Vegas line - Bills O/U 6.5 wins

[k-oneputt]

I thought they would be more then that. But 6.5 wins is the early line out. I was thinking 8.5.

[PTI]

I thought they would be more then that. But 6.5 wins is the early line out. I was thinking 8.5.

That will go up. They are an early favorite as far as point spreads go in 9 of the 15 I think it was, no spreads in week 17. Lots of 1 to 3 point spreads either way. I think they win 7 if Fitz is the QB the whole season.

[SquishDaFish]

That will go up. They are an early favorite as far as point spreads go in 9 of the 15 I think it was, no spreads in week 17. Lots of 1 to 3 point spreads either way. I think they win 7 if Fitz is the QB the whole season.
:banghead:

[ServoBillieves]

This is all Fitzys fault.

OH wait PTI already posted in this thread and made it about 1 of the 53 players on the roster. MY BAD!

[DrGraves]

Sadly that is probably accurate because we are only one or two injuries away from having what happened last year repeat itself. We don't have any depth and we can never stay healthy.

[PTI]

This is all Fitzys fault.

OH wait PTI already posted in this thread and made it about 1 of the 53 players on the roster. MY BAD!

What are you talking about, you guys are freaking clueless. I said I would go over the 6.5.

[ServoBillieves]

What are you talking about, you guys are freaking clueless. I said I would go over the 6.5.

So Fitz can lead us to victory?

[stuckincincy]

I thought they would be more then that. But 6.5 wins is the early line out. I was thinking 8.5.

What's the opening line for other clubs? I can't see anything but a coin flip for most teams now.

[SquishDaFish]

That will go up. They are an early favorite as far as point spreads go in 9 of the 15 I think it was, no spreads in week 17. Lots of 1 to 3 point spreads either way. I think they win 7 if Fitz is the QB the whole season.

Yea thats not taking a shot at Fitz?!?! NO! of course not.

Now you could of just said Hey guys I THINK the Bills will win 7. Thats it end it there. BUT NO its IF Fitz is the QB then its 7

Your a ****ing broken record

[PTI]

So Fitz can lead us to victory?

What is your definition of victory? Fitz most certainly can beat the Browns.

[Skooby]

Another hijacked thread, LOL.

[PTI]

Another hijacked thread, LOL.

You guys again made it about Fitz. People on this board seem to think if Fitzpatrick hets hurt the season is over. How in the world does my post not make sense to people who cry little babies like you and your sad crew that pick bits and pieces of a post to quote about.

If Fitz plays the whole season........I think they can win over 6.5 (and does not get hurt for you crybaby weenies)

If Fitz does not play the whole season, I think they can win over 6.5 games.

Wow, you guys make it about Fitz.

[ddaryl]

Sadly that is probably accurate because we are only one or two injuries away from having what happened last year repeat itself. We don't have any depth and we can never stay healthy.

I thought we took care of a lot of that this offseason.

[Mr. Miyagi]

I thought they would be more then that. But 6.5 wins is the early line out. I was thinking 8.5.
1. What are the odds?
2. Who's going to Vegas soon?
3. Can you put down $100 over for me?

Thanks.

[Joe Fo Sho]

That will go up. They are an early favorite as far as point spreads go in 9 of the 15 I think it was, no spreads in week 17. Lots of 1 to 3 point spreads either way. I think they win 7 if Fitz is the QB the whole season.

See... YOU made it about Fitz. You probably forgot about this post. That's OK, I'll just remind you.

[Skooby]

You guys again made it about Fitz. People on this board seem to think if Fitzpatrick hets hurt the season is over. How in the world does my post not make sense to people who cry little babies like you and your sad crew that pick bits and pieces of a post to quote about.

If Fitz plays the whole season........I think they can win over 6.5 (and does not get hurt for you crybaby weenies)

If Fitz does not play the whole season, I think they can win over 6.5 games.

Wow, you guys make it about Fitz.

The 2nd post is you talking about 7 wins with Fitz at QB, it's all you Brother.

[SquishDaFish]

See... YOU made it about Fitz. You probably forgot about this post. That's OK, I'll just remind you.

He obviously ignores my posts because I pointed that out to him long ago LOL

[Meathead]

my gawd. i havent bet on sports in like twenty years but if i wasnt broke and in vegas i would put some serious money on the over. seven wins seems about eighty pcent likely

[PTI]

He obviously ignores my posts because I pointed that out to him long ago LOL

You mean with your reponses that have non words in them? Man, you and the others are a sad, sad bunch.

