KICKER???

[Mr. Miyagi]

WTF??? When Kellen Moore was there???

[MikeInRoch]

We don't want Kellen Moore.

[THATHURMANATOR]

YEAH What about it?

No one else is picking Moore. He sucks.

[BillsOverDolphins]

More importantly, when Jones, Peterson, and Fortson were there

[THATHURMANATOR]

three more bums.

Although why did they take a kicker? Are they done with Lindell?

Is this kicker one that booms kickoffs?

[BillsOverDolphins]

YEAH What about it?

No one else is picking Moore. He sucks.
Jesus ****ing christ, are you related to Buddy? Can't figure out why you constantly throat his scrote

[ddaryl]

This guy had 36 touchbacks last year.

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and they didn't want to compete for him on UDFA LIST

[Slim]

three more bums.

Although why did they take a kicker? Are they done with Lindell?

Is this kicker one that booms kickoffs?

We just re-signed Lindell to an extension. Maybe we carry a K on our PS this year?

[Slim]

This guy had 36 touchbacks last year.

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That's pretty impressive.

[Ginger Vitis]

More importantly, when Jones, Peterson, and Fortson were there

Would have preferred any of those 3 to a kicker..Uggghh!!

[ddaryl]

Would have preferred any of those 3 to a kicker..Uggghh!!

There still UDFA's we may still sign them.

But here's a guy who can kick it through the end zone regularly

[YardRat]

I really dislike drafting kickers.

[ddaryl]

I really dislike drafting kickers.


the Bills obviously didn't want to compete for him on he open market.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Jesus ****ing christ, are you related to Buddy? Can't figure out why you constantly throat his scrote
No but it is my duty every year to point out to overreacting drama queens that not every pick is a bust.

These guys all might blow and be cut in 2 years. Who knows???

I hate hearing regular Joe's talking about arm length and 5 techniques.. It is lame.

[mikemac2001]

why r people crying this was actually smart

[THATHURMANATOR]

We just re-signed Lindell to an extension. Maybe we carry a K on our PS this year?
Maybe. Or specialist so there is never a return against us.

[Ginger Vitis]

I hate hearing regular Joe's talking about arm length and 5 techniques.. It is lame.


Measurables are apart of evaluating prospects.. hardly lame

[THATHURMANATOR]

Measurables are apart of evaluating prospects.. hardly lame
Sure not lame when experts are talking about it.

VERY LAME when message board posters are.

[Crisis]

people complaining about using a 7th round comp selection on a kicker

[Slim]

Buddy said he's a kickoff specialist. All I can say is he better never **** up.

[mikemac2001]

Buddy said he's a kickoff specialist. All I can say is he better never **** up.


no free points ...force 80 yd tds every time im ok with that

[BLeonard]

How quickly we forget the fact that we ended up putting 2 kickers on IR last season...

Hell, even as a kickoff specialist, this guy makes it a worthwhile pick with the 251st pick...

-Bill

[The Jokeman]

I really dislike drafting kickers.
Still soured over Gary Anderson huh?

[Slim]

no free points ...force 80 yd tds every time im ok with that

As am I.

[BLeonard]

no free points ...force 80 yd tds every time im ok with that

Taking into the account that they have given the defense a facelift, that's probably the thinking... Don't give up silly points on Special Teams.

-Bill

[YardRat]

Still soured over Gary Anderson huh?

Yes.

[trapezeus]

Team lost Lindell last year and had a disaster as their replacement. This seems like a prudent move.

[kishoph]

I love this pick, I'd rather have someone on the final 46 that's gonna see action in the game and have the team benefit from it. Teams are going to have to drive 80 yds. for a TD against the Bills. Who knows with the right coaching, this kid may turn into a good FG kicker, who'll be knocking them in from 50 yds. I much rather have this pick over a QB who's has potential to be a 3rd stringer in the NFL.

[jimbohastle51]

what Nix said in his post draft presser is true. "He is a kickoff guy. he he kicks it out of the end zone on kicks offs every time and forces the opposing team to start at the 20 he is worth that late 7th rounder". I know us fans hate it but the fact is that the NFL is working towards eliminating the kickoff. this is a way that we can keep players healthy and give our defense the best chance to succeed. I don't mind it at all. Alot of teams have done this in the past (had a kick off specialist).
Also if you look at the UDFA signing of Nick Sukay (i know its not offical yet) he easily would have been worth a 7th round pick so that makes it look even better to me.

