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  • Ed
    Dude
    • Sep 2002
    • 9247

    Trading Lynch + Evans =...

    So we ended up trading Lynch for a 4th in 2011 and a 5th in 2012, and Evans for a 4th in 2012. Now that the draft is over what do you think of the players we got? Do you like the trades?

    Lynch = OT Chris Hairston and LB Tank Carder

    Evans = CB Ron Brooks

    Obviously we can't fairly evaluate the trades until these guys play for a few years, but as of right now how do you feel?
    Last edited by Ed; 05-01-2012, 10:50 AM.
  • BillsOverDolphins
    All-Pro Zoner
    • Jun 2003
    • 2256

    #2
    Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

    Like you said, only time will tell. I didn't like the Evans trade at first (like most people), but I'm psyched to have Ron Brooks. It still sucks to see Lynch tearing it up in Seattle, though...not gonna lie. Hopefully Tank and Chris reach their potential.
    Oh no!...We suck again!

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    • Jan Reimers
      Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
      • May 2003
      • 17353

      #3
      Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

      Better than I thought I would. I was a big Evans' fan, but he seems to be on the downside of his career and Brooks has tons of potential.

      I'm not sure we did as well with Lynch, but his leaving gave Freddy a chance to shine, and CJ is coming on. Hairston and Carder are possible starters, so I think we did pretty well. Plus, we no longer have to put up with Marshawn's thuggery.
      Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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      • MitchMurrayDowntown
        Skoobasaurus-Rex
        • Oct 2011
        • 22284

        #4
        Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

        Addition by subtraction.

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        • YardRat
          Well, lookie here...
          • Dec 2004
          • 86273

          #5
          Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

          I'll take it.
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          • gr8slayer
            Registered User
            • Feb 2005
            • 20796

            #6
            Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

            I would have rather kept Lynch, I was sad to see him go.

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            • Beebe's Kid
              Registered User
              • Nov 2009
              • 3134

              #7
              Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

              I liked both guys, but I like most Bills. I didn't like seeing them go, and I thought we were fleeced on the deals at the time. Nix is as good of a GM as there is in the NFL. I think he made the right moves, and we might end up grateful for his tenure for a long time.

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              • Joe Fo Sho
                Making Spirits Bright
                • Mar 2006
                • 6194

                #8
                Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

                The Lynch trade was awful, I hated it. I think we wasted a 1st round pick on Spiller when we should've kept Lynch. We could've had Pierre Paul instead with our 1st round pick. The real question for that trade is this..Who would you rather have?

                Lynch + Pierre Paul (or other 1st rounder)

                or

                CJ Spiller, Chris Hairston and Tank Carder.
                Last edited by Joe Fo Sho; 04-30-2012, 07:48 PM.

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                • ublinkwescore
                  Sab and TD are insignificant
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 24178

                  #9
                  Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

                  ? How was it possible tohave both lynch and pierre-paul?
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                  • Bangarang
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1686

                    #10
                    Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

                    Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho
                    The Lynch trade was awful, I hated it. I think we wasted a 1st round pick on Spiller when we should've kept Lynch. We could've had Pierre Paul instead with our 1st round pick. The real question for that trade is this..Who would you rather have?

                    Lynch + Pierre Paul (or other 1st rounder)

                    or

                    CJ Spiller, Chris Hairston and Tank Carder.
                    JPP was considered a very raw prospect. We were also trying to transition to a 3-4 defense at the time. The whole we could have had JPP only sounds good because of what he has become. Much like any other player that made it in the league that was taken after our pick.

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                    • Joe Fo Sho
                      Making Spirits Bright
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 6194

                      #11
                      Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

                      Originally posted by Bangarang
                      JPP was considered a very raw prospect. We were also trying to transition to a 3-4 defense at the time. The whole we could have had JPP only sounds good because of what he has become. Much like any other player that made it in the league that was taken after our pick.
                      Right, I just used that as an example. In my mind, it's still a question of whether I'd be happier with Lynch and a 1st round pick, or Spiller and a 4th and 5th round pick. I'd take Lynch.

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                      • Joe Fo Sho
                        Making Spirits Bright
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 6194

                        #12
                        Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

                        Originally posted by ublinkwescore
                        ? How was it possible tohave both lynch and pierre-paul?
                        I'm assuming the writing was on the wall when we drafted Spiller. Nix knew he was going to trade Lynch.

                        So instead of Spiller, I think we should've kept Lynch and used our 1st rounder on a position of need, whether it be Pierre Paul or otherwise.

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                        • The Jokeman
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 9995

                          #13
                          Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

                          Originally posted by ublinkwescore
                          ? How was it possible tohave both lynch and pierre-paul?
                          Easy instead of drafting Spiller we draft Pierre-Paul and because we don't have Spiller we keep Lynch.

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                          • NOT THE DUDE...
                            Hall of Fame Zoner
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 8826

                            #14
                            Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

                            Originally posted by The Jokeman
                            Easy instead of drafting Spiller we draft Pierre-Paul and because we don't have Spiller we keep Lynch.

                            thats totally unrealistic being that jpp was a total project who had little game tape and little produciton. he was a combine star who flashed... ie fear of another maybin...

                            with our recent history, nix had to make sure the pick counted, so he took a cant miss prospect in spiller...

                            i cant blame him..

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                            • Extremebillsfan247
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 3142

                              #15
                              Re: Trading Lynch + Evans =...

                              Originally posted by Ed
                              So we ended up trading Lynch for a 4th in 2010 and a 5th in 2011, and Evans for a 4th in 2011. Now that the draft is over what do you think of the players we got? Do you like the trades?

                              Lynch = OT Chris Hairston and LB Tank Carder

                              Evans = CB Ron Brooks

                              Obviously we can't fairly evaluate the trades until these guys play for a few years, but as of right now how do you feel?
                              This line says it all "Obviously we can't fairly evaluate the trades until these guys play for a few years".

                              Historically 4th and 5th rounders don't do well on this team. Only a small handful even make the team. In 2003 there was Terrence McGee, 111th pick overall, who remains 1 of only 2 Bills from that entire draft class still on the team. The other is Kelsay who went 46th overall in the 2nd. Kyle Williams 5th rounder 134th pick overall, is the last remaining player of that Bills draft class. Those are the exceptions. Reggie Corner, drafted in the 4th, 114th overall in 2008, might not make the Bills roster in 2012. In 2010 the Bills drafted Marcus Easley the 107th pick overall is on his last legs here. If he doesn't produce this year, he is done as a Bill just 2 seasons after being drafted.

                              The list of Bills players who were drafted in the 4th and 5th rounds since 2003 that are no longer a part of the team are as follows.

                              Sam Aiken
                              Ben Sobieski
                              Tim Euhus
                              Duke Preston
                              Eric King
                              Ko Simpson
                              Brad Butler
                              Dwayne Wright
                              Derek Fine
                              Alvin Bowen
                              Shawn Nelson
                              Nic Harris
                              Ed Wang

                              If I missed anybody feel free to add to the list.


                              Anyway, I thought those stats were interesting, so I dropped them here to add a little bit of realism to the quote for those who may doubt it's legitimacy.
                              Last edited by Extremebillsfan247; 05-01-2012, 05:43 AM.

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