I did say they would win 7 if Fitz was the QB the whole season. The over/under is 6.5. That was my statement. I picked over.

I thread is about 6.5 wins. I stated if Fitz is QB the whole season I expect over.

You guys need a life.

[NOT THE DUDE...]

the team has playoff caliber talent.

once you get in the playoffs, as long as you can score some pts/rush the passer, you got a real shot...

[k-oneputt]

1. What are the odds?
2. Who's going to Vegas soon?
3. Can you put down $100 over for me?

Thanks.

1. -120 over........-110 under
2. I don't know who's going to Vegas soon. These lines are supposed to be up for Memorial Day weekend.
3. No. I will not put a $100 on the over for you.

[SquishDaFish]

Seeing PTI is impaired Ill copy and paste what I posted here. I think this looks like it has words in it. I dont know.....

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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by PTI
That will go up. They are an early favorite as far as point spreads go in 9 of the 15 I think it was, no spreads in week 17. Lots of 1 to 3 point spreads either way. I think they win 7 if Fitz is the QB the whole season.
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Yea thats not taking a shot at Fitz?!?! NO! of course not.

Now you could of just said Hey guys I THINK the Bills will win 7. Thats it end it there. BUT NO its IF Fitz is the QB then its 7

Your a ****ing broken record

[PTI]

Seeing PTI is impaired Ill copy and paste what I posted here. I think this looks like it has words in it. I dont know.....

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<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="100%"> <TBODY><TR> <TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset" class=alt2> Originally Posted by PTI
That will go up. They are an early favorite as far as point spreads go in 9 of the 15 I think it was, no spreads in week 17. Lots of 1 to 3 point spreads either way. I think they win 7 if Fitz is the QB the whole season.

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Yea thats not taking a shot at Fitz?!?! NO! of course not.

Now you could of just said Hey guys I THINK the Bills will win 7. Thats it end it there. BUT NO its IF Fitz is the QB then its 7

Your a ****ing broken record

I HAVE ALREADY EXPLAINED!!!!!!!! Many people here also think Fitz is a savior, and that the Bills have no chance to win at all if Fitz gets hurt. Do you not know how to read, do you not understand english? You are the same in every thread, you only interpret what someone posts in the way you want to and refuse all else. The post was about 6.5 wins, I talked about point spreads and the QB. I also said if Fitz plays the whole season they will go over that amount.

[Skooby]

It's a non-stop targeted attack to get a point across, pretty plain & simple.


Seeing PTI is impaired Ill copy and paste what I posted here. I think this looks like it has words in it. I dont know.....

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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by PTI
That will go up. They are an early favorite as far as point spreads go in 9 of the 15 I think it was, no spreads in week 17. Lots of 1 to 3 point spreads either way. I think they win 7 if Fitz is the QB the whole season.
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Yea thats not taking a shot at Fitz?!?! NO! of course not.

Now you could of just said Hey guys I THINK the Bills will win 7. Thats it end it there. BUT NO its IF Fitz is the QB then its 7

Your a ****ing broken record

[Skooby]

I HAVE ALREADY EXPLAINED!!!!!!!! Many people here also think Fitz is a savior, and that the Bills have no chance to win at all if Fitz gets hurt. Do you not know how to read, do you not understand english? You are the same in every thread, you only interpret what someone posts in the way you want to and refuse all else. The post was about 6.5 wins, I talked about point spreads and the QB. I also said if Fitz plays the whole season they will go over that amount.

How many wins with Vince Young or Thigpen?

[PTI]

How many wins with Vince Young or Thigpen?

I think the Bills get 7 wins with whoever plays QB. That is what this thread is about, are you trying hijack it or something, Mr. Person accusing people of hijacking? Wow, you people accusing me of Fitz crap are always the actual hijackers, responding to me and asking me questions that I am glad to enlighten you on.

[Goobylal]

I've got to get to Vegas and lay down $10000 on this one.

[Joe Fo Sho]

I HAVE ALREADY EXPLAINED!!!!!!!! Many people here also think Fitz is a savior, and that the Bills have no chance to win at all if Fitz gets hurt. Do you not know how to read, do you not understand english? You are the same in every thread, you only interpret what someone posts in the way you want to and refuse all else. The post was about 6.5 wins, I talked about point spreads and the QB. I also said if Fitz plays the whole season they will go over that amount.

Please, for the love of corn, explain to me who thinks Fitz is the savior.