[Meathead]

in his post draft presser its obvious they are seriously considering carrying a ko specialist


If you could start every time on the 20. The wear and tear on your cover guys is a lot less. We did. We pinned them in there. Every now and then if he pinned one in the middle they started on the 40 and that’s what you’d like to know that you could kick it in the end zone every time. That’s mostly what people did to us.

kinda surprising considering how precious a roster spot is especially on gameday. frankly id be surprised if they really kept two kickers, i suspect they are hoping moreso that he can impress them enough with fgs that he beats out lindell. its a longshot but in the meantime up until the final cutdown the week before the season they get to consider whether carrying two is worth it and doable

[Philagape]

Just in time before the NFL does away with kickoffs! :phew:

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

Jesus ****ing christ, are you related to Buddy? Can't figure out why you constantly throat his scrote
BOD the past few days you have really shown yourself to be a bit of an abrasive ass. are you just doing this because you feel the need to be a bit edgy with your online persona or are you like this in real life too?

[Skooby]

Our opponents average starting position has been pushed back at least 8 yards, maybe more:

Go to the 8:40 mark or so, watch the kickoffs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HxqDM93qo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

This dude is good, say it with me - touchback / touchback.

[BillsOverDolphins]

BOD the past few days you have really shown yourself to be a bit of an abrasive ass. are you just doing this because you feel the need to be a bit edgy with your online persona or are you like this in real life too?
I'm an ******* in real life too, but I work with a lot of stupid people.

I apologize for the meltdown over the weekend. I wanted my guy, we didn't draft him, I was (and still am) pissed.

Life goes on. Go Bills, regardless.

[Dozerdog]

Just our luck- we draft a potential pro bowl kickoff guy


Too bad the NFL is getting rid of both

[BertSquirtgum]

I hate dumb people.

[djjimkelly]

I really dislike drafting kickers.

at least we used a compenastory pick

not a 3rd rounder lol

[Buddo]

Looks like we hit a home run with our 7th rounder again this year.

We got a guy who will very likely make the roster, and be useful with it.

Rather than some scrub who won't see the light of day after a couple of weeks of TC.

Kickoff specialist, who also might end up winning us a couple of games, on longer FGs than Lindell can make.

This pick isn't wasted, at all.

[SaviorEdwards]

Great draft pick...lord knows lindell can never find the endzone

[methos4ever]

Getting him as the kickoff guy reduces the risk of Lindell being injured tracking a guy down like last year.

Also, the possibilities are endless for DeHaven re: two kickers for an onside kick.

[kishoph]

Our opponents average starting position has been pushed back at least 8 yards, maybe more:

Go to the 8:40 mark or so, watch the kickoffs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5HxqDM93qo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

This dude is good, say it with me - touchback / touchback.


At the 59 second mark, he nails the upright half way up, that's from the 30 yd. line, so you figure 70 yds. plus 10 yds. deep and at least another 20 ft. up in the air, I'd guess roughly that would amount to kicking the ball about 90 yds. That's pretty damn impressive.
The kids also not afraid to stick his helmet into a returners chest, watch the three tackles he makes starting at the 10:00 mark. 36 career tackles. I'm even excited about a drafted kicker, I can't wait for the season to start.

[kishoph]

There's a reason why he went undrafted. He's tiny for a QB, only 3 inches taller than Doug Flutie. Personally, I don't understand the fan fascination with him. He's never going to be Drew Brees. Just saying.


I heard this morning that Moore was picked up by Detroit. I also do not see why some people were so high on him, I can't see him doing anything moore than holding a clipboard in the NFL. Nix said he will be looking to pick up a UFA QB.


This will be a familiar sight.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v153/kishoph/20August2011_3c_BSU_Scrimmage_Kellen_Moore_Sidelines_Good.jpg

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

Getting him as the kickoff guy reduces the risk of Lindell being injured tracking a guy down like last year.

Also, the possibilities are endless for DeHaven re: two kickers for an onside kick.
Huh?

