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  • NOT THE DUDE...
    Formerly MARCELL DAREUS POWER, now posting as DANNY BATTEN POWER
    • Jan 2010
    • 8826

    so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

    it's looking more and more like upshaw and ingram are not the premium pass rusher nix wants at 10. it's also rational to say we are not getting mario or avril...

    so what are we going to do for our pass rush?

    im thinking i might change my mind at 10... i think it might be jonathan martin..
  • ServoBillieves
    The Voice of Reason
    • Jul 2007
    • 6106

    #2
    Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

    What's upsetting is that Dwan Edwards has done a good job and now he's going to be a backup now... Oi this team has no foresight.
    Bye Bye Brady...

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    • kingJofNYC
      Registered User
      • Sep 2009
      • 5960

      #3
      Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

      Don't think they'll drop Edwards that quickly, we need a good DT rotation. Kyle and Dareus will need to be spelled. Troup and Edwards should see more than enough snaps, especially on run downs.

      Should be Troup/Edwards/Heard rotating in.

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      • Cali512
        Registered User
        • Jan 2012
        • 6393

        #4
        Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

        This is why i picked WR in rd 1. Doesnt seem like the staff sees any value at DE in round 1. I believe Bell gets resigned so i dont see OT in round 1 happening, and the only position that has value and fits whatt Nix wants (big able to catch the ball when not open) is Floyd.
        Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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        • NOT THE DUDE...
          Formerly MARCELL DAREUS POWER, now posting as DANNY BATTEN POWER
          • Jan 2010
          • 8826

          #5
          Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

          Originally posted by Cali512
          This is why i picked WR in rd 1. Doesnt seem like the staff sees any value at DE in round 1. I believe Bell gets resigned so i dont see OT in round 1 happening, and the only position that has value and fits whatt Nix wants (big able to catch the ball when not open) is Floyd.
          i dont think they go wr as they take a couple years to develop usually. i see them going kirk or martin... they will pickup a big time fa wr...

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          • Mr. Pink
            Peterman Sucks!
            • Mar 2006
            • 35303

            #6
            Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

            Originally posted by kingJofNYC
            Don't think they'll drop Edwards that quickly, we need a good DT rotation. Kyle and Dareus will need to be spelled. Troup and Edwards should see more than enough snaps, especially on run downs.

            Should be Troup/Edwards/Heard rotating in.

            Dwan Edwards should be traded to a team that runs a 3-4 for a mid round pick.

            He doesn't fit here anymore and yeah a 4th or 5th round pick isn't exactly ideal, it's much better than keeping a guy around who's a square peg in a round hole now.

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            • kingJofNYC
              Registered User
              • Sep 2009
              • 5960

              #7
              Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

              Disagree, we lack depth on the inside as it is. He played inside in the over/under fronts that Edwards ran, he can be rotated in.

              Bad idea to go into the 12 season with just Troup and Heard. Need depth up the middle. Can easily play a 3 tech or a shade in a 4-3.

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              • JCBills
                Registered User
                • Jan 2010
                • 3631

                #8
                Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

                Originally posted by kingJofNYC
                Disagree, we lack depth on the inside as it is. He played inside in the over/under fronts that Edwards ran, he can be rotated in.

                Bad idea to go into the 12 season with just Troup and Heard. Need depth up the middle. Can easily play a 3 tech or a shade in a 4-3.
                So can Spencer Johnson.

                I'd take a 5th or 6th rounder for Edwards no problem.

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                • Mr. Pink
                  Peterman Sucks!
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 35303

                  #9
                  Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

                  Originally posted by kingJofNYC
                  Disagree, we lack depth on the inside as it is. He played inside in the over/under fronts that Edwards ran, he can be rotated in.

                  Bad idea to go into the 12 season with just Troup and Heard. Need depth up the middle. Can easily play a 3 tech or a shade in a 4-3.

                  We can sign a guy who fits the position in free agency or use a mid round pick on a guy for the rotation. Either or.

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                  • tampabay25690
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 9670

                    #10
                    Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

                    Originally posted by kingJofNYC
                    Don't think they'll drop Edwards that quickly, we need a good DT rotation. Kyle and Dareus will need to be spelled. Troup and Edwards should see more than enough snaps, especially on run downs.

                    Should be Troup/Edwards/Heard rotating in.
                    Edwards at DT???
                    I think he may be a rotation with Kelsay and Carrington at End.
                    GO Gators!!!!!!
                    GO GATORS!!

