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  • Cali512
    Registered User
    • Jan 2012
    • 6393
    #1

    Top 10 and Decastro

    People keep saying hes the BPA, but if hes not a top 10 pick how is he BPA? Everyone has him from 13-16, at 10, we have the luxuary of having the last top 10 player. So who ever slips out of the top 9 goes to us, which would be Coples, Floyd, Blackmon, Kalil, Claiborne. So how is Decastro BPA? He didnt slip to us, no one has mentioned him in the top 10, and we have Levitre, Wood, and Urbik. So why get someone who is probably not on your top 10 big board at 10


    Luck
    Griffin
    Kalil
    Claiborne
    Blackmon
    Coples
    Floyd
    Brockers/Poe
    Richardson
    Ingram (put anywhere from 8-13, so im guessing hes on peoples top 10)

    Other players that are possibly on top 10 boards- Tannehill, Reiff, Dre

    Decastro in my opinion makes our team worse. He upgrades our RG position from a B to a A, but then our OT/WR are still Ds? Even if you get Brockers/Poe, there at least rotational. We have 4 good guards, none can play tackle on a consistant basis, so why the hell would we do that?
    Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions
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  • ddaryl
    Everything I post is sexual inuendo
    • Jan 2005
    • 10714
    #2
    Re: Top 10 and Decastro

    Really you couldn't have included this in the DeCastro thread that already exists.. Would have been a perfect place for this argument.


    IF DeCastro is the best OL in this draft.. If he is anything as good as Hutchinson.. then I would be perfectly OK with DeCastro at #10

    We still need OT's of course.. .but damn the running game up the middle behind Levitre, a healthy Woods and DeCastro would/could be pretty punishing
    Last edited by ddaryl; 04-06-2012, 12:09 PM.

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    • gonzo1105
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      • Jul 2002
      • 776
      #3
      Re: Top 10 and Decastro

      Who has Brockers or Poe as a top 10 guy. Brockers is being talked about as a 15-25 pick and Poe was thought of at 9 right after the combine. Now that people have looked at the tape he is siding back into the 11-20 range.

      To me the top 10 is interchangeable after 6.

      I would actually looking at a top 10 just based on talent and not need go with this as my board:

      1. Andrew Luck QB
      2. Trent Richardson RB
      3. Robert Griffin III QB
      4. Ryan Kalil OT
      5. Morris Claiborne CB
      6. David DeCastro OG
      7. Justin Blackmon WR
      8. Quinton Coples DE
      9. Mark Barron S
      10. Fletcher Cox DT
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      • Cali512
        Registered User
        • Jan 2012
        • 6393
        #4
        Re: Top 10 and Decastro

        Originally posted by gonzo1105
        Who has Brockers or Poe as a top 10 guy. Brockers is being talked about as a 15-25 pick and Poe was thought of at 9 right after the combine. Now that people have looked at the tape he is siding back into the 11-20 range.

        To me the top 10 is interchangeable after 6.

        I would actually looking at a top 10 just based on talent and not need go with this as my board:

        1. Andrew Luck QB
        2. Trent Richardson RB
        3. Robert Griffin III QB
        4. Ryan Kalil OT
        5. Morris Claiborne CB
        6. David DeCastro OG
        7. Justin Blackmon WR
        8. Quinton Coples DE
        9. Mark Barron S
        10. Fletcher Cox DT


        Really? Barron is top 25 pick, not 10! Cox is still not even close to top 10 on anyones boards?
        Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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        • Cali512
          Registered User
          • Jan 2012
          • 6393
          #5
          Re: Top 10 and Decastro

          Originally posted by ddaryl
          Really you couldn't have included this in the DeCastro thread that already exists.. Would have been a perfect place for this argument.


          IF DeCastro is the best OL in this draft.. If he is anything as good as Hutchinson.. then I would be perfectly OK with DeCastro at #10

          We still need OT's of course.. .but damn the running game up the middle behind Levitre, a healthy Woods and DeCastro would/could be pretty punishing


          Ya once again, you move our guard from a B to a A, and yet our WRs still are all Fs. So how much did we really improve? We had the number 1 OL in sacks, and by week 8, Jackson had almost a thousand yards
          Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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          • alohabillsfan
            Registered User
            • Sep 2003
            • 3206
            #6
            Re: Top 10 and Decastro

            Originally posted by Cali512
            Ya once again, you move our guard from a B to a A, and yet our WRs still are all Fs. So how much did we really improve? We had the number 1 OL in sacks, and by week 8, Jackson had almost a thousand yards

            So, your going need vice BPA?

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            • gonzo1105
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 776
              #7
              Re: Top 10 and Decastro

              Originally posted by Cali512
              Really? Barron is top 25 pick, not 10! Cox is still not even close to top 10 on anyones boards?
              Your not getting what I said. I said if that was my board that would be my top 10 just based on talent level. The reason why Barron isn't a top 10 pick is because of position and need not talent. There is no way Barron goes late 1. Dallas reportedly loves him at 14 and im sure the Jets would take him at 16. Scott Wright of NFL Draft Countdown,and a former scout who has been on NFL Networks path to the draft, has Cox going 9th overall. People were saying we should take Martin at 10 but but I don't think anyone thinks Martin is the 10th best player in this draft but people were talking about him there because of need and position not talent

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              • Philagape
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                • Jul 2002
                • 19432
                #8
                Re: Top 10 and Decastro

                NFP has DeCastro third overall. OurLads seventh.

