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  • DraftBoy
    Administrator
    • Jul 2002
    • 107452

    2012 High Riser Team



    Every year we see countless media outlets produce countless All-American teams and every year they all look roughly the same with one or two surprises. We have nothing against those lists and in fact enjoy reading and discussing those lists every year. We wanted to create our own All-American team but not really make so much about being an All-American.
    72 players whose seasons had a positive effect on their stock many of whom you probably don't know yet.
    COMING SOON...
    Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
    We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!
  • Ed
    Registered User
    • Sep 2002
    • 9245

    #2
    Re: 2012 High Riser Team

    Your two DE's on the first team, Melvin Ingram and Whitney Mercilus, are two guys I'm really intrigued by and wouldn't mind seeing the Bills grab one of them.

    I've read that Ingram is versatile enough to play as a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 OLB. What do you think both of these players best positions/systems are?

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    • DraftBoy
      Administrator
      • Jul 2002
      • 107452

      #3
      Re: 2012 High Riser Team

      Originally posted by Ed
      Your two DE's on the first team, Melvin Ingram and Whitney Mercilus, are two guys I'm really intrigued by and wouldn't mind seeing the Bills grab one of them.

      I've read that Ingram is versatile enough to play as a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 OLB. What do you think both of these players best positions/systems are?
      Not all that high on either in all honesty. Ingram I see as a classic tweener. I know I definitely don't want him at 34 OLB ever. 43 DE, 34 DE, or 43 DT are probably where I'd project him. He's a strong side DE in a 43 who can move his man. However he's inconsistent with his motor, he doesn't have really good moves, and his hand usage is only ok.

      Mercilus is a guy who flew up draft boards with his sack numbers but isn't that strong v. the run. When 16 of your 22.5 TFL are sacks that usually says something about the run awareness. He hits like a freight train when he can get a running start and closes on the QB well. I think he's stiff in the hips and plays too upright though, he comes out of his stance high and stays high. He must get his pad level down some if he hopes be as effective in the pros.
      COMING SOON...
      Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
      We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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      • k-oneputt
        Registered User
        • Jun 2009
        • 7131

        #4
        Re: 2012 High Riser Team

        Jerel Worthy is better then and will be a better pro then every dt on your list.

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        • DraftBoy
          Administrator
          • Jul 2002
          • 107452

          #5
          Re: 2012 High Riser Team

          Originally posted by k-oneputt
          Jerel Worthy is better then and will be a better pro then every dt on your list.
          Which has no bearing on what this list is actually about. Did you read the introduction?
          COMING SOON...
          Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
          We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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          • better days
            Registered User
            • Jan 2010
            • 22028

            #6
            Re: 2012 High Riser Team

            DraftBoy, what do you think of the East-West & Senior Bowls as far as an insight to picks?

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            • DraftBoy
              Administrator
              • Jul 2002
              • 107452

              #7
              Re: 2012 High Riser Team

              Originally posted by better days
              DraftBoy, what do you think of the East-West & Senior Bowls as far as an insight to picks?
              I think it helps settle some discussions between player x and y in terms of rankings or helps you to know you need more film or to look at a guy again.

              In the end everything is still decided based on what the film tells you. Most scouts will get down to the all-star event the morning of the first day for official weigh-ins and only stay for 1-2 days of practice and almost never actually attend the game.

              Practice is for the scouts and personnel folks, the game is for the fans.
              COMING SOON...
              Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
              We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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              • TigerJ
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 22575

                #8
                Re: 2012 High Riser Team

                I've heard it said that a poor all star performance will not hurt a prospective pro player as much as a great performance will help him.
                I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

                I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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                • DraftBoy
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 107452

                  #9
                  Re: 2012 High Riser Team

                  Originally posted by TigerJ
                  I've heard it said that a poor all star performance will not hurt a prospective pro player as much as a great performance will help him.
                  Absolutely true.

                  You're going against the best of the best, so if you struggle to some degree that's ok. However if you dominate...well that's saying something.
                  COMING SOON...
                  Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                  We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                  • Mski
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 6753

                    #10
                    Re: 2012 High Riser Team

                    Originally posted by DraftBoy
                    Mercilus is a guy who flew up draft boards with his sack numbers but isn't that strong v. the run. When 16 of your 22.5 TFL are sacks that usually says something about the run awareness. He hits like a freight train when he can get a running start and closes on the QB well. I think he's stiff in the hips and plays too upright though, he comes out of his stance high and stays high. He must get his pad level down some if he hopes be as effective in the pros.
                    hmm sounds eerily similar to someone the bills drafted in the 1st round before
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                    • DraftBoy
                      Administrator
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 107452

                      #11
                      Re: 2012 High Riser Team

                      Originally posted by Mski
                      hmm sounds eerily similar to someone the bills drafted in the 1st round before
                      In fairness to Mercilus he plays much heavier than Maybin.
                      COMING SOON...
                      Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                      We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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