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  • NOT THE DUDE...
    Hall of Fame Zoner
    • Jan 2010
    • 8826

    MY MOCK...

    2012 MOCK DRAFT
    1 RILEY REIFF OT
    2 VINNY CURRY DE
    3 RUSSELL WILSON QB
    4 TANK CARDER LB
    4 JOSH NORMAN CB
    5 CORYELL JUDIE CB
    5 MARQUIS MAZE WR
    6 MATT REYNOLDS OT
    7 BPA
    7 BPA
    Last edited by NOT THE DUDE...; 04-09-2012, 01:12 AM.
  • Jan Reimers
    Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
    • May 2003
    • 17353

    #2
    Re: MY MOCK...

    MAJOR DISASTER.
    Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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    • Bill Cody
      Registered User
      • Sep 2004
      • 11911

      #3
      Re: MY MOCK...

      Originally posted by Jan Reimers
      MAJOR DISASTER.
      no no it isn't see this guy doesn't actually pick for the Bills

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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        #4
        Re: MY MOCK...

        Originally posted by Sell Local Ralph
        no no it isn't see this guy doesn't actually pick for the Bills
        Maybe it was a personal comment.
        Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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        • NOT THE DUDE...
          Hall of Fame Zoner
          • Jan 2010
          • 8826

          #5
          Re: MY MOCK...

          Originally posted by Jan Reimers
          MAJOR DISASTER.
          why?

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          • CleveSteve
            Registered User
            • Apr 2011
            • 999

            #6
            Re: MY MOCK...

            Picks 3 and 4a are reaches but really it's not terrible. Reiff is probably the 2nd-best LT in the draft and Curry is a 3-down DE. Norman would be a nice pickup in the 4th. Judie's not bad.

            Probably better off taking your 2nd OT in the third (or an OLB) then taking Carder in the 5th or 6th. I think you could switch it up like this:

            2012 MOCK DRAFT
            1 RILEY REIFF OT
            2 VINNY CURRY DE
            3 MITCHELL SCHWARTZ OT
            4 JOSH NORMAN CB
            4 RUSSELL WILSON QB
            5 CORYELL JUDIE CB
            5 MARQUIS MAZE WR
            6 TANK CARDER LB
            7 BPA
            7 BPA

            Getting two guys who can start at OT would be a win for the Bills. Not my best-case scenario but not a MAJOR DISASTER imo.

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            • NOT THE DUDE...
              Hall of Fame Zoner
              • Jan 2010
              • 8826

              #7
              Re: MY MOCK...

              i think the bills have a higher opinion on wilson and carder

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              • DrGraves
                Registered User
                • Mar 2008
                • 2693

                #8
                Re: MY MOCK...

                I APPRECIATE THAT YOU USE CAP LOCKS BECAUSE I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO READ YOUR POSTS OTHERWISE!

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                • better days
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 22028

                  #9
                  Re: MY MOCK...

                  Originally posted by MARCELL DAREUS POWER
                  why?
                  Reiff at #10 & Wilson in the 3rd rnd are my biggest problems with your mock. Reiff is not a top 10 talent & I hate using a top 10 pick to draft for need. The 3rd rnd is way to high for Wilson, he can probably be had in the 5th. I also do not like your waiting until the 5th rnd for WR.

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                  • CleveSteve
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 999

                    #10
                    Re: MY MOCK...

                    Originally posted by better days
                    Reiff at #10 & Wilson in the 3rd rnd are my biggest problems with your mock. Reiff is not a top 10 talent & I hate using a top 10 pick to draft for need. The 3rd rnd is way to high for Wilson, he can probably be had in the 5th. I also do not like your waiting until the 5th rnd for WR.
                    I get this and it's a valid concern, but it will be very difficult to get a LT who can start at a passable level as a rookie outside the first round in this draft. I think the Bills should trade up for Kalil or trade down to take Reiff or Martin (maybe even Adams) but good luck finding a starting LT by the time pick #41 rolls around. I think if the Bills pass on Reiff he'll probably go 13 to the Cards, so at what point is he not a reach?

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                    • better days
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 22028

                      #11
                      Re: MY MOCK...

                      Originally posted by CleveSteve
                      I get this and it's a valid concern, but it will be very difficult to get a LT who can start at a passable level as a rookie outside the first round in this draft. I think the Bills should trade up for Kalil or trade down to take Reiff or Martin (maybe even Adams) but good luck finding a starting LT by the time pick #41 rolls around. I think if the Bills pass on Reiff he'll probably go 13 to the Cards, so at what point is he not a reach?
                      Reiff may not even be able to play LT any better than Hairston does. He has been projected at RT by most experts.

                      I would love for the Bills to get Kalil, but I doubt it happens. I would rather the Bills wait & draft Glenn or Adams than use the #10 pick on Reiff myself.

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                      • Jan Reimers
                        Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                        • May 2003
                        • 17353

                        #12
                        Re: MY MOCK...

                        Originally posted by better days
                        Reiff at #10 & Wilson in the 3rd rnd are my biggest problems with your mock. Reiff is not a top 10 talent & I hate using a top 10 pick to draft for need. The 3rd rnd is way to high for Wilson, he can probably be had in the 5th. I also do not like your waiting until the 5th rnd for WR.
                        Those are some of my issues, too, as well as drafting a DE in the 2nd when we just spent $120 Mil or so on 2 big time pass rushing DEs. Oh, and Carder is pretty much like Sheppard, and you'd like more than depth out of a 4th rounder.
                        Last edited by Jan Reimers; 04-09-2012, 10:05 AM.
                        Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                        • CleveSteve
                          Registered User
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 999

                          #13
                          Re: MY MOCK...

                          Originally posted by better days
                          Reiff may not even be able to play LT any better than Hairston does. He has been projected at RT by most experts.

                          I would love for the Bills to get Kalil, but I doubt it happens. I would rather the Bills wait & draft Glenn or Adams than use the #10 pick on Reiff myself.
                          Wait and draft Glenn or Adams where? I highly doubt either will be there at 41, I don't think Glenn makes it to 20 and I don't think Adams makes it out of the first.

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                          • better days
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 22028

                            #14
                            Re: MY MOCK...

                            Originally posted by CleveSteve
                            Wait and draft Glenn or Adams where? I highly doubt either will be there at 41, I don't think Glenn makes it to 20 and I don't think Adams makes it out of the first.
                            I agree, I think the Bills can either trade down from #10 or trade up from the 2nd rnd.

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                            • CleveSteve
                              Registered User
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 999

                              #15
                              Re: MY MOCK...

                              Originally posted by better days
                              I agree, I think the Bills can either trade down from #10 or trade up from the 2nd rnd.
                              Yeah, to me trade down and get one of the tackles around 14-18 is the best case scenario for the Bills picking up an extra second. I think this would be a great start of the draft for the Bills:

                              1. OT Martin
                              2a. OLB Lavonte David
                              2b. OLB Bobby Wagner
                              3. OT Schwartz (or Mosley or Massie)

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