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  • NOT THE DUDE...
    Hall of Fame Zoner
    • Jan 2010
    • 8826

    do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

    how much cap room do we have and do we have a legit shot at cliff avril or mario williams?

    if not those 2, what other pass rusher will we get via fa?

    spencer, brooks, mathis, bierman??
  • BLeonard
    BoB Sabermetrician
    • Jan 2003
    • 4625

    #2
    Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

    I'm not a cap expert, but I'm 99.99% sure that cap room would not be a factor...

    Little known rule about the 2012 cap... Any unused part of the 2011 cap may be rolled over to the 2012 cap, which, in effect, would make the Bills' cap larger than teams that spent their 2011 cap.

    However, willingness to spend that cap space could very well be a factor.

    -Bill
    Last edited by BLeonard; 01-16-2012, 12:11 PM.

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    • ThunderGun
      Registered User
      • Dec 2011
      • 625

      #3
      Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

      No

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      • OpIv37
        Acid Douching Asswipe
        • Sep 2002
        • 101312

        #4
        Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

        Originally posted by BLeonard
        I'm not a cap expert, but I'm 99.99% sure that cap room would not be a factor...

        Little known rule about the 2012 cap... Any unused part of the 2011 cap may be rolled over to the 2012 cap, which, in effect, would make the Bills' cap larger than teams that spent their 2011 cap.

        However, willingness to spend that cap space could very well be a factor.

        -Bill
        This.

        The cap space is there but Ralph won't spend it.

        Do we have a legitimate shot? Yes. Will we take it? Most likely no.
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        • justasportsfan
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 71601

          #5
          Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

          they will just use the bills to bump up their price and re-sign .
          sacrifice1
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          • THE END OF ALL DAYS
            The Allen Era has begun.... no looking back now, come hell or high water!
            • Feb 2005
            • 4525

            #6
            Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

            they have to WANT to come here and noone does
            In my day we did not have self-esteem... we had self-respect, and no more of it then we earned.

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            • NOT THE DUDE...
              Hall of Fame Zoner
              • Jan 2010
              • 8826

              #7
              Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

              Originally posted by BLeonard
              I'm not a cap expert, but I'm 99.99% sure that cap room would not be a factor...

              Little known rule about the 2012 cap... Any unused part of the 2011 cap may be rolled over to the 2012 cap, which, in effect, would make the Bills' cap larger than teams that spent their 2011 cap.

              However, willingness to spend that cap space could very well be a factor.

              -Bill
              lets assume we resign stevie, bell, and chandler,

              stevie- 6 yr 48mil
              bell- 5 yr 25 mil
              chandler 4yr 10 mil

              how much cap room do we have left for 2012

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              • NOT THE DUDE...
                Hall of Fame Zoner
                • Jan 2010
                • 8826

                #8
                Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

                Originally posted by Why so Serious?
                they have to WANT to come here and noone does
                money talks dude...

                remember spikes, adams, milloy?
                Last edited by NOT THE DUDE...; 01-16-2012, 12:29 PM.

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                • OpIv37
                  Acid Douching Asswipe
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 101312

                  #9
                  Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

                  Originally posted by Why so Serious?
                  they have to WANT to come here and noone does
                  this is a BS excuse.

                  First, it's the FO's job to create a situation where players want to come here. If they are not doing it, then they are failing.

                  Second, crappy teams sign big- name FA's every year. But when it comes to Buffalo, no one wants to play here. I'm tired of it. It's time we held this team accountable instead of using BS excuses that don't apply to the other 31 teams.
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                  • THE END OF ALL DAYS
                    The Allen Era has begun.... no looking back now, come hell or high water!
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 4525

                    #10
                    Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

                    Im saying noone wants to come here because of the looser mentality and the crappy management
                    In my day we did not have self-esteem... we had self-respect, and no more of it then we earned.

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                    • THE END OF ALL DAYS
                      The Allen Era has begun.... no looking back now, come hell or high water!
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 4525

                      #11
                      Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

                      Originally posted by MARCELL DAREUS POWER
                      money talks dude...

                      remember spikes, adams, milloy?
                      That was freakin' EONS AGO
                      In my day we did not have self-esteem... we had self-respect, and no more of it then we earned.

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                      • NOT THE DUDE...
                        Hall of Fame Zoner
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 8826

                        #12
                        Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

                        would you guys be happy if we got ahmad brooks and draft upshaw or coples in the 1st?

                        obviously we need two rde..

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                        • BLeonard
                          BoB Sabermetrician
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 4625

                          #13
                          Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

                          Originally posted by MARCELL DAREUS POWER
                          lets assume we resign stevie, bell, and chandler,

                          stevie- 6 yr 48mil
                          bell- 5 yr 25 mil
                          chandler 4yr 10 mil

                          how much cap room do we have left for 2012
                          Not really enough info... How much bonus money are each getting?

                          How much of that is in "unrealistic escalators?"

                          What current Bills won't be here in 2012?

                          Just a couple of questions that would need answered. But, I'd be willing to bet that the Bills do not spend what they can spend, accordign to the NFL's calculations, which is the root of the problem.

                          -Bill

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                          • streetkings01
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 2980

                            #14
                            Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

                            Originally posted by MARCELL DAREUS POWER
                            money talks dude...

                            remember spikes, adams, milloy?
                            That was all Donahoe.........that only happened cause Ralph left him totally in charge.
                            You can call me streetkings

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                            • Jeff1220
                              H to the 12:20
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 6137

                              #15
                              Re: do the bills have a legit shot at getting mario williams or cliff avril

                              It seems Mario Williams and Cliff Avril are in pretty good situations w/their current teams. If the Lions and Texans come close w/compensation for them, those guys would be crazy to leave.

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