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DraftBoy
01-07-2012, 06:36 AM
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/1/6/2686334/2012-compensatory-draft-pick-predictions

A few different people do these, here is one. This guy is pretty good. Not a big surprise the Bills would not get one.

Skooby
01-07-2012, 08:59 AM
We just can't get a break.

Night Train
01-07-2012, 09:07 AM
You don't get compensatory picks for Losing Your Way 12 years in a row.

SABURZFAN
01-07-2012, 10:23 AM
that's because they haven't lost anybody who is/was worth a ****. here's another reason...


2. Players earning minimum salaries do not count.

scartown
01-07-2012, 10:32 AM
I think they have a shot at getting one looking at the contracts poz and Whitner got. Teams don't necessarily have to lose more FAs than they sign to pick one up.

clumping platelets
01-07-2012, 10:48 AM
Brad Smith's deal cancels out Whitner

PromoTheRobot
01-07-2012, 10:51 AM
Neither Kirk Morrison, Tommy Thigpen, or Brad Smith contributed much for Buffalo. But signing two of them cost the Bills a 3rd rounder for losing Posluszny. :doh:

PTR

clumping platelets
01-07-2012, 10:52 AM
Net loss must be > Net gain both in contract value and numbers

We lost Whitner and Poz....we gained B. Smith, Thigpen

That to me means a net loss w.r.t contract value.........thus, we should get a 6th or 7th

clumping platelets
01-07-2012, 10:53 AM
We lost Whitner (a rd1 pick) and Poz (a rd 2 pick). I figured that would count for something.

PTR


Where a player was drafted has ZERO influence on comp formula

NOT THE DUDE...
01-07-2012, 03:22 PM
6th or 7th doesnt make much difference. we need to just draft better early...

TheGhostofJimKelly
01-08-2012, 06:50 AM
If this is true, this compensatory pick thing is the dumbest thing the NFL does. They lost Poz to pretty good money. They should be getting at least a 4th.

YardRat
01-08-2012, 07:07 AM
We'll get one, probably a seventh.

DraftBoy
01-08-2012, 10:03 AM
We signed Thigpen, Barnett, and Smith those three will cancel out Poz and Whitner. This shouldnt be a surprise to anybody.

Buddo
01-08-2012, 01:42 PM
If we do, it'll only be a 7th rounder, so no big deal tbh.
About the only thing that will help out, is how far the 49ers go, as I believe there's some factor in respect of teams' success who gets the FA. I know it's mostly contract sizes and net loss/gain amount, but I do believe there are one or two other factors.

gonzo1105
01-08-2012, 02:18 PM
We signed Thigpen, Barnett, and Smith those three will cancel out Poz and Whitner. This shouldnt be a surprise to anybody.

Barnett doesn't count in comp formula because he was released by the Packers

Bert102176
01-08-2012, 03:51 PM
so for losing poz and Whitner we get nothing once again the nfl screws the Bills

psubills62
01-08-2012, 09:03 PM
With the strange free agency period they had last offseason, I'd be interested to know what counts and what doesn't. IIRC, Morrison was signed pretty late and I would have guessed he didn't count.

TheGhostofJimKelly
01-09-2012, 05:44 AM
Poz - 6 years, $42 million
Whitner - 3 years, 11.5 mil

Thigpen - 3 years, 11 mil
Smith - 4 years, $15 mill
Barnett - 3 years, $12 mil (if his even counts.)

Loss - 9 years, 53.5 mil
Gain - 10 years, 38 mil


Not sure I understand this point DB. $15 million is a big difference. Also, the fact that the comparison is offense to defense, that should matter. This league needs to get rid of this, it is basically set up to give extra draft picks to teams that draft good and win.

DesertFox24
01-09-2012, 07:33 AM
We signed Thigpen, Barnett, and Smith those three will cancel out Poz and Whitner. This shouldnt be a surprise to anybody.

Barnett does not count since he was cut.

DraftBoy
01-09-2012, 07:34 AM
Barnett doesn't count in comp formula because he was released by the Packers

Good point forgot about that caveat.

DraftBoy
01-09-2012, 07:36 AM
Poz - 6 years, $42 million
Whitner - 3 years, 11.5 mil

Thigpen - 3 years, 11 mil
Smith - 4 years, $15 mill
Barnett - 3 years, $12 mil (if his even counts.)

Loss - 9 years, 53.5 mil
Gain - 10 years, 38 mil


Not sure I understand this point DB. $15 million is a big difference. Also, the fact that the comparison is offense to defense, that should matter. This league needs to get rid of this, it is basically set up to give extra draft picks to teams that draft good and win.

I'm not saying I understand it either.

The compensatory pick formula is still secret. While some people have figured out most of it, nobody knows the whole thing except for the NFL.

The writers comment about the Bills was;

Neither Kirk Morrison, Tommy Thigpen, or Brad Smith contributed much for Buffalo. But signing two of them cost the Bills a 3rd rounder for losing Posluszny.

DraftBoy
01-09-2012, 07:37 AM
Now it appears from the comments he may have not factored in Whitner, so who I knows. I know the guy who runs the site so let me see if I can get a hold of him.