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  • kingJofNYC
    Registered User
    • Sep 2009
    • 5960

    Terrell Thomas

    CB is a need for this team, Leodis stink, McGee is old/broken, and frankly Florence isn't that good.

    Which leaves us with Justin Rogers and A.Williams. Thomas was the Giants best CB by far, when healthy. An incentive laden deal may be worth a look, we need a true #1 CB and I'm not sure he's on the roster.

    Pats will make a hard run at him I think.
  • JCBills
    Registered User
    • Jan 2010
    • 3631

    #2
    Re: Terrell Thomas

    McKelvin finally started to play well last year actually. He's had no pass rush to allow them to make more plays.

    Florence is a penalty machine and gets burned deep too much.

    Rogers showed promise towards the end of the year. Looks like a solid dime corner.

    Williams is a guy I think they'll use in multiple spots. He's solid against the run and pass. Looks like he could be a good #2.

    McGee is old. Maybe he has something left, but they need more young corners regardless.

    CB is a 2nd to 5th round need probably. Wouldn't be upset if they took Kirkpatrick though.

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    • YardRat
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      • Dec 2004
      • 86147

      #3
      Re: Terrell Thomas

      I'd like to see them make a run at the Graham kid from the Bears.
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      • kingJofNYC
        Registered User
        • Sep 2009
        • 5960

        #4
        Re: Terrell Thomas

        Here's the thing with McKelvin, I actually think he can run with most WRs, but he falls apart when the ball is actually in the air.

        Doesn't have the ball skills, seems like he loses track of it, also loses coordination.

        A pass rusher would help everyone back there. I'm just not sure McKelvin has what it take to be a consistent starter, hasn't shown it yet.

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        • ServoBillieves
          The Voice of Reason
          • Jul 2007
          • 6106

          #5
          Re: Terrell Thomas

          Williams and McGee are a good starting duo. McKelvin (as JC stated) finally showed he can do something... If we can get Merriman and Kelsay off the edge (yes, I said Kelsay) to get some pressure and having Williams and Dareus up the middle... That's pretty formidable.

          4 down men, a simple blitz off the side or up the middle from Barnett, the QB is going to pretty much either throw it straight to a slant or with hands in his face toss the ball up for anybody. I think that McKelvin has the cognizance and the general ball awareness to find a jump ball and make something out of it...

          Now... Florence? He was just plain pitiful in coverage last year. I would prefer a pecking order of Williams, McGee, McKelvin, Rogers, then Florence in situational issues would be OK... but we need to either draft another or pick one up in FA.
          Bye Bye Brady...

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          • JCBills
            Registered User
            • Jan 2010
            • 3631

            #6
            Re: Terrell Thomas

            Originally posted by kingJofNYC
            Here's the thing with McKelvin, I actually think he can run with most WRs, but he falls apart when the ball is actually in the air.

            Doesn't have the ball skills, seems like he loses track of it, also loses coordination.

            A pass rusher would help everyone back there. I'm just not sure McKelvin has what it take to be a consistent starter, hasn't shown it yet.
            McKelvin can stay with most WRs I've seen him have to cover. He's a fluid athlete with top notch speed, we know that.

            The ball skills are still a weak point, but I can't blame the guy when the QB had 8 seconds to read and make the throw every time. It is extremely hard to cover for that long.

            Ball skills can be learned, as well as reading the WR to know when to switch to playing the ball. I think at worst he's a solid nickel corner. Not what you'd want from a 1st rounder, but if they go Kirkpatrick you could be looking at 1st 2nd and 1st rounders making up the nickel package.

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            • JCBills
              Registered User
              • Jan 2010
              • 3631

              #7
              Re: Terrell Thomas

              Originally posted by ServoBillieves
              Williams and McGee are a good starting duo. McKelvin (as JC stated) finally showed he can do something... If we can get Merriman and Kelsay off the edge (yes, I said Kelsay) to get some pressure and having Williams and Dareus up the middle... That's pretty formidable.

              4 down men, a simple blitz off the side or up the middle from Barnett, the QB is going to pretty much either throw it straight to a slant or with hands in his face toss the ball up for anybody. I think that McKelvin has the cognizance and the general ball awareness to find a jump ball and make something out of it...

              Now... Florence? He was just plain pitiful in coverage last year. I would prefer a pecking order of Williams, McGee, McKelvin, Rogers, then Florence in situational issues would be OK... but we need to either draft another or pick one up in FA.
              Honestly at this point Reggie Corner is better than Florence.

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              • Thief
                Registered User
                • Sep 2009
                • 820

                #8
                Re: Terrell Thomas

                A pass rush would make our current secondary one of the best in the league, IMO.

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                • Crisis
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 12738

                  #9
                  Re: Terrell Thomas

                  Originally posted by Thief
                  A pass rush would make our current secondary one of the best in the league, IMO.
                  You've seen our corners, right???
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                  • Buddo
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 1864

                    #10
                    Re: Terrell Thomas

                    Is Thomas actually healthy? He might not be capable of passing a physical atm - I just don't know tbh.
                    I do recall that the Giants want him back, but I don't know if they, or anyone else, will be making any deals with him until he's fit.

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                    • alohabillsfan
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 3206

                      #11
                      Re: Terrell Thomas

                      CB is a need for this team
                      Along with DE, OLB, WR, OT, TE, Depth at Guard, etc....

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                      • kingJofNYC
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5960

                        #12
                        Re: Terrell Thomas

                        Originally posted by Buddo
                        Is Thomas actually healthy? He might not be capable of passing a physical atm - I just don't know tbh.
                        I do recall that the Giants want him back, but I don't know if they, or anyone else, will be making any deals with him until he's fit.
                        From what I've heard, he wants a better deal than what the Giants are offering. Some concern about his leg, but they just won a SB with Webster and no one else.

                        I don't think they're priority is CB, they need to lock up JPP and possibly land a LB. They're pass rush is so good, makes everyone better. Unfortunately we don't have that luxury.

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                        • Mike
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3805

                          #13
                          Re: Terrell Thomas

                          Bills need to focus on the one area that will improve all other areas: pass rush.
                          Please Make Sense

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                          • jamze132
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 29290

                            #14
                            Re: Terrell Thomas

                            To think we wasted a 1st RD pick on McKelvin. I want to laugh but it hurts.

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                            • Night Train
                              Retired - On Several Levels
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 33117

                              #15
                              Re: Terrell Thomas

                              Extra picks in Rounds 4&5 is probably the spot where CB's will be found.

                              The early picks should be LT,DE,OLB.
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