[Skooby]

I think the Bills get 7 wins with whoever plays QB. That is what this thread is about, are you trying hijack it or something, Mr. Person accusing people of hijacking? Wow, you people accusing me of Fitz crap are always the actual hijackers, responding to me and asking me questions that I am glad to enlighten you on.

You were pretty specific with which QB gets us 7 wins if he plays the whole season , why not generalize if that's what you meant or the case in your opinion ??

[SABURZFAN]

I also said if Fitz plays the whole season they will go over that amount.


screw these Fitz Lickers.....


what if they DON'T win 7 games with Fitz the whole season?


:movie:

[TigerJ]

I don't gamble, but if I did, I'd take that bet in a heartbeat.

[better days]

screw these Fitz Lickers.....


what if they DON'T win 7 games with Fitz the whole season?


:movie:

Then the Bills will have a new QB next season.

[Meathead]

if youve got 10g to put down on this i say gofor it

of course thats easy for me to say since im broke ass and wont be putting down a dime ...

but i dont think ive ever been more sure of a bet in over twenty years and if i had any money i would put down a sizeable amount. which makes it just about certain if i did bet the team would tank something fierce lol

[Skooby]

I wouldn't bet $.10 until after training camp, betting now is homerism.

[YardRat]

I'm hoping for double digits in the W column this season.

[Meathead]

I wouldn't bet $.10 until after training camp, betting now is homerism.
the line is bound to be at least two games higher by then, making it much much less attractive

with all the changes and massively improved depth i think its close to a lock they exceed last seasons win total by .5 games. thats point five games as in half a game

i dont see this number staying put for long at all

[Goobylal]

I've got to get to Vegas and lay down $10000 on this one.
Thinking about this more, the Bills go 6-10 last year, add a bunch of talent over the off-season, and have the 3rd easiest schedule. But Vegas has them winning 0.5 games more? Is there any way to place a bet on them without going to Vegas?

[k-oneputt]

5dimes.com

[k-oneputt]

Dolphins 7.5 wins
Jets 8.5
Pats 12

[ublinkwescore]

1. What are the odds?
2. Who's going to Vegas soon?
3. Can you put down $100 over for me?

Thanks.

No injun casinos where u live? They usually offer sports betting.

[Beebe's Kid]

You guys do know that there are ways to bet sports on the Interweb, right? You can even get on them from your computer now. All you need is a free month of AOL CD, and to plug your phone line into your computer, wait for the funny noise and put down the kids' college savings.

Don't thank me...thank Al Gore.*

Might as well just pick them to win it all...just think of all that money. Personally I am too upset about Tanny to do anything right now. I mean, did you see the YouTube video? He was a real prospect! All we have now is three guys who have actually played in the league and no D3 QB...just when you thought Buddy was on point. Chan probably didn't like him, because he likes black QBs, because he had nothing better than Kordell in Pittsburgh. Or maybe Tanny threw to the TE in the tryout...Chan hates TEs too. Realistically, though it was a money move. This is a business and Ralph is cheap.

*actually thank big government, because it was our tax dollars that funded the Interweb.

[jamze132]

This line is obviously going to go up as the season gets closer. if you bet now, are you locked in for the 6.5 O/U? if so, now is the time to place your bets before it gets evened out around 8 once camp starts.

[Extremebillsfan247]

I'm no gambler, but 6.5 seems fair at this point. My concern is with the receiving core. No defense in the league is going to respect it enough to not cheat up on the line. They are still going to force the Bills to beat them deep.

[ddaryl]

I'm no gambler, but 6.5 seems fair at this point. My concern is with the receiving core. No defense in the league is going to respect it enough to not cheat up on the line. They are still going to force the Bills to beat them deep.
opposing D's did that last year and as a team we still piled put up 23.5 pts a game.

improved D = better field position and the O getting the ball back more often.


I'd take the 6.5 games on the over for the Bills then double down on the under for Miami at 7.5


Anyone have recommended online betting site that has these odds... ?

[better days]

I'm no gambler, but 6.5 seems fair at this point. My concern is with the receiving core. No defense in the league is going to respect it enough to not cheat up on the line. They are still going to force the Bills to beat them deep.

Well, what receiver did the Bills have last year to prevent that from happening?

This Bills team is MUCH improved from last year & the schedule appears to be easier than last year.

I bet the over, I think the Bills win 9 games minimum.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Please, for the love of corn, explain to me who thinks Fitz is the savior.

