Official 2012 UDFA Thread

[DraftBoy]

May as well get this started...already hearing rumblings about this. We'll have all the signings and a preview coming shortly as soon as the draft is over.

Ill post the link once it all goes live.

All UDFA Signings Here;
http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012-nfl-undrafted-free-agents

Bills UDFA Preview:
http://www.buffalobillsdraft.com/2012/04/2012-udfa-preview/

Bills UDFA Signings Tracker:
http://www.buffalobillsdraft.com/2012/04/2012-buffalo-bills-udfa-signings-thread/

[X-Era]

May as well get this started...already hearing rumblings about this. We'll have all the signings and a preview coming shortly as soon as the draft is over.

Ill post the link once it all goes live.I like that you got it started early.

I'm saying guys like ___ may fit:

Jeff Fuller- WR, Tex A&M
Dwight Jones- WR, UNC
Marquis Maze- WR, Ala
BJ Coleman- QB, Chat
Case Keenum- QB, Hous
Rishaw Johnson- G, Cal (PA)
Chase Minnefield- CB, Va
Matt Reynolds- OT, BYU
Levy Adcock- OT, Ok St
Andrew Datko, OT, Fla St
Brandon Ilndsey- LB, Pitt
Kellen Moore- QB, Boise St

[DraftBoy]

I like that you got it started early.

I'm saying guys like ___ may fit:

Jeff Fuller- WR, Tex A&M
Dwight Jones- WR, UNC
Marquis Maze- WR, Ala
BJ Coleman- QB, Chat
Case Keenum- QB, Hous
Rishaw Johnson- G, Cal (PA)
Chase Minnefield- CB, Va
Matt Reynolds- OT, BYU
Levy Adcock- OT, Ok St
Andrew Datko, OT, Fla St
Brandon Ilndsey- LB, Pitt
Kellen Moore- QB, Boise St

I have a preview coming as soon as the final pick is announced. None of those guys are on it. Just goes to show how much talent there is out there.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

please maze!!!!!!

[Mr. Pink]

I like Jermaine Kearse WR as a UDFA if no one picks him up.

Also would take a chance on Burfict as a UDFA.

[Slim]

Whose some good people to follow on twitter for UDFA signings?

[DraftBoy]

A few notes:
-After our final pick we will have 79 roster spots filled, camp limit is 90 so we have 11 open spots to fill with UDFA at least. We can take more just have to cut somebody.

-Only one of our 30 official visits is left undrafted as of now. OL James Brown, Troy

[DraftBoy]

Whose some good people to follow on twitter for UDFA signings?

Ill be tweeting via @BillsDraft, Im sure most of the insiders will have stuff. For the most part though its agents, players themselves, and that's about it.

The link above will have every signing of every team.

[Slim]

A few notes:
-After our final pick we will have 79 roster spots filled, camp limit is 90 so we have 11 open spots to fill with UDFA at least. We can take more just have to cut somebody.

-Only one of our 30 official visits is left undrafted as of now. OL James Brown, Troy

James Brown as an UDFA would be amazing.

[Slim]

He some physical limitations, but Dajohn Harris would be a good player for our PS.

[YardRat]

WR Dale Moss S Dakota State
WR Lance Lewis East Carolina
C Cam Holland North Carolina
FS (SS) Tysyn Hartman KState
DE Vince Brown Northwestern

[DraftBoy]

WR Dale Moss S Dakota State
WR Lance Lewis East Carolina
C Cam Holland North Carolina
FS (SS) Tysyn Hartman KState
DE Vince Brown Northwestern

Im hoping one of these guys ends up being our comp pick.

[Slim]

Im hoping one of these guys ends up being our comp pick.

Dale Moss? Do you know if he ever had contact with the Bills?

[YardRat]

Hell, he isn't worth a draft pick but I'd be OK with bringing Kellen Moore in also.

[BillsOverDolphins]

Dwight Jones
Marcus Fortson
Deangelo Peterson

[DraftBoy]

UDFA Preview;
http://www.buffalobillsdraft.com/2012/04/2012-udfa-preview/

Tracker link is in the top post! Let's go!

[Slim]

Paige-Moss would be a nice pick up. As an Irish fan I would like to see Jonas Gray here as well, although we are pretty deep at RB.

[DraftBoy]

Gray signed with Miami...damnit.

[Slim]

Gray signed with Miami...damnit.

That's a kick in the nuts.

[Slim]

Hearing any rumors about the Bills Db?

[DraftBoy]

Waiting....waiting....

[Slim]

Come on Buddy, bring in Paige Moss and James Brown.

Jeff Fuller and Dwight Jones would be amazing also, as I've been calling for either of them to be drafted since round 4 :ill:

[Slim]

Does anyone else feel like they could have walked into a combine interview wearing a turd as a hat and still came off as more impressive than Vontaze Burflict?

[BillsOverDolphins]

I'm surprised the Ravens didn't draft Burfict. That would be the perfect situation/environment for him to learn and mature in.

[wmoz11]

Kellen Moore to the Lions

<s>@</s>RapSheet (https://twitter.com/#%21/RapSheet): Source: Boise St. QB Kellen Moore will sign with the <s>#</s>Lions (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23Lions)

[wmoz11]

Derek Moye to the Dolphins per... Derek Moye.

[Slim]

I'm surprised the Ravens didn't draft Burfict. That would be the perfect situation/environment for him to learn and mature in.

I could see the Jets or Pats making a run at him as well.

[Slim]

Dale Moss to the Packers, bummer.

I hope we can get the other Moss.

[DraftBoy]

Hearing any rumors about the Bills Db?

Nothing.

[YardRat]

Dale Moss to the Packers, bummer.

I hope we can like the other Moss.

****

[wmoz11]

<s>@</s>InsideTheLeague (https://twitter.com/#%21/InsideTheLeague): Oregon CB Cliff Harris to Eagles

[Slim]

<s>@</s>InsideTheLeague (https://twitter.com/#%21/InsideTheLeague): Oregon CB Cliff Harris to Eagles

I liked him. Not much room on our rosters for CB's but still a good player.

[DraftBoy]

FSU P Shawn Powell is in!

[Slim]

FSU P Shawn Powell is in!

:rofl:

I would prefer it if they turned their attention to a more prominent need area.

[T-Long]

FSU, P Shawn Powell to the Bills

[psubills62]

FSU P Shawn Powell is in!
Turning into the Buffalo Seminoles.

