The Official Trade for Tim Tebow thread

[Mindbender]

Let's assume (suspend disbelief) for now and say that the Bills want Tebow as their back-up/developmental QB. What would you be willing to give up for him in terms of draft picks.

Feel free to comment below about if the Bills should do this. Why or why not? :biggrin:

[Night Train]

I couldn't locate " The entire draft " as a selection ! ~ Mary Magdalene

[THATHURMANATOR]

If we traded for this guy I would lose my mind.... NO THANKS

[Night Train]

If we traded for this guy I would lose my mind.... NO THANKS

So there's an upside...

OK, 3rd rounder... :up:

[Bangarang]

This front office has been competent for a few months now. We're destined for that "WTF?!" decision to bring us back down to earth.

[imbondz]

This front office has been competent for a few months now. We're destined for that "WTF?!" decision to bring us back down to earth.

LOL!

[JCBills]

What?

Why does this thread exist?

[ddaryl]

http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/funny-celebrity-pictures-john-goodman.jpg

[djjimkelly]

i want tebow to miami lol so we can own him twice a year

[Night Train]

What?

Why does this thread exist?

The comedic possibilities are endless. Are you kidding ?

[justasportsfan]

well we do need a back-up plus we hired David Lee who will run the wildcat

:couch:

[Jersey1031]

Mark Schlereth said on ESPN Radio that while watching him in camp, his camp mechanics were so bad it made people wonder if Tebow was even left-handed... So no thanks.


Please discard this thread, it's sickening that it exists.

[Night Train]

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[mrbojanglezs]

http://youthfcog.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/craft_tebowing_post.jpg

[Philagape]

No thanks, we are already loaded at RB

[ThunderGun]

Ugh...

[Jimbuktu]

i want tebow to miami lol so we can own him twice a year


Same here.

Tebow sucks

[stuckincincy]

This is silly.

Fitz - in hoc signo vinces!

[The Spaz]

4th or 5th round pick no more IMO!

[PTI]

Tebow for a 7th, and turn around and trade Fitz to the 49ers after Alex Smith signs with the Phins!!! They would be desperate and give us a 2nd or a 3rd, we go nowhere with Fitz and he is way overpaid!!

[jimbohastle51]

remember folks our coach was a UF quarterback and if tebow fell to us in the beginning of that second round their was a good chance he would have been a bill. we have an extra 4th and and extra 5th. do not think or one second we would not give one of those up for him. That is pennies to give for him IF our coach really does like him as a player. He is no threat to Fitz this year either which would play well in the teams favor as there would be no QB controversy this season. Just saying folks if the bills can get him on the cheap and the cost is only a 4th or 5th do not for one second count the bills out of this.

[Michael82]

I want him to go to Miami so bad!

[PTI]

remember folks our coach was a UF quarterback and if tebow fell to us in the beginning of that second round their was a good chance he would have been a bill. we have an extra 4th and and extra 5th. do not think or one second we would not give one of those up for him. That is pennies to give for him IF our coach really does like him as a player. He is no threat to Fitz this year either which would play well in the teams favor as there would be no QB controversy this season. Just saying folks if the bills can get him on the cheap and the cost is only a 4th or 5th do not for one second count the bills out of this.
To say Tebow is no threat to Fitz is just silly and delusional, Fitzpatrick has proven one thing in the NFL, how to sign his name on a contract, that is all, he has sucked for almost his whole career and at his best season has been below average.

[Johnny Bugmenot]

Mark Schlereth said on ESPN Radio that while watching him in camp, his camp mechanics were so bad it made people wonder if Tebow was even left-handed... So no thanks.


Please discard this thread, it's sickening that it exists.
And yet his terrible mechanics led the Broncos to a playoff appearance and, on top of that, a playoff win-- things we haven't seen around Buffalo since the 1990s.

He's the archetype of a game manager. Not the most orthodox or physically skilled player, but he wins games when you need to win them. He pulls out game-winning drives when you need them.

[MidnightVoice]

I want him to go to Miami so bad!

If there was a poll option "Pay him to play for Miami" I would have voted for that :D

[Mindbender]

Wow, kind of surprised at the complete Tebow hatred. (not) But seriously, 23 (so far) of you wouldn't even give up a 7th rounder for him? If Thigpen hits the field we'll be praying (no pun intended) for Tebow.

[Jan Reimers]

I like Tebow as a person and an inspirational leader, but he is not an NFL caliber QB at this point. He would be a developmental project for most teams, including us. Since we could get a project QB somewhere in the middle of the draft, I wouldn't give up much for him, maybe a 3rd to 5th rounder. And Denver will want more.

