mike Wallace

[Bert102176]

So the Steelers are cap strapped and can't franchise or probably even sign him, I would go after him

[Lexwhat]

Re: mike Wallace

He's a restricted Free Agent. Under the new CBA Rules, we would be required to give up a 1st Round pick for him if he signs with us.

[better days]

Re: mike Wallace

He's a restricted Free Agent. Under the new CBA Rules, we would be required to give up a 1st Round pick for him if he signs with us.

I could see a team like the Pats* sign him. Their pick is so low it is almost like a 2nd rnd pick.

[Ickybaluky]

Re: mike Wallace

He is a legitimate deep threat and #1 WR, but surrending the #10 overall pick for him, along with the big contract, seems a little steep for a team like Buffalo.

[better days]

Re: mike Wallace

He is a legitimate deep threat and #1 WR, but surrending the #10 overall pick for him, along with the big contract, seems a little steep for a team like Buffalo.

I agree.

[Meathead]

Re: mike Wallace

id rather have morley safer

[better days]

Re: mike Wallace

id rather have morley safer

Morley doesn't have Mikes speed.

[stuckincincy]

Re: mike Wallace

Franchise tags are on sale this year.

Under the new CBA, franchise tags are down anywhere from 11 to 37 percent.

Position-2011-2012:

QB-$16.1M-$14.4M
RB-9.6-7.7
WR-11.4-9.4
TE-7.3-5.4
OL-10.1-9.4

DE-13-1-.6
DT-12.5-8.5
CB-13.5-10.6
S-8.8-6.2
K-3.2-2.6

[better days]

Re: mike Wallace

Franchise tags are on sale this year.

Under the new CBA, franchise tags are down anywhere from 11 to 37 percent.

Position-2011-2012:

QB-$16.1M-$14.4M
RB-9.6-7.7
WR-11.4-9.4
TE-7.3-5.4
OL-10.1-9.4

DE-13-1-.6
DT-12.5-8.5
CB-13.5-10.6
S-8.8-6.2
K-3.2-2.6

The Steelers have more cap problems than any other team. If they want to keep Wallace, they will have to sign him to a more cap friendly number than the tag.

[stuckincincy]

Re: mike Wallace

Blurb from the Cincinnati Enquirer, 2/22/12:

..."Another big change in the CBA concerns restricted free agents. If a team wants to sign an RFA to an offer sheet, the highest tender now is just a first-round pick instead of a first and third. With the Bengals having an estimated $60 million in space, which would be the second-most in the league, some have speculated that they could try to sign Steelers receiver Mike Wallace to a huge offer sheet which Pittsburgh would be unable to match. If that would happen, the Bengals would give up their second first-round pick, which is the 21st overall, to the Steelers."...

Since CIN has two 1st picks (#17 via OAK, and their own, #21), it seems that the pick awarded is the team's own, not one acquired. FWIW.

[Ickybaluky]

Re: mike Wallace

Since CIN has two 1st picks (#17 via OAK, and their own, #21), it seems that the pick awarded is the team's own, not one acquired. FWIW.

If you sign a restricted FA, the pick you give up has to be your own or higher in that round. You can't trade down and then sign him.

[Bert102176]

Re: mike Wallace

I would give the 10th pick for him, or if he is there after the draft then it would be next years first I believe, but he is the Legit number 1 and deep threat we need not saying the Bills would cause the coaches and front office are all idiots and cheap bastards

[stuckincincy]

Re: mike Wallace

If you sign a restricted FA, the pick you give up has to be your own or higher in that round. You can't trade down and then sign him.

I'm not clear about what you are saying. CIN didn't trade down - they received OAK's 1st rnd pick by trading Carson Palmer on Oct. 18, 2011.

Are you saying that the new CBA demands that if CIN offered a tender to PGH for Wallace, it would have to be the higher of CIN's two spots? The Cin Enquirer sports folks don't think that is the case.

Enlighten me.

[Ickybaluky]

Re: mike Wallace

Are you saying that the new CBA demands that if CIN offered a tender to PGH for Wallace, it would have to be the higher of CIN's two spots? The Cin Enquirer sports folks don't think that is the case.

No. Compensation for RFA has always been picks at the same level or higher than the team's original draft position in that round. Cincinnati is slotted with the #21 pick, so the pick they give up with be that one.

If a team like Buffalo at #10 wanted to sign Wallace, they would need to have the #10 pick or higher to offer in compensation. They couldn't trade down and offer a lower first, it isn't allowed. That was all I was trying to say.

[stuckincincy]

Re: mike Wallace

No. Compensation for RFA has always been picks at the same level or higher than the team's original draft position in that round. Cincinnati is slotted with the #21 pick, so the pick they give up with be that one.

If a team like Buffalo at #10 wanted to sign Wallace, they would need to have the #10 pick or higher to offer in compensation. They couldn't trade down and offer a lower first, it isn't allowed. That was all I was trying to say.

Which is what the Cin Enquirer reporter said.


So were does this "or higher" come from? You're starting to fight a rear guard action here..