[BillsOverDolphins]

I guess T.J Graham must be Jesus Christ come back from the grave. We sure are ignoring that need still.

[wmoz11]

D'Anton Lynn to the Jets

[Slim]

I guess T.J Graham must be Jesus Christ come back from the grave. We sure are ignoring that need still.


Jesus only has 28' arms.

[psubills62]

Jesus only has 28' arms.
28 feet??

[gonzo1105]

:rofl:

I would prefer it if they turned their attention to a more prominent need area.

Im a huge FSU fan and Powell is a beast. Its a shame he wasn't drafted because he was the 2nd best punter in the country last year. Dude weighs 240 too and it would not surprise me if he beat out Brian this year

[Slim]

May as well get this started...already hearing rumblings about this. We'll have all the signings and a preview coming shortly as soon as the draft is over.

Ill post the link once it all goes live.

All UDFA Signings Here;
http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012-nfl-undrafted-free-agents



Looks like the main site needs a bigger hamster.

[wmoz11]

<s>@</s>nfldraftscout (https://twitter.com/#%21/nfldraftscout): Chris Polk to PHI. Chris Owusu to SF. Per agent.

Shame Owusu has concussion issues. Polk is a hell of a player; can't believe no one drafted him.

[BillsOverDolphins]

Im a huge FSU fan and Powell is a beast. Its a shame he wasn't drafted because he was the 2nd best punter in the country last year. Dude weighs 240 too and it would not surprise me if he beat out Brian this year
Can he play LB too?

[Slim]

<s>@</s>nfldraftscout (https://twitter.com/#%21/nfldraftscout): Chris Polk to PHI. Chris Owusu to SF. Per agent.

Shame Owusu has concussion issues. Polk is a hell of a player; can't believe no one drafted him.

Great fit for Polk in Philly.

[BillsOverDolphins]

I agree on Polk, but he won't see much playing time behind those 2 Pitt RBs

[wmoz11]

Nick Sukay is a Bill. PSU guy.

He's a safety.. not very good in coverage, physical, decent athlete. Typical white PSU safety.

[gonzo1105]

I agree on Polk, but he won't see much playing time behind those 2 Pitt RBs


Polk apparently has a degenerative hip that is going to worsen as he gets older that is why he went undrafted

[Slim]

Im a huge FSU fan and Powell is a beast. Its a shame he wasn't drafted because he was the 2nd best punter in the country last year. Dude weighs 240 too and it would not surprise me if he beat out Brian this year

Did anyone else immediately picture Shawn Powell trucking Sean Taylor in the 2009 pro bowl?

[BillsOverDolphins]

Nick Sukay is a Bill. PSU guy.

He's a safety.. not very good in coverage, physical, decent athlete. Typical white PSU safety.
poor man's Coy Wire

[Slim]

Nick Sukay is a Bill. PSU guy.

He's a safety.. not very good in coverage, physical, decent athlete. Typical white PSU safety.

A ST guy.

[wmoz11]

A ST guy.

At best, yes. And I say that as a huge PSU fan. He is tough and physical, though.

[psubills62]

Not a Sukay fan.

[wmoz11]

Not a Sukay fan.

Isn't it bad to say when we're PSU fans ourselves? He's got some good attributes, but yeah, I don't see him making the team at all.

[DraftBoy]

Nick Sukay, SAF, Penn State

[wmoz11]

Little late, DB ;)

[psubills62]

Isn't it bad to say when we're PSU fans ourselves? He's got some good attributes, but yeah, I don't see him making the team at all.
Haha I guess, but I like to think I'm realistic about both PSU and Buffalo players. If he succeeds, that would be great. Just don't see it happening.

[Slim]

So the Bills have signed a punter with a thyroid problem and the guy who does the voice over work for Salem the Cat in Sabrina the Teenage Witch.

[DraftBoy]

And we are back up btw. Server got overloaded by the traffic. Should be good for the night.

[The Beef]

I guess T.J Graham must be Jesus Christ come back from the grave. We sure are ignoring that need still.

That and the fact Easley, Roosevelt, Hagan, Clowney and Martin will be competing for the 2 final spots behind SJ13, Nelson, Graham and Smith will be the 6th wideout.

[wmoz11]

Burfict to the Bengals... here's my shocked face.

[psubills62]

Site still isn't showing up, DB.

[wmoz11]

So the Bills have signed a punter with a thyroid problem and the guy who does the voice over work for Salem the Cat in Sabrina the Teenage Witch.

Who happens to be a huge Bills fan from Buffalo - full circle!

[Slim]

Dolphins got Fuller. Goddamnit

[BillsOverDolphins]

Dolphins got Fuller. Goddamnit
****!

[Slim]

Who happens to be a huge Bills fan from Buffalo - full circle!
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5228/mokwiththis.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/mokwiththis.jpg/)

[DraftBoy]

Love the Howell signing. He'll push to make the 53.

[Slim]

Love the Howell signing. He'll push to make the 53.

We have a roster spot behind Byrd. Howell is more of a SS though.

[BillsOverDolphins]

Fortson, Peterson, and Jones please

[Slim]

Give me Paige Moss and Dwight Jones damnit.

[Bone]

G.J. Kinne please

[wmoz11]

Oakland loves PSU players: drafted Stupar (yes, our former TE's brother), Jack Crawford, and signed Chaz Powell, who I imagine will make their roster. Great athlete and versatile.

[BillsOverDolphins]

Fortson, Peterson, and Jones please
btw, someone let me know if one of these scros gets snatched...udfa tracker ain't working for me.

danke

[Slim]

G.J. Kinne please

Went to the Jets.

[psubills62]

Haha I think the Dolphins and Jets have been reading Bills Zone.

By the way...I'd LOVE to sign DeOn'Tae Pannell, OG/OT from PSU...:whistling:

[DraftBoy]

If the site isn't working again tonight let me know. The host has dedicated extra help to it.

[The Jokeman]

That and the fact Easley, Roosevelt, Hagan, Clowney and Martin will be competing for the 2 final spots behind SJ13, Nelson, Graham and Smith will be the 6th wideout.
If looking for best WR of that group I'd give the nod to Clowney unless Easley finds a way to stay healthy. That said we still need a #2 WR. Oh well maybe next year.

[psubills62]

If the site isn't working again tonight let me know. The host has dedicated extra help to it.
It may have been my fault -- cleared my cache and it works fine now.

