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Oaf
02-03-2012, 11:52 AM
Penned in as a starter next year at 4-3 MLB. Thoughts on his past year and drafted potential?

Cali512
02-03-2012, 11:56 AM
This was announced over a week ago lol

OpIv37
02-03-2012, 11:57 AM
He wasn't bad but I wasn't as impressed as some. The transition may slow his development some.

Ed
02-03-2012, 11:58 AM
I'm a big fan. I know he left plenty to be desired at times, but considering the shortened off-season and the fact that he was injured for most of it, really limited his chance to develop more. I think the bad angles and hesitation at times will only improve with experience. It sounds like he's a pretty smart player. I like his size and athletic ability, and he seems to play with some aggressive intensity too.

The Jokeman
02-03-2012, 12:01 PM
Penned in as a starter next year at 4-3 MLB. Thoughts on his past year and drafted potential?
I prefer him as an ILB in a 3-4 where his lack of speed wouldn't be as exploited as much as long as we had a true NT to protect him.

JCBills
02-03-2012, 12:02 PM
He wasn't bad but I wasn't as impressed as some. The transition may slow his development some.

Well he should be more comfortable back in a 4-3.

Cali512
02-03-2012, 12:07 PM
Well now he has 4 DL in front of him. Not only that directly in front of him will be Dareus and Williams. He should be fine. Him and Barnett blitzing with Dareus and Kyle in the middle will be hard to stop

EDS
02-03-2012, 12:08 PM
I expect him to become an average starter, nothing more.

T-Long
02-03-2012, 12:22 PM
I wonder what Posz is thinking...

DraftBoy
02-03-2012, 12:24 PM
I wonder what Posz is thinking...

It sure is warm down here in Jacksonville?

DraftBoy
02-03-2012, 12:25 PM
Penned in as a starter next year at 4-3 MLB. Thoughts on his past year and drafted potential?

Really like him better in a 34 because it protects him. He's not a down hill LB and he struggled at LSU with traffic. He can play the position and I think he has enough range but we don't need another poz where its 4 yards and then a tackle. We need to destroy holes and make hits in the backfield.

JCBills
02-03-2012, 12:26 PM
I wonder what Posz is thinking...

Really sucks we had to lose him over the 3-4 switch that didn't last. He was playing as good as anyone in that spot when they were 4-3 before.

JCBills
02-03-2012, 12:28 PM
Really like him better in a 34 because it protects him. He's not a down hill LB and he struggled at LSU with traffic. He can play the position and I think he has enough range but we don't need another poz where its 4 yards and then a tackle. We need to destroy holes and make hits in the backfield.

Poz posted nice numbers for yards allowed per tackle out of the 4-3. Well ahead of much more recognized players. Wish I still had that link. Especially absurd because most of his reads were pass-run in the Tampa 2.

ddaryl
02-03-2012, 12:33 PM
I still found Poz to be very slow footed...

but at the amount he was paid he wasn't worth it.

Sheppard will be a mystery. Lets see what he has after a full NFL offseason regimen and training camp... plus a years experience.

Still no reason to not take any LB if the right one falls to us

kingJofNYC
02-03-2012, 12:58 PM
I like Kelvin a lot. He has a way to go in pass coverage, bit of an understatement really, but as a downhill run force I think he can be excellent. Blew up several runs last year, but like Draftboy said, you better keep him clean. Like him better in a 3-4 than a 4-3, would be able to just concentrate on the run in that scheme.

better days
02-03-2012, 01:33 PM
It sure is warm down here in Jacksonville?

But here I am in the crappiest City in Florida on a crappy team with a crappy HC.

DraftBoy
02-03-2012, 02:15 PM
But here I am in the crappiest City in Florida on a crappy team with a crappy HC.

What does that have to do with the weather though?

EDS
02-03-2012, 02:57 PM
But here I am in the crappiest City in Florida on a crappy team with a crappy HC.

And to think, he could be in Buffalo on a crappy team with a crappy HC.

streetkings01
02-03-2012, 03:05 PM
I prefer him as an ILB in a 3-4 where his lack of speed wouldn't be as exploited as much as long as we had a true NT to protect him.Unless we're running Jaurons/Lovie Smith version of the Tampa 2 the mike doesn't have to be fast.

JCBills
02-03-2012, 03:09 PM
Unless we're running Jaurons/Lovie Smith version of the Tampa 2 the mike doesn't have to be fast.

Aye. Most 4-3 D's will still use some Tampa 2 concepts on certain calls, but nothing like we saw before. As long as the OLBs have decent range, the MLB doesn't have to run a 4.6

tampabay25690
02-03-2012, 03:42 PM
Shepperd I like alot.
But his speed is not fantastic at all but goo enough to do the job.
It will help him to have Williams, and Dareus in front of him to open lanes.....

SABURZFAN
02-03-2012, 03:48 PM
This was announced over a week ago lol


c'mon... give Oaf a break. the hockey helmet he wears slides forward at times and he missed it. then again, he was probably busy licking windows.

YardRat
02-03-2012, 05:42 PM
Aye. Most 4-3 D's will still use some Tampa 2 concepts on certain calls, but nothing like we saw before. As long as the OLBs have decent range, the MLB doesn't have to run a 4.6

It helps to have enough speed to drop back and cover the deep middle.

streetkings01
02-06-2012, 08:01 AM
It helps to have enough speed to drop back and cover the deep middle.Unless we're running a Tampa 2, Sheppard wont have to cover the deep middle.

NOT THE DUDE...
02-06-2012, 05:36 PM
shepp is a thumper with solid talent and size/speed. he will be fine.

Night Train
02-07-2012, 04:16 AM
Sheppard is better in a 4-3 with less coverage responsibilities, just like Kyle Williams is better at DT in a 4-3 without the double team he saw as a 3-4 NT.

4-3 is playing to the strengths of these 2 guys in a big way. We needed OLB's and DE's no matter what formation we ran.