[JCBills]

And yet his terrible mechanics led the Broncos to a playoff appearance and, on top of that, a playoff win-- things we haven't seen around Buffalo since the 1990s.

He's the archetype of a game manager. Not the most orthodox or physically skilled player, but he wins games when you need to win them. He pulls out game-winning drives when you need them.

Game manager?

You mean the team manages to try to keep him from throwing until they have no other choice?

You really think Tebow would have done that in a decent division? They were the best looking ugly chick this year. If his defense didn't keep the score close they would have been blown to bits every game they played a decent offense. Kind of like what happened when they came to Orchard Park.

[trapezeus]

faith aside, what are the bills going to do with tebow?

The broncos changed their offense completely to make it work. fitz isn't going to run that. So then you possibly have him as a wildcat option. But we already have that in brad smith.

and he still carries a first round contract to be used a few times a game. Seems very foolish to give up a single trade to get very little use out of him. Especially on a team that needs to use its 9 picks to add depth to handle the injuries that inevitably will hit this team.

[JCBills]

Instead of wasting the pick on what is not an NFL type QB by trading it, they would be better off drafting a project of their own that actually can throw a football.

[doug45]

I really can not believe the hate for this guy...Why.. because he has faith ??? He played great last year, much better than Fitz. I would love to see him come here, our team needs some faith.

[YardRat]

Hell no.

[JCBills]

I really can not believe the hate for this guy...Why.. because he has faith ??? He played great last year, much better than Fitz. I would love to see him come here, our team needs some faith.

72.9 is better than 79.1?

Those 37.9 QBR and 20.6 QBR games are where he was really able to shine in week 16 and 17.

I actually haven't seen anyone knock his faith in this thread. Plenty of NFL players are foolish enough to be religious, that doesn't affect anything.

Maybe they don't like him because he's not a good QB.

[Philagape]

And yet his terrible mechanics led the Broncos to a playoff appearance and, on top of that, a playoff win-- things we haven't seen around Buffalo since the 1990s.

He's the archetype of a game manager. Not the most orthodox or physically skilled player, but he wins games when you need to win them. He pulls out game-winning drives when you need them.

With a real QB, they wouldn't have needed those game-winning drives.

[Mindbender]

With a real QB, they wouldn't have needed those game-winning drives.

What about when Kyle Orton was starting? Or is he not a real QB? (I would totally accept this...just asking)

[JCBills]

What about when Kyle Orton was starting? Or is he not a real QB? (I would totally accept this...just asking)

Who knows?

They had the advantage of other teams literally not knowing what to expect for the first few games. NFL teams aren't used to stopping a college offense. As the season went on, they were figured out, and stopped them.

Orton wasn't lighting the world on fire, but hadn't been much more than a slightly better Trent Edwards.

[Night Train]

Orton is Bledsoe with half the arm...which is still 5 times better than Trentative.

Regardless, I don't like any of them.

[justasportsfan]

They had the advantage of other teams literally not knowing what to expect for the first few games. NFL teams aren't used to stopping a college offense. As the season went on, they were figured out, and stopped them.

Orton wasn't lighting the world on fire, but hadn't been much more than a slightly better Trent Edwards.


Pitts D didn't figure them out.

[THRILLHO]

I am on my phone so I accidentally clicked 7th rounds when I meant to click NONE.

[sam5767]

I think he'd be a decent back up to Fitzy....plus he would give us better wildcard option than Smith does....at least with Tebow in wildcard, there's a little more of a threat to throw.......I wouldn't give up more than 6th or 7th rounder.....and from what I hear, he may end up getting released anyway.

He's not that bad ....I wouldnt mind him as a wildcat option....

[TacklingDummy]

Trade for Freeney.

[OpIv37]

I get accused of "doom and gloom" for discussing the possibility of the Bills moving, but people get away with this crap?

Trading for Tebow is worse than the Bills moving, because it would ensure another 4-5 years of losing and the franchise sinking to a new low before moving anyway.

[TacklingDummy]

If losing means making the playoffs than I am all for it.

[JCBills]

I think he'd be a decent back up to Fitzy....plus he would give us better wildcard option than Smith does....at least with Tebow in wildcard, there's a little more of a threat to throw.......I wouldn't give up more than 6th or 7th rounder.....and from what I hear, he may end up getting released anyway.

He's not that bad ....I wouldnt mind him as a wildcat option....