[Slim]

Haha I think the Dolphins and Jets have been reading Bills Zone.

By the way...I'd LOVE to sign DeOn'Tae Pannell, OG/OT from PSU...:smirk:

So the Jags have signed 9 players according to Neil Stratton. How do they pull this off exactly?

I feel like they sent out a mass text saying "Titties and sunshine! Sign with the Jags"

[kingJofNYC]

If Owusu isn't signed I hope we nab him, guy has skills, worth the risk.

[psubills62]

So the Jags have signed 9 players according to Neil Stratton. How do they pull this off exactly?

I feel like they sent out a mass text saying "Titties and sunshine! Sign with the Jags"
Jaguars always seem to get tons of UDFA's.

[Slim]

I mentioned it earlier but Dajohn Harris would be a solid fit in Buffalo.

[BillsOverDolphins]

****! Pats got Fortson

[psubills62]

****! Pats got Fortson
Dude, you're getting really upset over UDFA's. People do this every year and most of these supposed "studs" that all the fans want to sign... end up doing nothing. Don't worry about it.

[BillsOverDolphins]

Dude, you're getting really upset over UDFA's. People do this every year and most of these supposed "studs" that all the fans want to sign... end up doing nothing. Don't worry about it.
I'm a big U fan, and he's a stud.

[The Spaz]

S Ian Wild Mercyhurst.

[The Beef]

If looking for best WR of that group I'd give the nod to Clowney unless Easley finds a way to stay healthy. That said we still need a #2 WR. Oh well maybe next year.

I wouldn't argue the second part, but... when Chan was OC with the Steelers they made it to the SB with Yancey Thigpen, Charles Johnson, and Ernie Mills. He uses so many different 3 and 4 receiver sets I don't see him thinking he needs John Taylor or Alvin Harper as a true number 2.

You pencil SJ13 and Nelson in, in any package. Then you mix and match. Theoretically Easley and Graham should be the deep guys. Hagan gives you a good mix of size, hands and is a decent route runner. Naaman is about the same, just doesn't have the type of game to be a true number 2 or 3. I can go either way on Jones, I feel like he's a dime a dozen guy. I like Clowney because he is a shiftier guy. I'd like to see them keep 6 plus Smith.

SJ13
Nelson
Graham
Easley
Hagan
Clowney

However I think they keep five + Smith.

[DraftBoy]

RB Chris Douglas, Missouri St

[psubills62]

Jermaine Kearse to the Seahawks.

[The Jokeman]

I wouldn't argue the second part, but... when Chan was OC with the Steelers they made it to the SB with Yancey Thigpen, Charles Johnson, and Ernie Mills. He uses so many different 3 and 4 receiver sets I don't see him thinking he needs John Taylor or Alvin Harper as a true number 2.

You pencil SJ13 and Nelson in, in any package. Then you mix and match. Theoretically Easley and Graham should be the deep guys. Hagan gives you a good mix of size, hands and is a decent route runner. Naaman is about the same, just doesn't have the type of game to be a true number 2 or 3. I can go either way on Jones, I feel like he's a dime a dozen guy. I like Clowney because he is a shiftier guy. I'd like to see them keep 6 plus Smith.

SJ13
Nelson
Graham
Easley
Hagan
Clowney

However I think they keep five + Smith.
Agreed my five are SJ13, Nelson, Hagan, Clowney and Graham. Although Martin might stick because of his solid special teams play and Donald Jones might beat out Clowney because of familiarity with the offense.

[DraftBoy]

Ill have profiles on all these guys next week more than likely. After tonight Im going to need a couple of days to recover.

[Slim]

James Brown to Bears per DB. Would have liked to have him.

[Skooby]

Ian tweeted he's going to Buffalo!!

Mercyhurst safety Ian Wild ran the 40-yard dash in 4.56 seconds at his Pro Day workout, auditioning for NFL scouts at California (Pa.) and at the University of Pennsylvania.

The 6-foot, 208-pounder bench pressed 225 pounds 18 times, registering a 36 1/2 inch vertical leap, a 9-11 broad jump, a 4.10 in the 20-yard shuttle and a 6.89 iin the three-cone drill.

Wild was an all-conference selection who was named Scholar-Athlete of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year. He garnered some All-American honorable-mention notice.

[we are]

Don't like sukay at all. Never did.

The last psu udfa the bills signed was lydell sergeant and he was decent so maybe this will work out.

As to the raiders - PSU comment...they also drafted Wiz last year.

[The Spaz]

Ian Wild And Chris Douglas have some pretty nice highlights on YouTube if anyone wants to check them out.

[T-Long]

My wife went to Mercyhurst...pretty cool to see an alum sign with the Bills

[Slim]

28 feet??

Whenever you correct someones grammar just remember that nobody likes you.
-Jim Gaffigan

[BillsOverDolphins]

My wife went to Mercyhurst...pretty cool to see an alum sign with the Bills
I thought Mercyhurst was part of his last name. Whoops

[DraftBoy]

Slowing some now...still lots of names to decide.

[Slim]

Slowing some now...still lots of names to decide.

Still nothing on the UNC boys eh? Or Harris from USC?

[BillsOverDolphins]

Are Jones and peterson still out there?

[The Spaz]

QB Aaron Corp Richmond.

[DraftBoy]

We got a QB prospect!

Aaron Corp, Richmond

[wmoz11]

Was once a huge QB recruit IIRC. USC?

[Slim]

We got a QB prospect!

Aaron Corp, Richmond

I remember him from USC.

[DraftBoy]

Was once a huge QB recruit IIRC. USC?

That is correct

[BillsOverDolphins]

Does he have a gun?

[Bangarang]

Does he have a gun?

Apparently he doesn't.


Negatives -- Below-average arm strength, struggles to drive the ball down field... Didn't exactly light up FCS competition, threw for 20 touchdowns and 17 interceptions in 16 games over the past two years at Richmond... Struggles with his ball placement, doesn't have the accuracy to throw guys open and will miss throws he shouldn't... Threw too many interceptions, forces some throws... When pressured he loses his footwork, seems to panic... Had some really bad games, threw for one touchdown and four interceptions against UMass and one touchdown, three interceptions against Delaware... Although he's put on some weight, still a little on the thin side and has major injury questions... Suffered a season-ending knee injury during the fifth game of the 2010 season and cracked his left fibula in 2009 fall camp while at USC... Spent the past two years playing against FCS defenses, will need time to adjust to the pro game, should sit on the bench his first few years.