AHEM... PTI you still haven't answered me.

[Joe Fo Sho]

AHEM... PTI you still haven't answered me.

Annnnndddd, we'll just bump this up to the top.

[PTI]

AHEM... PTI you still haven't answered me.

I won't be like other people and say things without quotes about what they think people say. I get misrepsented all the time. THere are many people out here that firmly believe that without Fitzpatrick there is a chance this team has 0 wins the last 2 seasons. I believe if you think the Bills would won less games with another QB I think peolle give Fitzpatrick way too much credit. 6 games is not that hard to attain. All but 7 teams won that much and there are many teams with below average QBs that won more. To people who believe the Bills had no chance to win 6 games without Fitz, I believe those people believe Fitz is a savior even of a person believes he is serviceable and good enough QB for right now.

I am so happy you are holding out and waiting for my answer.

Love corn, it is so versatile.

[Joe Fo Sho]

I won't be like other people and say things without quotes about what they think people say. I get misrepsented all the time. THere are many people out here that firmly believe that without Fitzpatrick there is a chance this team has 0 wins the last 2 seasons. I believe if you think the Bills would won less games with another QB I think peolle give Fitzpatrick way too much credit. 6 games is not that hard to attain. All but 7 teams won that much and there are many teams with below average QBs that won more. To people who believe the Bills had no chance to win 6 games without Fitz, I believe those people believe Fitz is a savior even of a person believes he is serviceable and good enough QB for right now.

I am so happy you are holding out and waiting for my answer.

Love corn, it is so versatile.

You still didn't answer my question...

Now it just seems like you're putting words into other peoples' mouths, and I know you've complained that other people have done that to you.

Just because people disagree with you about how bad Fitzpatrick is doesn't mean that they are automatically on the other side of the spectrum and love everything about him.

There is a middle ground here, it's actually quite big, and I would say that 85% of the posters here fall into it. With you being as far toward the hatred end as possible, and...well no one I can think of on the 'savior' side.

[Albany,n.y.]

If the Bills are 3-6 after 9 games, I'd still take this bet because they're going to win 6 straight games from 11/15-12/23. I'd even take it if they were 1-8.

[PTI]

Jo you asked me who thinks Fitz is the savior? I do not know how your question is not answered, I sadi without naming names, it is my perception that people overrate Fitz, saying savior is an exxageration, but this team could have win 6 games with just about anyone at QB last year is my opinion. You can keep saying that I did not answer but that is the my answer.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Jo you asked me who thinks Fitz is the savior? I do not know how your question is not answered, I sadi without naming names, it is my perception that people overrate Fitz, saying savior is an exxageration, but this team could have win 6 games with just about anyone at QB last year is my opinion. You can keep saying that I did not answer but that is the my answer.

So no one thinks Fitz is the savior of this team?

[better days]

So no one thinks Fitz is the savior of this team?

EXACTLY.

[Joe Fo Sho]

EXACTLY.

Yeah, that's kind of what I thought...but the way PTI is talking, you'd think this entire board thinks Fitz is the next coming of Joe Montana.

[Goobylal]

The offense was averaging over 27 PPG in the first 7 games, with Fitz, without a true #2 WR, and with a rookie LT for more than 2 of the games and a 3rd string LT for one of them. Then Fitz injured his ribs and injuries started to mount on offense.

[Extremebillsfan247]

Well, what receiver did the Bills have last year to prevent that from happening?

This Bills team is MUCH improved from last year & the schedule appears to be easier than last year.

I bet the over, I think the Bills win 9 games minimum.

As an overall team, yes they improved. But the receiving core hasn't, or at least not enough. A lot of teams improved overall. Every schedule looks favorable in the eyes of most fans this time of year. But just like Vegas, fans perspectives will change once the season is officially underway, for better, or worse. It happens every year like clockwork.

Judging by how the Bills fared in the 2nd half of last season, 6.5 O/U at this time is fair because despite getting Mario Williams, Mark Anderson, and all the other additions, they still have to prove it on the field. We still don't know which Bills team we have, the one that started the 2011 season hot, or the one that ended it looking very pedestrian like the team from 2010 did. JMO

[psubills62]

Dolphins 7.5 wins
Jets 8.5
Pats 12
I wouldn't touch the Pats or Jets, personally. I'd have to say over for Bills and under for Dolphins.

[HAMMER]

Keep in mind that the line is set based on what the oddsmakers feel will result in even money on both sides. It does not always reflect reality or what they feel will happen.

