Why is this team not a SB team?

[X-Era]

The thread title is meant to draw you in but also point out that that's the goal... Not the playoffs. The playoffs are a sub-goal. I think we've been so separated from great Bills football for so long that we've lowered our standards to thinking the goal is the playoffs... It isn't. I still want redemption for 4 Super Bowl losses. I want to finally win one or at least get there. That's the real goal.

So is this team worthy? Can we do it with this FO, Coaching staff, and squad?

If not, why?

I'll start it out by saying at best Fitz is Eli Manning or Trent Dilfer... That comment alone shows what I think the rest of the team needs to be to be able to make it to the SB or win one...

Position by position are we there? What are we lacking? How do we compare to other SB appearing or winning teams?

[mightysimi]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

I think you severely underrate Eli Manning. I think a couple of years in the same system to truly perfect the plays is what it will take. That and a major injury free year for once.

[Prov401]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

Eli played a major role in winning both superbowls for the Giants. It's safe to say without him, they probably wouldn't have won anything. Dilfer was just lucky to be on a team with one of the best defenses in the history of the NFL. The Fitz/Eli comparison is way off.

[Marvelous]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

I'll give Er a go,but I hate long post on this ******ed keypad on this awful iPhone---

[cgbm]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

fitz is not the answer....

he is a band aid on the laceration that we call and offense.

we need a neosporin manning, brees, rogers, etc..... (all won superbowls)

facts are facts.

refer you to my sig...

[Beebe's Kid]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

fitz is not the answer....

he is a band aid on the laceration that we call and offense.

we need a neosporin manning, brees, rogers, etc..... (all won superbowls)

facts are facts.

refer you to my sig...

Easy, Francis

[DrGraves]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

I honestly think it is the depth that is holding us back. While I don't think Fitz is anything more than very average, he is good enough to win games (see Pats week 3). Injuries are inevitable for every team. We don't have enough on the roster to overcome them...

[Marvelous]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

-QB -Fitz= check
-RB-Fred-X= absolutely check
-RB-2-- NO
-FB-irrelevant
-WR-NO
-TE-NO
-Tackles-almost but NO
-guards-YES!
-C- yes(wood) so YES!
-RE-maybe-I'll lean towards YES
-LE-YES
-DT/NT- YES!
-DT-YES!
-OLB-Sam-YES!
-MLB-NO
-OLB-will-YES
-CB-NO
-FS-NO
-SS-NO
-Special-YES!
-Coaching-YES

-------now depth---
QB-I dunno,dudes a ****** who spells better then me.
-RB-hmm-I'll say YES
WR-NO--all we have is Stevie Johnson and he is-NOT a Super Bowl caliber player IMO,atleast not yet,or not alone he isn't.
-WR-2-5-the worst core since before early 90's!!NO!!
-TE-depth-NO
-O-line depth-YES. Center depth??who cares.
-DE-depth-heck yea! Kelsey!
-DT-depth-I dunno-I'm leaning NO
-OLB-depth-rookies
-MLB-depth-NO-cause unknowns are starting lol
CB depth -YES
-FS depth-NO
-SS depth -YES

--I'm always a glass Half full kinda fan,but
Our WR core is awful and TE beat WR has maturity issues(not-debatable)!
-TE-yeah he caught a few early, but even my wife complained about his mediocre speed.
-o-line-yeah it's up & coming,but it was bad last year,it will be average at beat until they click. We're screwed if any injury.
D-line-I like it. Über ! Nuff said.
-LB's--I love our TCU white rookie. I was hoping for him a whole round earlier.
And last years LSU rookie will be awesome this year !
-Merriman-I lost faith. Hope for best!
-CB's--man on paper it looks good. drayton Florence was important. Now that only leaves McKelvin as the leader and the 1st 3weeks well have McGee. Future looks very bright. I hope it starts now!
FS-man wtf happened to mr.9 int's BYrd???
SS-I love last years rookie. Forget name. 5th rounder I think. Wht! Sounds stupid cause I said I like him and forgt his name. Sorry.
-K--man this house is a Lindell fan & weren't until we lost him. Classic lesson learned=you dunno what u have till its gone! Lol
-staff--Wanny is a beast 4-3 base coach! Woot

-we had a uber draft. But we failed to upgrade WR in free agency &/or draft. No pun to the WR we drafted. Not the kind of room u put faith in prematurely eh.
-TE-yeah right- nobody ignores the position better then us!!!


-Fitz is 100% awesome and his season proved it. I saw all the tipped passes for int's & I saw the mediocrity surrounding him.
-IMO we rebuilt a good team. Good enough to break our mediocrity IMO.
I just hope The Ralph lives to see it in the season after this one.

Thanks for reading my dragged-out post.

[OpIv37]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

Fitz is not a SB-caliber QB.

WR is a ? after Stevie.

No OT's.

CB's are inexperienced and LB is a ? as well.

Don't get me wrong. The DL should be spectacular and could cover some holes in the back 7, we have two top RB's and Stevie can play, so I expect this team to compete for a playoff spot. But, realistically, there are too many holes to be legit SB contenders. We are at least two off-seasons away from that, maybe more if we have to wait on a rookie QB.

[Meathead]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

last year the bills had playoff caliber starters and basement caliber backups

this year they have playoff caliber starters and some playoff caliber backups

so like a lot of teams they certainly could make the playoffs and once there anything can happen, including winning a title. but theyll need some breaks in both injuries and bounces to do it

[BADTHINGSMAN]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

Because the Patriots still have Brady and Belicheat.

[Slim]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

Fitz is not a SB-caliber QB.

WR is a ? after Stevie.

No OT's.

CB's are inexperienced and LB is a ? as well.

Don't get me wrong. The DL should be spectacular and could cover some holes in the back 7, we have two top RB's and Stevie can play, so I expect this team to compete for a playoff spot. But, realistically, there are too many holes to be legit SB contenders. We are at least two off-seasons away from that, maybe more if we have to wait on a rookie QB.

I think you can assume we have at least one OT. We may not have a good one of the left side, but between Pears, Hairston, and Glenn we have the right side locked down.

[Slim]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

Because the Patriots still have Brady and Belicheat.

Any day know that horseshoe is going to fall out of Brady's ass.

[BertSquirtgum]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

I've said this many times. Fitz's noodle arm will be the reason this team can't win a Super Bowl. I think they have a great chance at making the playoffs but when the team needs a quarterback to carry them, Fitznoodle is not the guy.

[Beebe]

Re: Why is this team not a SB team?

We will win the SUPERBOWL.