Training camp battles

[YardRat]

QB-Thigpen, Corp and maybe Tanney or another for #2 QB.

RB-Choice and White for RB#3

FB-none at this point

WR-Jones, Hagan, Clowney, Aiken, Easley, Martin, Roosevelt for 2 spots, 3 tops.

TE-Caussin, Smith, Brock, Onobun for 1 spot, 2 tops.

OT, G, and Center - 7 of 9 spots are probably a given (3 OT, 3 G, 1 C) That leaves Sanders, Madsen, Young, Brown, Jasper, Williams, Vermiglio and Asper to battle it out for only 2 spots.

DE-Johnson, Moore, Batten, Eddins and Dotson for 1 spot.

DT-Heard, Carrington, Troup, Edwards, Gilbert, Ross for 2 spots.

LBer-Bradham, Carder, Moats, White, Williams, McKillop for 3 spots.

CB-McGee, Rogers, McKelvin, Miller, Hill for 3 spots.

SAF-Howell, Wilde, Nesby, Sukay for maybe 1 spot.

P-Moorman vs Powell for 1 spot.

Pretty sure there won't be any question about PK and LS, except whether or not to keep a KO specialist alongside Lindell.

[buffalobillsfan95]

There is no competition for #2 back, it's Jackson, spiller and choice/ white

[mayotm]

As bad as Thigpen was last year, I would be shocked if either of the UDFA QB's come anywhere close to being the #2 QB. At best, those two are battling for #3. More likely that they are battling for a spot on the PS. I suppose it's possible the Bills have stumbled upon a diamond in the rough, but not likely.

[YardRat]

There is no competition for #2 back, it's Jackson, spiller and choice/ white

Ooops. Thanks, my bad.

[Prov401]

Everybody seems to forgert we have Brad Smith.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

QB-Thigpen, Corp and maybe Tanney or another for #2 QB.

RB-Choice and White for RB#3

FB-none at this point

WR-Jones, Hagan, Clowney, Aiken, Easley, Martin, Roosevelt for 2 spots, 3 tops. jones and easley are locks if they are healthy..

TE-Caussin, Smith, Brock, Onobun for 1 spot, 2 tops.

OT, G, and Center - 7 of 9 spots are probably a given (3 OT, 3 G, 1 C) That leaves Sanders, Madsen, Young, Brown, Jasper, Williams, Vermiglio and Asper to battle it out for only 2 spots.

DE-Johnson, Moore, Batten, Eddins and Dotson for 1 spot.- i actually think moats wins this 5ths spot at de...

DT-Heard, Carrington, Troup, Edwards, Gilbert, Ross for 2 spots. imo, heard, carrington and troup are locks

LBer-Bradham, Carder, Moats, White, Williams, McKillop for 3 spots.

CB-McGee, Rogers, McKelvin, Miller, Hill for 3 spots. mcgee is done...

SAF-Howell, Wilde, Nesby, Sukay for maybe 1 spot.

P-Moorman vs Powell for 1 spot.

Pretty sure there won't be any question about PK and LS, except whether or not to keep a KO specialist alongside Lindell.

[Dr. Lecter]

How is Easley a lock when he has as many NFL receptions as I do?

And Moats is listed as an OLB, not a DE.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

How is Easley a lock when he has as many NFL receptions as I do?

And Moats is listed as an OLB, not a DE.

because easley was a lock last year and was great in tc. i said if hes healthy...

im saying moats will play both...

[Oaf]

Give me Aiken, Jones, and Clowney from the top there.

[YardRat]

Everybody seems to forgert we have Brad Smith.

Smith is pretty much guaranteed a roster spot as #3 QB and the sixth/seventh WR depending on how many 'full-timers' they keep.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

Smith is costing a lot of money for doing jack squat

[Meathead]

realistically theres currently zero competition for the qb2 spot. the only qb related battle is corp and tanney battling themselves to force chan to move smith off the qb3 depth chart

[DGreg]

Great battles. Love it.

[DGreg]

Can't wait for the season

[NOT THE DUDE...]

Smith is costing a lot of money for doing jack squat

well, if they actually used him during short yardage he would be worth a ton more...

he has great value to a roster though.

emergency qb, 4th rb, wildcat, slot wr, outside wr, returner, gunner, probably an emergency safety too.

could probably play as a small te also

[SaviorEdwards]

I'd love to see Spiller progress and flat out take the job from Freddy

[NOT THE DUDE...]

I'd love to see Spiller progress and flat out take the job from Freddy

i would to man!

if he is solid with his blitz pickup and gets a little more patient, LOOK OUT!

he really does remind me of gale sayers...

he has michael vick type speed and quickness, back when vick was in his early 20s

[YardRat]

Smith is costing a lot of money for doing jack squat

I disagree, a little bit. He was very valuable early in the season when they were actually using him in the wildcat to run the ball on third and short. Those first downs, although not really exciting or pretty, were very effective as they kept drives alive.

I know there are several other factors involved, especially injuries, but the team was 5-2 when Smith ran the ball 19 times over that stretch, and he only carried 1 more time over the last 9 games of the season.

As for Spiller, the guy still has yet to show any real 'homerun, score from anywhere on the field at any time' ability that was promised when we drafted him.

[YardRat]

realistically theres currently zero competition for the qb2 spot. the only qb related battle is corp and tanney battling themselves to force chan to move smith off the qb3 depth chart

I'm hoping Tanney signs up and beats out Thigpen for #2.