[Mark Miller]

What betting sites do you guys recommend?

[SquishDaFish]

I won't be like other people and say things without quotes about what they think people say. I get misrepsented all the time. THere are many people out here that firmly believe that without Fitzpatrick there is a chance this team has 0 wins the last 2 seasons. I believe if you think the Bills would won less games with another QB I think peolle give Fitzpatrick way too much credit. 6 games is not that hard to attain. All but 7 teams won that much and there are many teams with below average QBs that won more. To people who believe the Bills had no chance to win 6 games without Fitz, I believe those people believe Fitz is a savior even of a person believes he is serviceable and good enough QB for right now.

I am so happy you are holding out and waiting for my answer.

Love corn, it is so versatile.

Are you drunk???

[SquishDaFish]

And PTI NOONE on this board thinks Fitzy is the SAVIOR or an MVP QB. We just know that hes not as bad as you try to make him out to be. And he is better than every QB we had since Bledsoe/Flutie IMO.

Wins and Losses are a TEAM STAT!! Not a QB STAT. Games are WON and LOST as a TEAM!

[k-oneputt]

*UPDATE*

Cantor Gaming in Vegas releases it's win totals today to their hotels.

Buffalo Bills = 7 wins over -110
7 wins under -120

$3,000 limit until July.

Get to Vegas and hit this. If Fitz stays healthy I really think it will go over and seven is a push.

[PTI]

*UPDATE*

Cantor Gaming in Vegas releases it's win totals today to their hotels.

Buffalo Bills = 7 wins over -110
7 wins under -120

$3,000 limit until July.

Get to Vegas and hit this. If Fitz stays healthy I really think it will go over and seven is a push.

Fitz was healthy in 2010 and they won 4 games. Like I said, if Fitz stays healthy, 7 wins sounds about right.

[k-oneputt]

Fitz was healthy in 2010 and they won 4 games. Like I said, if Fitz stays healthy, 7 wins sounds about right.


That was 2010. We are talking about 2012.

There have been a few changes you might not know about.

[PTI]

That was 2010. We are talking about 2012.

There have been a few changes you might not know about.

Yep some changes, and some things remain exactly the same too.

[SquishDaFish]

Yep some changes, and some things remain exactly the same too.

Your un FN Real bro. Get over yourself. This WHOLE TEAM has gotten stronger. Maybe not at QB like you hope but we got better EVERYWHERE which will help make him better.

[ddaryl]

:popcorn:

[PTI]

Your un FN Real bro. Get over yourself. This WHOLE TEAM has gotten stronger. Maybe not at QB like you hope but we got better EVERYWHERE which will help make him better.

Bills have got stronger, but no other team in the NFL can say that.........or can they?

[better days]

Bills have got stronger, but no other team in the NFL can say that.........or can they?

Name another team that has made the same improvement that the Bills have on paper between last year & this year.

And if you are going to name the Broncos, I don't know that Manning will get them into the playoffs let alone win the first game like Tebow did.

[justasportsfan]

And PTI NOONE on this board thinks Fitzy is the SAVIOR or an MVP QB.

If you don't hate Fitz and don't blast him in every thread even though no one is talking about Fitz, you're a Fitz fan.

[PTI]

If you don't hate Fitz and don't blast him in every thread even though no one is talking about Fitz, you're a Fitz fan.

Where did I just blast Fitz now? All I stated was the Bills won 4 games in 2010 with Fitz not hurt and I expect them to get to 7 wins.

[PTI]

Name another team that has made the same improvement that the Bills have on paper between last year & this year.

And if you are going to name the Broncos, I don't know that Manning will get them into the playoffs let alone win the first game like Tebow did.

I would say the Patriots are already in a great spot, and they have added a lot of talent on defense. Bengals look like thye were improved. Redskins and Cowboys look imporved too. Of bad teams in the top 10, Tampa Bay looks like they have a lot of improvements.

Bills are most certainly up there, but all on one side of the ball as far as improvements go.

[SquishDaFish]

Without breaking TOS which Im close to doing.....

You Du.....Our Offense was not nearly as bad as you make it out to be last year. And IMO they are going to be better by being together through a whole year together last year and this offseason. They should be better barring injury which KILLED US LAST YEAR! But you seem to forget that.

[better days]

I would say the Patriots are already in a great spot, and they have added a lot of talent on defense. Bengals look like thye were improved. Redskins and Cowboys look imporved too. Of bad teams in the top 10, Tampa Bay looks like they have a lot of improvements.