They have a wildcat opion. Their throwing abilities are probabably pretty equal. Smith can catch and return though too, so again no point in getting a worse version of what they already have.

[sam5767]

They have a wildcat opion. Their throwing abilities are probabably pretty equal. Smith can catch and return though too, so again no point in getting a worse version of what they already have.



How many times did Smith throw last season? I think maybe once.....teams know that when Smith is in there, 99.9% chance it will be a run. At least with Tebow in wildcat, teams would have to somewhat respect the pass......NO....do not want him instead of Fitzy, but I think he's not a bad option as back up qb and occasional wildcard.....

[codabills]

And the winner is.

Bills shouldn't even consider giving up anything. Tebow should pay us to play.

[SABURZFAN]

What?

Why does this thread exist?


it gives the Tebow Lickers a reason to start a sausage party.

[imbondz]

how do we know this is the official thread? just cause it's titled that?

[SABURZFAN]

how do we know this is the official thread? just cause it's titled that?


because Mindbender says so.

[Extremebillsfan247]

Let's assume (suspend disbelief) for now and say that the Bills want Tebow as their back-up/developmental QB. What would you be willing to give up for him in terms of draft picks.

Feel free to comment below about if the Bills should do this. Why or why not? :biggrin:I wouldn't want Tebow anywhere near our team.

[Mindbender]

how do we know this is the official thread? just cause it's titled that?

Yes.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind bringing Tebow in for a mid to low round pick. He's like Brad Smith with more upside and an upgrade over Thigpen. How is that a bad thing?

[Philagape]

Yes.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind bringing Tebow in for a mid to low round pick. He's like Brad Smith with more upside and an upgrade over Thigpen. How is that a bad thing?

Honestly, on football merits alone, I could see that type of role for him.
But he's not worth the circus he would bring with him.

[SaviorEdwards]

The hatred for this guy is somewhat bizarre. I don't think the Bills would even be in the top 5 teams interested in him.

[BertSquirtgum]

Tim Tebows sucks at the quarterback position. He should be a running back.

[BertSquirtgum]

Tebow for a 7th, and turn around and trade Fitz to the 49ers after Alex Smith signs with the Phins!!! They would be desperate and give us a 2nd or a 3rd, we go nowhere with Fitz and he is way overpaid!!

Yeah. That's the dumbest thing ever. You think the Bills are bad with Fitz? They would be 10x worse with that bum Tebow.

[DasBills]

I'll pass, I can see it now. It's week one, and Fitzpatrick throws his first interception, right away the "should we start Tebow" chatter starts going crazy. For the first time in years the Bills have a decent QB, there is absolutely no reason to bring in Tebow.

[ServoBillieves]

Don't we already have Brad Smith?

[acehole]

Trade for Freeney.


This isn't bad.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

tim tebow for a 5th?

[Mindbender]

Didn't you see the official thread?

[NOT THE DUDE...]

Didn't you see the official thread?


nope

[ublinkwescore]

nothing higher than a 6th. Or a conditional trade for a pick next season.

[ublinkwescore]

conditional meaning based on his performance or how much he is on the field.

[Maximilli]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Tebow man let it go

[The Jokeman]

Only if it secured that he'd go to another team other than the Bills.

[Oaf]

Stop making threads please.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

do you guys think he is better than thigpen?

[NOT THE DUDE...]

Stop making threads please.

NO

[The Jokeman]

do you guys think he is better than thigpen?
Not significantly better as a result I don't want him.

[stuckincincy]

A club (and its' fans) that hasn't been in the playoffs since 1999 and rejects Tebow outright has no nose left to spitefully snip off...

[alnilla]

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[trapezeus]

a fan that likes players to play their positions well and not need to rely on everyone doing well and kicking 60+yrd fieldgoals and WR's pulling down terrible passes most likely doesn't want tebow.

if the bills were one gadget player away, i'd say, fine trade a 6 or 7 to get him to make it engaging.

tebow needs a seperate offense and at that he isn't particularly good. so he can't be a backup because a second offense would need to come in.

we also have a wild cat qb at this point, who actually contributes as WR too.

So tebow becomes less necessary by the moment. this team's need is depth at this point on both lines so that everyone else can be consistent.

the tebowmaniacs need to stop drinking the koolaid.

[ServoBillieves]

We already have Ti... I mean Brad Smith... Why would we need another gimmick/"weapon"

[Philagape]

Jim Rome of all people made a good point: A backup QB needs to be able to run the same offense as the starter. So that rules out Tebow as even a No. 2. Wildcat QB, OK, but not the guy who comes in if the starter gets hurt.

