey.

Jauron overachieved with a bunch of garbage. Gailey is garbage to go with that bunch of garbage.

However garbage is garbage and should be tossed to the curb.

Sure talent is a MAJOR problem...this team is about as talented as a 1st or 2nd year expansion franchise HOWEVER the coaching, all of it, is also a big problem.