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I doubt it. I actually think Kirkpatrick is a strong possibility at #10 assuming they can get passed the arrest. Nix spoke very highly of both secondaries from Alabama and LSU, and he said they would like to add a couple CB's. They don't seem to take chances with character issues though, so who knows. I think there will be at least one team in the first round that isn't deterred by his arrest. He's a phenomenal talent. Mayock is probably one of very few people who doesn't have him in his top 2 or 3 behind Claiborne. I'd be ecstatic if we got Kirkpatrick in round 2.
I doubt it. I actually think Kirkpatrick is a strong possibility at #10 assuming they can get passed the arrest. Nix spoke very highly of both secondaries from Alabama and LSU, and he said they would like to add a couple CB's. They don't seem to take chances with character issues though, so who knows. I think there will be at least one team in the first round that isn't deterred by his arrest. He's a phenomenal talent. Mayock is probably one of very few people who doesn't have him in his top 2 or 3 behind Claiborne. I'd be ecstatic if we got Kirkpatrick in round 2.
I have him as an alternate at #10 depending on how they see these DEs.
I could see:
1. Kirkpatrick
2. Curry
I'd be pretty happy with that for our first two picks.
I have him as an alternate at #10 depending on how they see these DEs.
I could see:
1. Kirkpatrick
2. Curry
I'd be pretty happy with that for our first two picks.
Yeah me too. I like Kirkpatrick a lot, but I think a lot of fans would be pissed if we drafted a CB first. If Coples is gone before #10 though, I don't know if the value is there to justify taking a pass rusher.
I've seen DE Andre Branch falling to to the second round in a lot of mocks also.
Yeah me too. I like Kirkpatrick a lot, but I think a lot of fans would be pissed if we drafted a CB first. If Coples is gone before #10 though, I don't know if the value is there to justify taking a pass rusher.
I've seen DE Andre Branch falling to to the second round in a lot of mocks also.
It wouldn't be my favorite, but we need help on defense in all areas outside DT and S. With the young Aaron Williams and Justin Rogers, still developing Leodis, plus a guy like Kirkpatrick, that makes for a solid, young, athletic CB corps looking forward.
I have Branch as a 2nd round DE right now. I like what Curry brings a lot more, as he has the power to surprise OTs and athleticism to beat them around the edge.
Once all the picks are set and we know what we have, I'll do my next mock, or at least a list of players by round that fit Buffalo's needs.
Dre will not be there IMO..
You figure between Dre and Janoris Jenkins both those guys are my #2 and #3 CB and both dabble with the weed....
But I think both are gone in top 20 and possibly top 15...
would you guys rather take upshaw or kirk with our first pick? assuming coples is gone...
I'd like to see Upshaw. Not that I would mind Kirkpatrick. I also like Keuchly but with Shepp being penciled in as the starter at MLB that may be unlikely.
I'd like a guy like Brandon Boykin at CB in a later round.
I'd like to see Upshaw. Not that I would mind Kirkpatrick. I also like Keuchly but with Shepp being penciled in as the starter at MLB that may be unlikely.
I'd like a guy like Brandon Boykin at CB in a later round.
I don't think Kuechly is worth #10, especially with where our needs really are.
Not sure what to make of Upshaw. If we're looking for a pass rusher to play RE, he might not fit the bill. The other end of that is looking at LE, someone who can hold up the strong side and provide some pressure. If he can work on his hand skills, he could end up being either, but right now, nobody knows what he'll end up. I'd rather look for a balanced prospect to play LE, or a sack specialist to play RE. Not saying he couldn't end up being either, I'm just shaky on it.
I don't think Kuechly is worth #10, especially with where our needs really are.
Not sure what to make of Upshaw. If we're looking for a pass rusher to play RE, he might not fit the bill. The other end of that is looking at LE, someone who can hold up the strong side and provide some pressure. If he can work on his hand skills, he could end up being either, but right now, nobody knows what he'll end up. I'd rather look for a balanced prospect to play LE, or a sack specialist to play RE. Not saying he couldn't end up being either, I'm just shaky on it.
On Keuchly, that's basically where it lands for me too. I like his production and would love to have him but a MLB is not a top need.
I think if you look at some 4-3 teams that have used shorter DE's you can find success stories. Dumervil and Freeney come to mind. The question when you give up size is if you compensate with speed, strength, or moves. Upshaw is an ox but may not be quick enough to get around the edge on quick LT's. Can he dip under them or bull rush? That remains to be seen. But, he's a playmaker and has been for many years now. He's very very good. But yeah, he may not be the ideal elite sack artist. I personally like him due to his intensity and ability versus both the run and the pass.
Put it this way. I'd give up 3 or 4 sacks a year if we gain more tackles for losses or stops at the line. I like that he's more well rounded.
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