Read more at Sideline Scouting: http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings/2012/qb/aaron-corp/#ixzz1tOKZqXE5

[Skooby]

Bills added UDFA Aaron Corp

@BoyensJC: Aaron Corp to Buffalo Bills. The BIlls got a steal right there!

6'4'' 215 runs a 4.7

[wmoz11]

Corp is basically Tyler Thigpen, IMO.

[The Spaz]

Aaron Corp article.

http://m.ocregister.com/sports/corp-351049-lineburg-game.html

[Bangarang]

So Corp doesn't have good arm strength and threw a bunch of picks against FCS competition? Doesn't seem like anything that will make it out of training camp.

[Slim]

Bills sign CB Cris Hill from VT

[BillsOverDolphins]

I think Jones is still available

[BillsOverDolphins]

dp

[DraftBoy]

So Corp doesn't have good arm strength and threw a bunch of picks against FCS competition? Doesn't seem like anything that will make it out of training camp.

He has decent arm strength, its just not elite. He can make all the throws.

[The Jokeman]

He has decent arm strength, its just not elite. He can make all the throws.
Call me foolish but I'd rather have Austin Davis who last I heard was still available.

[DraftBoy]

Call me foolish but I'd rather have Austin Davis who last I heard was still available.

Committed to sign with Rams.

[we are]

Does he have a gun?

Youre the NFL gm, why don't you tell us?

[BillsOverDolphins]

Youre the NFL gm, why don't you tell us?
Oh, hi

[BillsOverDolphins]

Peterson a Ram

[DraftBoy]

OLB Garrick Williams, Texas A&M

[The Spaz]

LB Garrick Williams Texas A&M

[ServoBillieves]

'Tis the Year of interesting names to say the least.

[PTI]

Apparently he doesn't.

Sounds below average, just like Fitz with crap Fitz like numbers too.

[lightningbolt444]

Sounds below average, just like Fitz with crap Fitz like numbers too.


Give it a rest not every post needs to be negative on fitz.

[PTI]

Give it a rest not every post needs to be negative on fitz.

It wasn't, it was negative in Corp.

[lightningbolt444]

Sounds below average, just like Fitz with crap Fitz like numbers too.


Just give it a rest every post you make you mention fitz and how he sucks. Never mention the rest of the team and if you do you still throw a shot in at fitz at the end. We get it you dont like him. Deal with it hes our QB this year

[Skooby]

Buffalo Bills current UDFA:

Delano Howell, SAF, Stanford
Nick Sukay, SAF, Penn State
Shawn Powell, P, FSU
Ian Wild, SAF, Mercyhurst
Chris Douglas, RB, Missouri St
Aaron Corp, QB, Richmond
Chris Hill, CB, Virginia Tech
Garrick Williams, OLB, Texas A&M

[psubills62]

Last year they picked up like 3-4 UDFA safeties as well. Have to think one of these years they'll look to draft one early.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

its getting bare bones now...

[The Spaz]

OL Paul Madsen Colorado State. He is the brother of former NBA player Mark Madsen. Paul owns the CSU power clean record at 380lbs.

[mayotm]

I'm a big U fan, and he's a stud.He's such a stud that he didn't get drafted.

[Meathead]

dp
:link:

[alohabillsfan]

Give it a rest not every post needs to be negative on fitz.


Lightning use the ignor feature you will learn to love it wth several posters on here now.

[The Jokeman]

Cris Hill will sign with the Buffalo Bills per http://www.thekeyplay.com/content/2012/april/29/cowboys-draft-danny-coale-remaining-hokies-sign-free-agent-deals



Analysis: Hill is an underrated talent and is overlooked due to his marginal production in college. He possesses the talent to play at the next level and could develop into a solid dime back/special teams player for an NFL squad.

Projection: FA

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68782.html#ixzz1tRFBk8VC

[Extremebillsfan247]

Just something to be aware of with all the undrafted signings. Good article here. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/29/beware-unconfirmed-reports-of-udfa-signings/

[BillsOverDolphins]

He's such a stud that he didn't get drafted.

I said Jason Peters too would be a stud too.

Look, we're both Bills fans, scro. The only difference between us is that I'm usually right.

[mayotm]

I said Jason Peters too would be a stud too.

Look, we're both Bills fans, scro. The only difference between us is that I'm usually right.I'm sure when the Bills picked up Peters as a TE out of college that you predicted he would be a stud LT. Also, for the past three days, you've called every player from "The U" a stud. If they are all studs, why did most of them get drafted late or not at all? If "The U" was a team full of studs, why did they go 6 - 6 last year? Finally, the "scro" thing is super clever.

[BillsOverDolphins]

I'm sure when the Bills picked up Peters as a TE out of college that you predicted he would be a stud LT. Also, for the past three days, you've called every player from "The U" a stud. If they are all studs, why did most of them get drafted late or not at all? If "The U" was a team full of studs, why did they go 6 - 6 last year? Finally, the "scro" thing is super clever.

U picks are usually great value, which is why it would've been nice to grab some of those guys in the later rounds. But hey, if you're cool with blowing a pick on a 27 y/o guard instead of Streeter, dets cool i guess. Would've been nice to bring in some DL depth too (like Fortson) from the udfa pool, but I'm sure the 17 safties we picked up instead were better options.

If Fortson makes New England's final cut I'm going to laugh at you. Same goes for when our offense inevitably hits the skids again b/c of lack of weapons.

I'm sorry but i'm not giving in to the homer militia this year. Time to wake up, scro.

[mayotm]

U picks are usually great value, which is why it would've been nice to grab some of those guys in the later rounds. But hey, if you're cool with blowing a pick on a 27 y/o guard instead of Streeter, dets cool i guess. Would've been nice to bring in some DL depth too (like Fortson) from the udfa pool, but I'm sure the 17 safties we picked up instead were better options.

If Fortson makes New England's final cut I'm going to laugh at you. Same goes for when our offense inevitably hits the skids again b/c of lack of weapons.

I'm sorry but i'm not giving in to the homer militia this year. Time to wake up, scro.Yeah, apparently your homerism is reserved for "The U" which has been about as relevant as the Bills in recent years.

[YardRat]

Two spots left...

[BillsOverDolphins]

Yeah, apparently your homerism is reserved for "The U" which has been about as relevant as the Bills in recent years.
The U's players are still dominating the NFL, so my "homerism" is warranted. The Bills haven't dominated anything but the AFC East cellar.