[Meathead]

yeah well me too but the odds of that happening are less than one pcent. chuddy hasnt worked their ass off just to go into what looks like paydirt time with an undrafted rookie as their only insurance on the season

pigpen is painfully mediocre but around game nine mediocre would look awsome compared to bad if forced into action. its either the pen or some other vet pickup at number two. the best the rookies can hope for is qb3. for reasons previously given there will be no ps qb for more than a few weeks max

[Figster]

As bad as Thigpen was last year, I would be shocked if either of the UDFA QB's come anywhere close to being the #2 QB. At best, those two are battling for #3. More likely that they are battling for a spot on the PS. I suppose it's possible the Bills have stumbled upon a diamond in the rough, but not likely.


I would love to see one of them perform well enough to step into the backup role, but I agree, they are battling for #3

[YardRat]

I have no problem with a UDFA QB at #2 if, during camp, he earns the spot. There really might not be that much difference between an UDFA and a QB that was taken in the later rounds, and TJ Yates worked out OK for Houston last season, so it's not like it's impossible.

[bigbub2352]

reinhart and urbik should be a nice battle for RG

also battle for WR spots...i think Hagan has a good shot a sticking

plus i think we will be addressing QB and TE thru waiver wire before season starts

[Meathead]

an undrafted rookie could look like an unholy amalgamation of marino/kelly/unitas/elway/jesus of nazareth in preseason and still not win the qb2 job this season

[Oaf]

I'd love to see Spiller progress and flat out take the job from Freddy
Fred Jackson was the best RB in football during the 10 weeks he played. You're asking a lot.

[ddaryl]

I'm hoping Tanney signs up and beats out Thigpen for #2.
I'm holding my breathe, but if he can put that accuracy and arm strength to use on the pro field and put up a decent showing in per-season that would be exciting.

It would be great having a young possible future starter on the roster


an undrafted rookie could look like an unholy amalgamation of marino/kelly/unitas/elway/jesus of nazareth in preseason and still not win the qb2 job this season

I disagree.. if any QB looked that good then I doubt they wouldn't be at least a #2



I have no problem with a UDFA QB at #2 if, during camp, he earns the spot. There really might not be that much difference between an UDFA and a QB that was taken in the later rounds, and TJ Yates worked out OK for Houston last season, so it's not like it's impossible.


comes down to coaching, film room and patience.

[Oaf]

If we do have a UDFA at #2.. Fitz better stay on the field thru a lot more than bruised ribs.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

I disagree, a little bit. He was very valuable early in the season when they were actually using him in the wildcat to run the ball on third and short. Those first downs, although not really exciting or pretty, were very effective as they kept drives alive.

I know there are several other factors involved, especially injuries, but the team was 5-2 when Smith ran the ball 19 times over that stretch, and he only carried 1 more time over the last 9 games of the season.

As for Spiller, the guy still has yet to show any real 'homerun, score from anywhere on the field at any time' ability that was promised when we drafted him.

didnt spiller break a few long runs last year? denver game? titans game? i think he broke a few against oakland over 20 yds...

in fact spiller put up great numbers too when he played.

[Dr. Lecter]

A home run is not a run over 20 yards. It is much more than that.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

A home run is not a run over 20 yards. It is much more than that.

all nfl experts consider anything over 20 yards, " big plays, or explosion plays"...

and like i said, didnt spiller break 2 long runs vs the broncos and titans? i think there were a few others over or close to 30 yards...

[YardRat]

all nfl experts consider anything over 20 yards, " big plays, or explosion plays"...

and like i said, didnt spiller break 2 long runs vs the broncos and titans? i think there were a few others over or close to 30 yards...

Spiller has had 319 total touches in two seasons and he has exactly ONE play over 45 yards, a 95 KO return. ZERO over 41 from the line of scrimmage, out of 244 touches. He's not a home threat and shouldn't be considered one until he actually does it. Hell, Freddie had 209 touches last season, and at least FIVE plays 43 yards or longer.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

Spiller has had 319 total touches in two seasons and he has exactly ONE play over 45 yards, a 95 KO return. ZERO over 41 from the line of scrimmage, out of 244 touches. He's not a home threat and shouldn't be considered one until he actually does it. Hell, Freddie had 209 touches last season, and at least FIVE plays 43 yards or longer.

thats not 20 yd plays.. that is the normal measure of explosion plays...

[mightysimi]

Spiller has had 319 total touches in two seasons and he has exactly ONE play over 45 yards, a 95 KO return. ZERO over 41 from the line of scrimmage, out of 244 touches. He's not a home threat and shouldn't be considered one until he actually does it. Hell, Freddie had 209 touches last season, and at least FIVE plays 43 yards or longer.

+ an 80 td against the Champs

[YardRat]

thats not 20 yd plays.. that is the normal measure of explosion plays...

I don't really care what 'NFL experts' consider 'explosion plays'...Spiller was billed as a threat to score from anywhere on the field, every time he touched the ball, and he is far from it. In all honesty, I've never even heard the 'explosion play definition' anyway, so I don't know who these 'experts' are.

[acehole]

I don't really care what 'NFL experts' consider 'explosion plays'...Spiller was billed as a threat to score from anywhere on the field, every time he touched the ball, and he is far from it. In all honesty, I've never even heard the 'explosion play definition' anyway, so I don't know who these 'experts' are.


My problem with spiller is not this.

He is not an every down back.

I would be very suprised if

we didnt get another

next year or

sooner.

[stuckincincy]

I don't really care what 'NFL experts' consider 'explosion plays'...Spiller was billed as a threat to score from anywhere on the field, every time he touched the ball, and he is far from it. In all honesty, I've never even heard the 'explosion play definition' anyway, so I don't know who these 'experts' are.

Sounds like current "buzz words."

Kinda like ones still in varying degrees of use...he runs downhill, in space, and gets to the 2nd level etc.

:kid:

[PTI]

Chan Gailey versus running the ball.