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                    • tampabay25690
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 9670

                      #11
                      Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

                      Originally posted by kingJofNYC
                      Disagree, we lack depth on the inside as it is. He played inside in the over/under fronts that Edwards ran, he can be rotated in.

                      Bad idea to go into the 12 season with just Troup and Heard. Need depth up the middle. Can easily play a 3 tech or a shade in a 4-3.
                      Dareus, Williams, Troup, heard, and Spencer Johnson???
                      DT is the least of my worries.
                      GO Gators!!!!!!
                      GO GATORS!!

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                      • kingJofNYC
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5960

                        #12
                        Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

                        Spencer Johnson is ****ing dog ****, if he's on this team it's just another indication that we're going nowhere quick.

                        6'3" 300lbs, yes Dwan can play DT in a 4-3, bigger and stronger than Spencer Johnson.

                        Spencer Johnson, hahahahaha, dog *****.

                        Who needs depth when you have Spencer Johnson. Jesus christ. Mid-round pick, pipe dream.

                        Edit: We need Dwan, especially with Troup still be a question mark. Edwards is good against the run, better than Johnson anyway. Should be on this team.
                        Last edited by kingJofNYC; 02-25-2012, 06:45 PM.

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                        • NOT THE DUDE...
                          Formerly MARCELL DAREUS POWER, now posting as DANNY BATTEN POWER
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 8826

                          #13
                          Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

                          Originally posted by kingJofNYC
                          Spencer Johnson is ****ing dog ****, if he's on this team it's just another indication that we're going nowhere quick.

                          6'3" 300lbs, yes Dwan can play DT in a 4-3, bigger and stronger than Spencer Johnson.

                          Spencer Johnson, hahahahaha, dog *****.

                          Who needs depth when you have Spencer Johnson. Jesus christ. Mid-round pick, pipe dream.

                          Edit: We need Dwan, especially with Troup still be a question mark. Edwards is good against the run, better than Johnson anyway. Should be on this team.
                          i totally agree. dwan is stronger and bigger than spencer, and he is a better pass rusher at dt.

                          williams/edwards/heard
                          dareus/troup

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                          • Extremebillsfan247
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 3142

                            #14
                            Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

                            Originally posted by MARCELL DAREUS POWER
                            it's looking more and more like upshaw and ingram are not the premium pass rusher nix wants at 10. it's also rational to say we are not getting mario or avril...

                            so what are we going to do for our pass rush?

                            im thinking i might change my mind at 10... i think it might be jonathan martin..
                            Nix described both as being borderline size for playing the position the Bills need them for. I think your right. The better question is what can the Bills do about a pass rush? It is still early in the process, but it doesn't look like to this point that there is much they can do even if they want to. M. Williams wont come here because he is going to want to play for a team that's already been to the post season. The same is likely for Avril. Coples has some underlying issues that could cause him to slip in the draft order.

                            The Bills are in a tough spot at number 10 in the draft. This years crop of talent isn't very good. It's very top heavy, but once you get passed the first few prospects who most likely will get drafted before the Bills are on the board, there is a considerable drop in talent everywhere. A lot of what is in this years draft are undersized guys, guys with shady history, injury prone, or inexperienced at the position they are trying to be drafted for. Although, it is seen every year, I don't remember it being this widespread among the prospects, or at least not in recent years. JMO

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                            • tampabay25690
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 9670

                              #15
                              Re: so what are we doing about our pass rush at rde?

                              Originally posted by Extremebillsfan247
                              Nix described both as being borderline size for playing the position the Bills need them for. I think your right. The better question is what can the Bills do about a pass rush? It is still early in the process, but it doesn't look like to this point that there is much they can do even if they want to. M. Williams wont come here because he is going to want to play for a team that's already been to the post season. The same is likely for Avril. Coples has some underlying issues that could cause him to slip in the draft order.

                              The Bills are in a tough spot at number 10 in the draft. This years crop of talent isn't very good. It's very top heavy, but once you get passed the first few prospects who most likely will get drafted before the Bills are on the board, there is a considerable drop in talent everywhere. A lot of what is in this years draft are undersized guys, guys with shady history, injury prone, or inexperienced at the position they are trying to be drafted for. Although, it is seen every year, I don't remember it being this widespread among the prospects, or at least not in recent years. JMO
                              I sort of agree with you.
                              Im still shaking my head on what the Bills will do at #10.
                              DE really doesn't do it for me there.
                              So my other potions may be CB, WR, or OT
                              DE may be the FA route....
                              I do see the Bills adding a DE but probably 2nd round and later....
                              GO Gators!!!!!!
                              GO GATORS!!

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