That being said, I would take a lifetime of ****ty Hurricanes football in exchange for one Bills SB. I love this team, and just hate to see them not address one of the most important position in TODAY's NFL.

[mayotm]

The U's players are still dominating the NFL, so my "homerism" is warranted. The Bills haven't dominated anything but the AFC East cellar.


That being said, I would take a lifetime of ****ty Hurricanes football in exchange for one Bills SB. I love this team, and just hate to see them not address one of the most important position in TODAY's NFL.Refresh my memory, which players drafted from "The U" recently (last 4 - 5 years) are dominating the NFL? No argument from me that the Bills haven't dominated anything recently. I've never posted that they have.

[BillsOverDolphins]

Refresh my memory, which players drafted from "The U" recently (last 4 - 5 years) are dominating the NFL? No argument from me that the Bills haven't dominated anything recently. I've never posted that they have.
Jimmy Graham, for starters

[mayotm]

Jimmy Graham, for startersYeah, that's one. I'm not sure that's enough to support your opinion that the Bills are making a huge mistake by passing on players from "The U". You seem very critical of fans on this site that are in your opinion Bills homers. Yet, based on what you've posted about players from "The U" the past few days, it seems to me that you a homer about "The U".

[DraftBoy]

Ive been told three names in the last 24 hours that I can't confirm and won't post. If anybody can confirm;

OC David Snow-Texas
WR Jake Drwal-Lehigh

Let me know.

[YardRat]

Ive been told three names in the last 24 hours that I can't confirm and won't post. If anybody can confirm;

OC David Snow-Texas
WR Jake Drwal-Lehigh

Let me know.

That's only two.

[BillsOverDolphins]

Yeah, that's one. I'm not sure that's enough to support your opinion that the Bills are making a huge mistake by passing on players from "The U". You seem very critical of fans on this site that are in your opinion Bills homers. Yet, based on what you've posted about players from "The U" the past few days, it seems to me that you a homer about "The U".

Yeah, I'm very critical of homers who try to browbeat others who have dissenting opinions, just b/c they don't have rosy things to say about the team. Not drafting one of the elite WR's available was a mistake on our part. That's my opinion. It's a message board, where you'll tend to see opinions. Pretty cool idea, huh?

[DraftBoy]

That's only two.
Yea the third is from a school I've never heard of so Im going to look into that one myself.

Last year a couple of people tried to push fake players from fake schools out as signing with NFL teams. They were successful with a couple of sites so this year we are flagging anything that looks off.

[The Spaz]

Ive been told three names in the last 24 hours that I can't confirm and won't post. If anybody can confirm;

OC David Snow-Texas
WR Jake Drwal-Lehigh

Let me know.

Jake Drwal confirmed.

[The Spaz]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XZ23fTU-DxA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[BillsOverDolphins]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XZ23fTU-DxA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
We got us a Wayne Chrebet!:lol:

Seriously though, that highlight package was 10x better than TJ Graham's

[John Doe]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XZ23fTU-DxA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This guy has some great hands!

[we are]

We got us a Wayne Chrebet!:lol:

Seriously though, that highlight package was 10x better than TJ Graham's

11.5 YPC playing at lehigh...clearly hes the better player.

[Lone Stranger]

We got us a Wayne Chrebet!:lol:

Seriously though, that highlight package was 10x better than TJ Graham's


My impression as well. I hope they give him a legitimate shot.

[BillsOverDolphins]

11.5 YPC playing at lehigh...clearly hes the better player.
Didn't say he was the better player, now did I? Keep following me though, I enjoy having a ***** in tow

[psubills62]

Lehigh kid? My grandfather would approve (alum of Lehigh).

[DraftBoy]

Just heard from Drwal. He has NOT signed.

[The Spaz]

Just heard from Drwal. He has NOT signed.

My fault I thought I saw it from the official Lehigh twitter account.

[DraftBoy]

My fault I thought I saw it from the official Lehigh twitter account.

Not a big deal at all.

[CoolBreeze]

Just heard from Drwal. He has NOT signed.
Has he been in contact with the Bills? Looks like he can play.

[The Spaz]

David Snow is confirmed, it's on the Texas website and it has quotes from him. Don't know how good he is but he has experience at center and guard which Nix was looking for.

Article: http://www.dailytexanonline.com/pros/2012/04/16/snow-prepares-nfl-draft

[DraftBoy]

David Snow is confirmed, it's on the Texas website and it has quotes from him. Don't know how good he is but he has experience at center and guard which Nix was looking for.

Article: http://www.dailytexanonline.com/pros/2012/04/16/snow-prepares-nfl-draft

Was about to post the exact same thing. Good grab.

[DraftBoy]

Buddy Nix confirmed we have 89 roster spots filled, which matches up directly with our UDFA count.

[Jan Reimers]

That would mean we have added 10 UDFAs. Anyone have the complete list?

[Jan Reimers]

Buffalo Bills current UDFA:

Delano Howell, SAF, Stanford
Nick Sukay, SAF, Penn State
Shawn Powell, P, FSU
Ian Wild, SAF, Mercyhurst
Chris Douglas, RB, Missouri St
Aaron Corp, QB, Richmond
Chris Hill, CB, Virginia Tech
Garrick Williams, OLB, Texas A&M
This list, plus Madsen and Snow?

[DraftBoy]

That would mean we have added 10 UDFAs. Anyone have the complete list?

Check the link in the first post.

[acehole]

Check the link in the first post.


wtf is saf?

[DraftBoy]

wtf is saf?

Safety

[The Spaz]

UDFA LB Jeff Thomas Indiana has a tryout with the Buffalo Bills.

[DraftBoy]

UDFA LB Jeff Thomas Indiana has a tryout with the Buffalo Bills.

That will come next weekend when the Bills open Rookie Minicamp. Should be a few more of these try-out guys as well.

Correction: His try-out may be this week. Im currently trading emails with Jeff's agent on this.

[DraftBoy]

May have just gotten word one of my favorite prospects could be signing with the Bills.

[DraftBoy]

Got it!

Bills close out the UDFA class by signing Brown WR Alex Tounkara!

***** Awesome!

[DraftBoy]

I saw Tounkara live a couple of times, this is the big down field WR we've been asking for. Kid has massive hands, super smart, and great athleticism. Needs to get bigger but this kid has massive potential.