[Oaf]

I would give our second 4th rounder for Tim, and like his winning ways, there is no real rationale behind it.

It may or may not be a good thing I am not GM.

[Philagape]

like his winning ways, there is no real rationale behind it.

Thank you for providing a succinct microcosm of the fanboys' mindset (or lack of one).

Not calling you a fanboy, but that just summed it up so well.

[jamze132]

I'd like to have Tebow for 3rd and short from the Wildcat. He could run it, he could throw it, who knows. Maybe Gailey can get a play that has Fitz, B. Smith, and Tebow on the field and they can throw to each other before hitting Stevie on a triple fake reverse flea flicker.

[JCBills]

I would give our second 4th rounder for Tim, and like his winning ways, there is no real rationale behind it.

It may or may not be a good thing I am not GM.

Its a very good thing.

[Oaf]

Its a very good thing.
Let us then see what our second 4th rounder comes out to be, and what happens with Tebow.

[JCBills]

Let us then see what our second 4th rounder comes out to be, and what happens with Tebow.

Probably someone useful to the team, which Tebow would not be.

[Philagape]

Let us then see what our second 4th rounder comes out to be, and what happens with Tebow.

If the value of draft picks is solely how the player turns out, the Bills have had a lot of worthless first-rounders too.

[Oaf]

If the value of draft picks is solely how the player turns out, the Bills have had a lot of worthless first-rounders too.
Agreed. So if we were playing economics we'd be more likely to trade picks.

Because we have an extra 4th I'd be willing to trade that and Thigpen for Tebow and a 7th.

[stuckincincy]

Probably someone useful to the team, which Tebow would not be.

Not much of a distinguished history for recent Bills' 4th round picks:

Da'Norris Searcy
Chris Hairson
Marcus Easley
Shawn Nelson
Reggie Corner
Derek Fine
Dwane Wright
Ko Simpson
Duke Preston
Tim Euhus
Tim McGee
Coy Wire
Brandon Spoon

...which is par for the course for most clubs, I suppose.

I think DEN dumps Tebow on the cheap - a 4th would be a cheap price. He's a terrific football player, if not a terrific quarterback.

Were I a GM, I'd scour my roster to see if I can find a place for a guy who is willing to run through a brick wall for his team. You might be able to coach up skills, but it's a lot harder to coach up heart.

[The Natrix]

I'd much rather go with Fitz. I think Tebow could be a good situational player for a team like the Pats. The Bills have too many needs to be adding a player like him. Besides, isn't that what Brad Smith is for?

I really hope he goes to the Dolphins, and they make him the starter. That would be great.

[Figster]

We need a better backup and Tim Tebow is the best player available.

Tebow has experience, he's a proven winner, and could be used as a situational player.

This crap not bringing in a decent QB because Chan Gailey doesn't want Fitz's position compromised is BS

Buddy Nix needs to put his foot down and bring in (or draft) a promising young QB prospect for Gailey to start grooming

[The Jokeman]

We need a better backup and Tim Tebow is the best player available.

Tebow has experience, he's a proven winner, and could be used as a situational player.

This crap not bringing in a decent QB because Chan Gailey doesn't want Fitz's position compromised is BS

Buddy Nix needs to put his foot down and bring in (or draft) a promising young QB prospect for Gailey to start grooming
Tebow's a proven winner when you completely change your offense to better suit his talents as a QB but as a team they scored 18, 10, 38, 17, 17, 16, 35, 13, 23, 14 and 3 points respectively in his starts. I don't see how any team can actual sustain to win scoring less then 21 points a game unless you have an elite defenese, which we can all agree the Bills don't have. I agree with drafting a QB to develop behind Fitzpatrick this year just incase Ryan struggles.

[Figster]

Tebow's a proven winner when you completely change your offense to better suit his talents as a QB but as a team they scored 18, 10, 38, 17, 17, 16, 35, 13, 23, 14 and 3 points respectively in his starts. I don't see how any team can actual sustain to win scoring less then 21 points a game unless you have an elite defenese, which we can all agree the Bills don't have. I agree with drafting a QB to develop behind Fitzpatrick this year just incase Ryan struggles.

Adam Schefter made a strong statement recently saying with the addition of Mario the Bills D line could very well be the best in the league. Now we are trying to add Anderson (10 sacks last season)

who knows, We might actually have an elite defense when all is said and done...

Note: If you add the different rounds together its fairly evenly divided right now (56 yes in some round, 66 no way)