                But none of it matters. You don't let draft geeks tell you who to pick. You pick who you want, and I want elite talent.
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                • mayotm
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 2333
                  #9
                  Re: Top 10 and Decastro

                  Originally posted by Cali512
                  Ya once again, you move our guard from a B to a A, and yet our WRs still are all Fs. So how much did we really improve? We had the number 1 OL in sacks, and by week 8, Jackson had almost a thousand yards
                  OUr WRs are all F's, huh? Whatever you say. Stevie is solid and could still get better. David Nelson is solid in the slot. Yes, they could use an upgrade opposite Stevie, but to grade the Bills WRs as an F is absurd.
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                  • ddaryl
                    Everything I post is sexual inuendo
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 10714
                    #10
                    Re: Top 10 and Decastro

                    Originally posted by Cali512
                    Ya once again, you move our guard from a B to a A, and yet our WRs still are all Fs. So how much did we really improve? We had the number 1 OL in sacks, and by week 8, Jackson had almost a thousand yards
                    It was because of our 3 step drop and throw Offense that we had low sack counts.

                    We can get good value on WR's after #10> this draft has plenty of WR's .. AND OUR WR"S ARE NOT ALL F's. Nelson was solid, Steve Johnson is pretty much a top WR in this league.... We also have Easley coming back and Roosevelt showed some flashes. Yes we can use an upgrade at the #2 WR spot... but that's it. We have solid #3 and #4 WR's on the roster already


                    We have multiple FA's on the OL next season as well.. if DeCastro is the best OL in thsi draft as many think he is.. it would not be a bad move at all.
                    Last edited by ddaryl; 04-06-2012, 12:59 PM.

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                    • Cali512
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                      • Jan 2012
                      • 6393
                      #11
                      Re: Top 10 and Decastro

                      Originally posted by mayotm
                      OUr WRs are all F's, huh? Whatever you say. Stevie is solid and could still get better. David Nelson is solid in the slot. Yes, they could use an upgrade opposite Stevie, but to grade the Bills WRs as an F is absurd.



                      When i say all, i mean all of our 2nd WRs. The options of the player on the opposite of stevie. Nelsons our slot guy. Brad, Hagan, and Jones as of now are all Fs, or at least D. I dont see how Brad, Hagan, and Jones are not an F.
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                      • Cali512
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 6393
                        #12
                        Re: Top 10 and Decastro

                        Originally posted by ddaryl
                        It was because of our 3 step drop and throw Offense that we had low sack counts.

                        We can get good value on WR's after #10> this draft has plenty of WR's .. AND OUR WR"S ARE NOT ALL F's. Nelson was solid, Steve Johnson is pretty much a top WR in this league.... We also have Easley coming back and Roosevelt showed some flashes. Yes we can use an upgrade at the #2 WR spot... but that's it. We have solid #3 and #4 WR's on the roster already


                        We have multiple FA's on the OL next season as well.. if DeCastro is the best OL in thsi draft as many think he is.. it would not be a bad move at all.



                        Urbik and Levitre. Thats it, and i doubt we dont sign them. I bet Levitre gets his contract during the season
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                        • ddaryl
                          Everything I post is sexual inuendo
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 10714
                          #13
                          Re: Top 10 and Decastro

                          Originally posted by Cali512
                          Urbik and Levitre. Thats it, and i doubt we dont sign them. I bet Levitre gets his contract during the season
                          Levitre deifnitley...


                          We are still woefully in need of quality depth. To me Urbik could be quality depth

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                          • Cali512
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 6393
                            #14
                            Re: Top 10 and Decastro

                            Originally posted by ddaryl
                            Levitre deifnitley...


                            We are still woefully in need of quality depth. To me Urbik could be quality depth



                            I think Urbik earned a year to prove himself. The way our OL is going theres a possibility that all 3 could end up being pro bowlers. As of now we have one of the best interior lines in the NFL. If you have that i dont see why youd wanna touch it. I dont think Urbik, wood, or levitre are even 25 yet. So i think we need to role with what we got. I think it would be even better to replace our old beat down CBs with a couple of young CBs. I dont think we would have a player over 30 that starts, but we have alot of young leaders, so the veteran leadership isnt needed. On our starting O and D, i think the oldest player is Flo, then McGee, then Barnett, than i think everyone else is below 30 that starts. I like our future, but i think Urbik is a part of the puzzle.
                            Last edited by Cali512; 04-06-2012, 02:00 PM.
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                            • mayotm
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                              • Jul 2003
                              • 2333
                              #15
                              Re: Top 10 and Decastro

                              Originally posted by Cali512
                              When i say all, i mean all of our 2nd WRs. The options of the player on the opposite of stevie. Nelsons our slot guy. Brad, Hagan, and Jones as of now are all Fs, or at least D. I dont see how Brad, Hagan, and Jones are not an F.
                              I see. We are supposed to decipher what you mean since you can't communicate it clearly.

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