[Slim]

I saw Tounkara live a couple of times, this is the big down field WR we've been asking for. Kid has massive hands, super smart, and great athleticism. Needs to get bigger but this kid has massive potential.

I'm glad we added another big WR. Sounds a bit like Kamar Aiken though.

[DraftBoy]

I'm glad we added another big WR. Sounds a bit like Kamar Aiken though.

Aiken is smaller and not nearly as physical as Tounkara down the field. He's a similar mold but Tounkara has a longer stride.

Tounkara is also an interesting story because he was born in Belgium and I believe he knows 4 or 5 different languages fluently. He's probably one of the smartest people I've ever met.

Let me pull his official numbers from the event in March.

[The Spaz]

UDFA Derek Buttles TE/FB Derek Buttles also has a tryout with the Buffalo Bills. I I also believe Jeff Thomas is being brought in as a FB.

[The Spaz]

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[DraftBoy]

Some numbers:
Height: 6'3
Weight: 211 lbs.
Hand: 9 1/2"
Arm: 35 7/8"
40: Laser-4.55 Hand-4.50
10: 1.58
20: 2.72
Short Shuttle: 4.25
3 Cone: 7.22
Vertical: 32"
Broad: 9'9"

[Slim]

Aiken is smaller and not nearly as physical as Tounkara down the field. He's a similar mold but Tounkara has a longer stride.

Tounkara is also an interesting story because he was born in Belgium and I believe he knows 4 or 5 different languages fluently. He's probably one of the smartest people I've ever met.

Let me pull his official numbers from the event in March.

I'm not going to pretend like I know anything about this kid but he passes the eye test on paper. 6'5 and ran a 4.5 40. Good production his senior season. Fairly new to playing football. Hopefully he can make some waves during camp.

[Slim]

Some numbers:
Height: 6'3
Weight: 211 lbs.
Hand: 9 1/2"
Arm: 35 7/8"
40: Laser-4.55 Hand-4.50
10: 1.58
20: 2.72
Short Shuttle: 4.25
3 Cone: 7.22
Vertical: 32"
Broad: 9'9"

These are the official measurements. The Brown website lists him at 6'5.

[Oaf]

Why would hand times be listed when they use a laser?

[The Spaz]

Those are some long ass arms!

[The Spaz]

Also it looks Like UH S Nick Saenz is coming in as either a tryout or signed as a UDFA.

[DraftBoy]

Why would hand times be listed when they use a laser?
Because we used both. You have to keep in mind with events like this while the "official" times are all lasered, no team is using those. They are all still hand timing.

The hand timed 40, I did myself so I can verify the result.

[BillsOverDolphins]

These are the official measurements. The Brown website lists him at 6'5.
They also list him running a 4.81 40:lol:

Real talk though, I'm excited to see this kid play...hope he can push for a roster spot

[BillsOverDolphins]

Anybody have any game footage of him?

[The Spaz]

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[The Spaz]

Zach Brown RB Ptt will trout for Buffalo as well. Brown is 5-10 220

[The Spaz]

Gino Crump WR Arizona has a tryout with the Buffalo Bills.

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[psubills62]

I'm sure Saenz is a great kid, but I'm never a fan of highlights where it's mostly tackling downfield. Especially when you're a DB. Highlights are supposed to be when you don't even let them catch the ball.

[Oaf]

Because we used both. You have to keep in mind with events like this while the "official" times are all lasered, no team is using those. They are all still hand timing.

The hand timed 40, I did myself so I can verify the result.
More as a question of understanding, why do teams still do hand timing?

[psubills62]

Re: Tounkara - going to Brown does generally mean you're intelligent. Would be great if he pans out, probably worth stashing on the PS for a year if he shows something in camp.

Re: Crump - seems to have some natural ability in making people miss, but I've got a lot of problems with his route-running.

[The Spaz]

Another tryout Kevin Fitzpatrick WR Marist.

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[The Spaz]

Rumors of former Oregon QB Darron Thomas has a tryout with Buffalo too.

[DraftBoy]

Want to thank Spaz for the assist on many of these.

http://www.buffalobillsdraft.com/2012/04/2012-buffalo-bills-udfa-signings-thread/

I have some more info on Thomas in the link above though its not much. I have a few emails out to see if I can confirm anything. Thomas's agent is Drew Rosenhaus.

[The Spaz]

Want to thank Spaz for the assist on many of these.

http://www.buffalobillsdraft.com/2012/04/2012-buffalo-bills-udfa-signings-thread/

I have some more info on Thomas in the link above though its not much. I have a few emails out to see if I can confirm anything. Thomas's agent is Drew Rosenhaus.

Your welcome!

[The Spaz]

Bills agree to terms with 10 undrafteds

The Bills filled out their incoming class of nine draftees with 10 undrafted rookie free agents. Buffalo agreed to terms with a quarterback, running back, two offensive linemen, a linebacker, four defensive backs and a punter Monday. Here’s a thumbnail sketch of each of them along with some expert comment courtesy of the Bills scouting department.

Aaron Corp – QB – 6’3” 205 – Richmond
The Spiders quarterback was a USC transfer after a broken leg cost him the starting job with the Trojans as he was replaced by Matt Barkley. He threw for almost 2,700 yards completing almost 64 percent of his passes (63.7%) with 17 touchdowns and 13 interceptions last season.

“A good player overall,” said Bills scout Tom Roth. “A good athlete. He tore his ACL in 2010 and his mobility was better late in the year this past season. A tough kid that’ll stand in the pocket and take the hit. Above average arm strength and good touch. A good field presence and command of the team with excellent intangibles and very good developmental qualities.”

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/Bills-agree-to-terms-with-10-undrafteds/39808d2c-636a-4702-ae67-b78caa28784c

[DraftBoy]

I fully expect the Bills to announced Tounkara later this week. Terms were just agreed to today, and the person I spoke with spoke directly with him.

[stuckincincy]

More as a question of understanding, why do teams still do hand timing? It's a reliable thing for coaches to do. You can see if a player is dropping some time...injury, conditioning, just a bad day, or whatever. You don't want to level and locate lasers during practice.

A player's speed sans helmet, pads, etc., breaking one laser beam then running in a dead straight line to break another is useful in controlled climates. For drafting.

But it's more useful to time a player with a stopwatch, then do it again with full regalia, then again with jukes and jives, with experienced sets of eyeballs judging. You get to compare in practice. Player hurt? Need instruction? Dogging it?