[ddaryl]

How many times did the opposing teams run the ball from a kickoff to the 25 - 35 yd line.

We risk way to many injuries to players and you have to have a certain personnel to effectively run kickoffs coverages.

Now we don't have to have specialized kickoff peronell, we won't have people running kickoffs past the 20 yd line to often. Saves players from injuries, and that also helps our depth at positions by not getting guys killed by not having dependable touch backs

[Yasgur's Farm]

All the positives were hit by you guys... Let me recap.

1) He can kick 100% out the back of the endzone.
2) One result will be that our opponents will have to drive 80 yards against a much improved D.
3) Another result will be far less injuries to our ST players... These are our depth guys and thus are essential in reducing fatigue in our starters.
4) A third result will be in keeping Lindell healthy. Regardless of what many say about him, he's very accurate and has a range up to 60 yards under the right conditions.
5) 2 kickers in onside kick situations could be an interesting advantage.
6) Potter could be trotted out for last second 60, 70 or even 75+ yard attempts... I believe he will eventually shatter the NFL record.
7) A 7th rounder who makes the roster is better than a 7th round camp fodder guy... Although, that means someone else doesn't make the final cut. Have roster sizes been increased this season?

[AndreReed83]

This was a brilliant move. Wasn't Lindell injured on a kickoff last year? Well, now that risk is gone, AND this kid is actually great at getting touchbacks. Protects one asset on the team while boosting another area.

As far as not getting a QB, I think they realize that if Fitzpatrick fails this year, they will likely be drafting high next season. There's your new QB.

[scartown]

Potter 44% touchbacks from the 30
Lindell 29% touchbacks from the 35

I'm sold

[methos4ever]

Huh?

Lindell got injured as the last man stopping a return (I think vs the Jets) and we paid for it rest of season.

I saw at least two teams last year do a double onside, where they had the punter fake going for the onside, then the kicker did it and vice versa.

Either way, that's helpful for ST and a good sign for team as a whole if they think they can afford two roster spots in reg season for kickers.

[The Jokeman]

Potter 44% touchbacks from the 30
Lindell 29% touchbacks from the 35

I'm sold
I can't recall but are NCAA tee's the same size as NFL?

[tampabay25690]

WHO CARES....
3rd last pick in the draft.
Moore isn't that good.
Yes played good in the WAC conference at Boise St but has no arm strength at all.

[YardRat]

All the positives were hit by you guys... Let me recap.

1) He can kick 100% out the back of the endzone.
2) One result will be that our opponents will have to drive 80 yards against a much improved D.
3) Another result will be far less injuries to our ST players... These are our depth guys and thus are essential in reducing fatigue in our starters.
4) A third result will be in keeping Lindell healthy. Regardless of what many say about him, he's very accurate and has a range up to 60 yards under the right conditions.
5) 2 kickers in onside kick situations could be an interesting advantage.
6) Potter could be trotted out for last second 60, 70 or even 75+ yard attempts... I believe he will eventually shatter the NFL record.
7) A 7th rounder who makes the roster is better than a 7th round camp fodder guy... Although, that means someone else doesn't make the final cut. Have roster sizes been increased this season?

No, but there is room for an extra kicker without compromising the rest of roster much at all...

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?p=3640892#post3640892

[BillsFever21]

There still UDFA's we may still sign them.

But here's a guy who can kick it through the end zone regularly
With the new rules just about every kicker and reach the endzone and get a touchback around 70% of the time. Before that then they were good to have if your FG kicker didn't have a strong leg on kickoffs.

It's probably a flyer on somebody they think has some potential and to see what he has to offer. They are probably looking to hedge their bet on Lindell too in case he comes back slow from his injury.

Everybody shoots down kickers but they you never realize how important a good kicker is until you have a horrible one that you can't count on. If you can have a great clutch kicker he can win a lot of games for you. A bad kicker can lose a lot of games for you.

At least we didn't draft a punter in the 3rd round like one of the teams did. Forgot which one offhand. It's only a flyer on a 7th round pick. It's not like it's a big deal. Outside of some exceptions to the rule most 7th round picks don't even see the field or make the team unless your team is that bad.