Bills are most certainly up there, but all on one side of the ball as far as improvements go.

Two low first rnd draft picks & some mediocre FAs by the Pats* do not equate to the improvements the Bills made IMO. Of the teams you named only Tampa can come close to the Bills for improvements that will show up in the W-L record this year.

[PTI]

Without breaking TOS which Im close to doing.....

You Du.....Our Offense was not nearly as bad as you make it out to be last year. And IMO they are going to be better by being together through a whole year together last year and this offseason. They should be better barring injury which KILLED US LAST YEAR! But you seem to forget that.

The offense we had was very average. Average passing attack, 15th. Running a little above average at 13th, 14th total in yards overall. I never said it was bad, it was average. Bills scored 14th in points, but let's face some facts here, Bills were 2nd in defensive touchdowns, and in total scored 51 non offensive points, top 3 in that in the NFL. Bills were 4th worst team in the NFL in 3rd down conversions, and were in top 5 in how many times they went 3 and out on offense. Dreadfully inconsistent. Depth definitely hurt this team.

[PTI]

Two low first rnd draft picks & some mediocre FAs by the Pats* do not equate to the improvements the Bills made IMO. Of the teams you named only Tampa can come close to the Bills for improvements that will show up in the W-L record this year.

Pats have a legit chance to go 16-0 this season, they will be at least a touchdown favorite in 13 of the games they have this season.

[SquishDaFish]

The offense we had was very average. Average passing attack, 15th. Running a little above average at 13th, 14th total in yards overall. I never said it was bad, it was average. Bills scored 14th in points, but let's face some facts here, Bills were 2nd in defensive touchdowns, and in total scored 51 non offensive points, top 3 in that in the NFL. Bills were 4th worst team in the NFL in 3rd down conversions, and were in top 5 in how many times they went 3 and out on offense. Dreadfully inconsistent. Depth definitely hurt this team.

You do remember the injuries we had yes??? Starting Pro Bowl level RB our OLine had a ton of injuries. Not to mention the WRs that were injured. Not to mention Fitz being hurt with **** for QBs behind him. You seem to be blinded by your hate for Fitz

[justasportsfan]

You do remember the injuries we had yes??? Starting Pro Bowl level RB our OLine had a ton of injuries. Not to mention the WRs that were injured. Not to mention Fitz being hurt with **** for QBs behind him. You seem to be blinded by your hate for Fitz


Don't forget Ralph had a broken hip. :tip:

[stuckincincy]

I would say the Patriots are already in a great spot, and they have added a lot of talent on defense. Bengals look like thye were improved. Redskins and Cowboys look imporved too. Of bad teams in the top 10, Tampa Bay looks like they have a lot of improvements.

Bills are most certainly up there, but all on one side of the ball as far as improvements go.

Well, one hopes Glenn pans out as a starter somewhere along the line, or as strong insert player. Last season, the relatively early loss of Freddie hurt. Jury's out on Spiller, IMO.

I was surprised at the Graham pick - speed, but a good chuck near the LOS can negate that - I've no idea how well he deals with that. TE prospect Charles was there.

Seems that Fitz had bad ribs in the last half of last season - I wonder about the severity of that; bum ribs = bum qb play. If it was really bad, turn to the #2 qb. And of course, other player injuries factored into the dismal collapse.

I do think that the fast start was "one of those things.", and the opposition eventually digested that.

I really don't see an offense this season that causes opposing DCs to bite their nails at night.

Don't turn my comments into an anti-Fitz pogrom, please.


I have difficulty buying into the DL hype. K. Williams has yet to show he's recovered, M. Williams is coming off injury - and recently voiced where he wants to line up - and the depth behind them is open to discussion. The LB corps has questions.


CB Gilmore has potential, but for the life of me, I do not understand why they passed on the DT prospect Cox.

[PTI]

Duh on me. Can't sleep on Glenn. I hope he is a big contributor. I want the Bills go get 3rd and 1 and 3rd and 2 on the ground a bit more this season. Would have loved taking his teammate in Charles at TE.

[better days]

Pats have a legit chance to go 16-0 this season, they will be at least a touchdown favorite in 13 of the games they have this season.

Well, the Pats* have one of the easiest schedules in the NFL this year again despite playing in the SuperBowl. They will most likely win the division again, but they did not improve their team as much as the Bills did this off season.