There is always something to take into consideration regarding offensive player's speeds:

The offense owns the snap count. Ya get the jump on the D. Speed can go up if the skill player isn't covered, and it drops to the cellar if an opponent flashes an elbow from the git-go. Personally, I look for a wr with skill in breaking away from a shiver, or with a nice juke at the snap, then get separation and/or weaving to get open. Then you can use your jets.

A linemans' speed in the 40 is meaningless, unless you think your OL is going to be huffing away over more than a third of the field with some regularity. If they get ten yards upfield, it's because of nice blocking - not just by them, also usually with efforts by rbs and wrs.

:2cents:

[DraftBoy]

More as a question of understanding, why do teams still do hand timing?

There are ways to cheat the laser. The timings stops once the laser is broken, so if you swing you arms a lot when you run your hand can hit it before you actually cross.

Another thing is that the laser has to be hand started and there is a delay (hundreths of a second-to tenths of a second) between, eyes seeing the start, finger hitting the button and laser starting.

Lastly most coaches just trust their fingers more than a laser. I have a teams copy of the official combine results and you'd be shocked to see the differences. Full tenths of seconds different.

Personally I always hand time because Im in complete control of the time. I know if I was slow or fast. I've probably timed the 40, 5-10-5, and 3 Cone a couple hundred times. I feel very confident in my timing skills and trust them because of that.

[The Spaz]

Tounkara official

Providence, Rhode Island - Brown's All-Ivy wide receiver Alex Tounkara-Kone will get an opportunity to display his skills at the next level, signing a contract to attend the Buffalo Bills' three-day Rookie Mini-Camp on May 11.

http://www.brownbears.com/sports/m-footbl/2012-13/releases/201204302car2q

[The Spaz]

All-Ivy Alex Tounkara-Kone measured in at 6'4" and 211 lbs. putting him at the upper-end of the receivers available in the draft. His 4.22 Pro Agilty shuttle puts him in the TOP 20 of available receivers in the draft. He was at the top of the Ivy League in receiving in 2010 and was also in the tops in the nation. His 4.60 - 40 was better than #3 WR Kendall Wright of Baylor, #8 WR Mohamed Sanu of Rutgers and #13 Arizona WR Juron Criner. Tounkara-Kone's sure hands and precise route running will make him a valuable addition to an NFL roster.

http://brownbearblogger.blogspot.com/2012/03/brown-pro-day-tounkara-kone-newhall.html

[TedMock]

Re: Tounkara - going to Brown does generally mean you're intelligent. Would be great if he pans out, probably worth stashing on the PS for a year if he shows something in camp.

He is very intelligent and has an incredible story. I got to talk with him for a bit at the event DB mentioned. Kid is an economics major and speaks 5 languages. He did not start playing American football until his senior year in high school and that was because he wasn't sure what it was. He finally decided he wanted to play football (soccer), and expressed his interest to his teachers. So, they sent him to the football coach. Oops. He ended up falling in love with the game.

He is from West Africa (Guinea) and his gradfather won the presidential election there when he was young. A dictator took over and imprisoned his grandfather. The family fled the country and ended up in Belgium, then other parts of Europe, and eventually in the United States.

Due to his late start, he is extremely raw, but his physical abilities are there. His arms are freakishly long and he has very good hands. He's also very agile and could have tested better had he been properly trained for testing. Hopefully they can lock him into the practice squad and develop his potential.

[AndreReed83]

Hey DraftBoy,

Did Tulsa LB Curnelius Arnick sign anywhere? Not wanting Buffalo to get him, just can't seem to find any post draft info on where he might have signed, if anywhere.

[The Spaz]

Hey DraftBoy,

Did Tulsa LB Curnelius Arnick sign anywhere? Not wanting Buffalo to get him, just can't seem to find any post draft info on where he might have signed, if anywhere.

Not DraftBoy but I don't see him being signed by anyone yet.

[Skooby]

Delano Howell:

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/article835824.ece

[DraftBoy]

Howell will be interesting because our safety depth isn't great and he is very good. He had a down senior year due to injuries but watching him as a Junior he looked like a solid Day 2 pick.

[Skooby]

Howell will be interesting because our safety depth isn't great and he is very good. He had a down senior year due to injuries but watching him as a Junior he looked like a solid Day 2 pick.

Fingers crossed.

[ddaryl]

Gino Crump WR Arizona has a tryout with the Buffalo Bills.

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boy if highlight reels only told and entire story. T

I liked this guys attitude


http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/index.php/article/2012/05/former_ua_receiver_gino_crump_signed_by_bills



As for his new Buffalo digs, Crump said he isn’t concerned with the dramatic weather change.
“Man, I’m ready to go to Antarctica,” Crump said, laughing. “I’m willing to do whatever it takes. I think I proved that during my time at Arizona and I just want to continue on that train, with hard work and dedicating myself to my craft, and just being a real professional. At this point I’m excited about the opportunity, even though it’s not set in stone

[acehole]

Looks good to me...goes over middle...we we see a couple of ther udfa make team...


I like the udfa we got....guys who where looked over who just need a chance.



boy if highlight reels only told and entire story. T

I liked this guys attitude


http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/index.php/article/2012/05/former_ua_receiver_gino_crump_signed_by_bills

[Oaf]

There are ways to cheat the laser. The timings stops once the laser is broken, so if you swing you arms a lot when you run your hand can hit it before you actually cross.

Another thing is that the laser has to be hand started and there is a delay (hundreths of a second-to tenths of a second) between, eyes seeing the start, finger hitting the button and laser starting.

Lastly most coaches just trust their fingers more than a laser. I have a teams copy of the official combine results and you'd be shocked to see the differences. Full tenths of seconds different.

Personally I always hand time because Im in complete control of the time. I know if I was slow or fast. I've probably timed the 40, 5-10-5, and 3 Cone a couple hundred times. I feel very confident in my timing skills and trust them because of that.
Thanks for the input DB and Cinci.

Alex T was wearing #83 in that pic. Nice! Love that number on Bills WRs. Hope he sticks around.

[DraftBoy]

There is a Providence newspaper saying he's only coming in as a try-out so there is some confusion as to his status as a UDFA signing or just a try-out.

Anyways two more try-out guys in Alabama A&M's Corey Hart and Texas Southern's Jonathan Hollins. Hart put up big numbers in the SWAC while Hollins was a transfer down from Arizona. I've seen both guys live at the HBCU Bowl, Hollins is huge, while Hart is a bit undersized.

[The Spaz]

Corey Hart

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2hFkYBnL2AU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[BillsOverDolphins]

Corey Hart

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2hFkYBnL2AU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Does he wear his sunglasses at night?

[DraftBoy]

Bills add QB Alex Tanney to try-out list! One of our top UDFA targets!

[The Spaz]

Bills add QB Alex Tanney to try-out list! One of our top UDFA targets!

I know he has one hell of a trick shot video!:)

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/SxDJb03a0yo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Skooby]

Bills add QB Alex Tanney to try-out list! One of our top UDFA targets!

This kid can throw a 50 yard pass accurately from his knees, he hit the goal post (basically in the middle) from the 40 yard line on a video I watched.

[The Spaz]

He may also be superhuman:

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20110806/sports/708069947/

[cbatl32]

Bills add QB Alex Tanney to try-out list! One of our top UDFA targets!

Would be nice if he or Corp show enough potential to make the practice squad as a long term option for us. Seems like they both have a ton of talent, just need a chance.

[YardRat]

Bills add QB Alex Tanney to try-out list! One of our top UDFA targets!

Did the Steelers release him already?

http://www.whbf.com/story/17926818/monmouths-tanney-agrees-with-steelers

[The Spaz]

Did the Steelers release him already?

http://www.whbf.com/story/17926818/monmouths-tanney-agrees-with-steelers

He decided Buffalo gave him a better opportunity.

[The Spaz]

WR Derrick Session Maine added to tryout with with his fellow teammate Derrick Buttles.

http://www.goblackbears.com/sports/m-footbl/2011-12/releases/20120501xei4d0

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[DraftBoy]

Did the Steelers release him already?

http://www.whbf.com/story/17926818/monmouths-tanney-agrees-with-steelers

Nope given the choice between us and the Steelers he choose us.

[The Spaz]

Nick Clark LB Alfred State will tryout at Bills camp next week.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0SyHRgxJNv0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[DraftBoy]

Nick Clark LB Alfred State will tryout at Bills camp next week.

Was very good at the 2012 BSN Collegiate Showcase. Plus athleticism, solid instincts, and a good tackler.

[DraftBoy]

Bills have 22 UDFA's thus far through either signings or try-outs;
http://www.buffalobillsdraft.com/2012/04/2012-buffalo-bills-udfa-signings-thread/

[wmoz11]

D3! D3! D3!

Love it.

[Jan Reimers]

After watching the Tanney video, I have only one thing to say: Goodbye, Fitz.

[The Spaz]

Byron Mulkey UB Basketball will tryout for the Buffalo Bills. most Likely at WR or DB.

http://www.buffalobulls.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/releases/20120502xipee7

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[Dr. Lecter]

After watching the Tanney video, I have only one thing to say: Goodbye, Fitz.


Please do not give MDP any ideas for threads.Please.

(Or PTI)

[DraftBoy]

Please do not give MDP any ideas for threads.Please.

(Or PTI)

If you guys thought my Joique Bell crush was bad...if Tanney makes it to camp...watch out...

[Bulldog]

Nick Clark LB Alfred State will tryout at Bills camp next week.

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That's Alfred University, not Alfred State. The AU alums such as myself don't take too kindly to confusing the two. :laughing: Go Saxons!

[JCBills]

If you guys thought my Joique Bell crush was bad...if Tanney makes it to camp...watch out...

Oh god lol.

[DraftBoy]

Oh god lol.

:biggrin:

[The last buffalo fan]

Tounkara & Tanney look good to me! :pray:

[JCBills]

I really hope they do get rid of some dead weight and give these guys a shot. They have had good results in recent years with UDFA players.

[DraftBoy]

As was pointed out to me and Ive said on Twitter the Bills have signed/brought in for try-outs 5-6 players this offseason that I haven't seen discussed anywhere but my site.

Most notably Im referring to Alex Tounkara, Alex Tanney, and to a lesser extent Nick Clark. Im not saying they got the names from my site but it does feel good to know what Im seeing is what some teams are seeing.

[acehole]

Tounkara & Tanney look good to me! :pray:


T N T

[k-oneputt]

I really hope they do get rid of some dead weight and give these guys a shot. They have had good results in recent years with UDFA players.

Yeah and most played in the SEC.
They play a little different type of ball then you see at Monmouth and Alfred,
you guys gotta get over this small school infatuation. Modrak and his gang of diots tried that for a decade and you've seen where that got us.

[Jan Reimers]

Yeah, those guys from small schools like McNeese State, Kutztown, Chadron State, Coe College, and South Dakota State never make it.

[malvado78]

Yeah, those guys from small schools like McNeese State, Kutztown, Chadron State, Coe College, and South Dakota State never make it.

What you did there... I see it.

[k-oneputt]

That's good, problem is only Freddie has made it since our Super Bowl years.
I'm all for free agents, Arkansas {twice, Florida, Tenn.

All starters by the way. Couple of pro bowls too.

You guys are crazy over players that have no shot of ever contributing this season.

[k-oneputt]

Are you actually referring to Sestak ? That's before most of these guys were even born.
Reed, Beebe 80's.

At least we got Freddie.

[Dr. Lecter]

Yeah and most played in the SEC.
They play a little different type of ball then you see at Monmouth and Alfred,
you guys gotta get over this small school infatuation. Modrak and his gang of diots tried that for a decade and you've seen where that got us.
There is a difference between infatuation and ignoring them

You need to at least be open to the idea that there is a possibility that these guys can play. It is not totally impossible.

[k-oneputt]

Nothings impossible.

Camp arm.

[JCBills]

Yeah and most played in the SEC.
They play a little different type of ball then you see at Monmouth and Alfred,
you guys gotta get over this small school infatuation. Modrak and his gang of diots tried that for a decade and you've seen where that got us.

What small school infatuation?

Its called not having the blinders on. I can't believe your simplistic view as to why guys go where they go. It has to do with way more than just talent.

Grades.
Number of scholarships.
Priorities at the time.
Local media exposure.
National media attention.
College scouting depts.
Etc

It isn't like the draft where you just grab what you think are the best guys and the only questions are character concerns.

Not everyone that runs in the 4.3s has a great GPA.

[k-oneputt]

Yeah right.

They play D-3 for a reason.

[YardRat]

"DIII quarterbacks are people too!!!"