Shiancoe signs one year deal with the Pat's

[zone]

Like they need anymore TE's.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82ac8aa5/article/visanthe-shiancoe-signs-oneyear-new-england-patriots-contract-?module=HP11_headline_stack

[OpIv37]

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great- another TE for the Bills to not cover. I call it "The Ghost of Donte Whitner."

[mayotm]

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I see this working out about as well as Ocho Cinco and Haynesworth did for them.

[The King]

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They have like 12 TE's on the rosters.

[OpIv37]

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I see this working out about as well as Ocho Cinco and Haynesworth did for them.

That's ok- they only have at least 2 more that can kill us.

It makes me nervous when Bellicheck does something like stockpiling TE's. Knowing him, he'll find some way to pass from a 3 TE set on 3rd and 12 and it will work.

[zone]

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That's ok- they only have at least 2 more that can kill us.

It makes me nervous when Bellicheck does something like stockpiling TE's. Knowing him, he'll find some way to pass from a 3 TE set on 3rd and 12 and it will work.

Yea exactly, looks like he is going to pull his own "wildcat" and have a two TE backfield with three TE split wide. lol

[mayotm]

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That's ok- they only have at least 2 more that can kill us.

It makes me nervous when Bellicheck does something like stockpiling TE's. Knowing him, he'll find some way to pass from a 3 TE set on 3rd and 12 and it will work.

Exactly, they already have two very good TE's. That's why I'm not concerned with them signing another one that won't get on the field much. There is this popular misconception that every move the Pats make is brilliant. When in fact, they've missed on a lot of free agents and draft picks. The main reason the Pats have been good for so long is Brady. Period.

[OpIv37]

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Exactly, they already have two very good TE's. That's why I'm not concerned with them signing another one that won't get on the field much. There is this popular misconception that every move the Pats make is brilliant. When in fact, they've missed on a lot of free agents and draft picks. The main reason the Pats have been good for so long is Brady. Period.

I agree they've had their share of misses, but I disagree on Brady. The reason they've been so good for so long is Bellicheck. He finds ways to maximize almost every players' strengths and put them in positions to win. Hell, they won 11 games with Matt ****ing Cassell and only lost the division title on tiebreakers.

Take Brady away from Bellicheck, and he's probably be average-slightly above average, but certainly wouldn't have the success or the numbers that he's had with Bellicheck.

[mayotm]

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I agree they've had their share of misses, but I disagree on Brady. The reason they've been so good for so long is Bellicheck. He finds ways to maximize almost every players' strengths and put them in positions to win. Hell, they won 11 games with Matt ****ing Cassell and only lost the division title on tiebreakers.

Take Brady away from Bellicheck, and he's probably be average-slightly above average, but certainly wouldn't have the success or the numbers that he's had with Bellicheck.

Personally, I think that Cassel year was an anomaly, but obviously Bellicheck did a great job that season. Also, I certainly didn't mean to imply that Bellicheck isn't a great coach. However, I strongly disagree that Brady would only be average to slightly above average without Bellicheck. It's probably pointless to debate because we aren't likely ever going to see Brady without Bellicheck.

[OpIv37]

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Personally, I think that Cassel year was an anomaly, but obviously Bellicheck did a great job that season. Also, I certainly didn't mean to imply that Bellicheck isn't a great coach. However, I strongly disagree that Brady would only be average to slightly above average without Bellicheck. It's probably pointless to debate because we aren't likely ever going to see Brady without Bellicheck.

Very true. The Pats will likely never let Brady go, and Bellicheck will probably just retire at the same time Brady does.

[PTI]

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I agree they've had their share of misses, but I disagree on Brady. The reason they've been so good for so long is Bellicheck. He finds ways to maximize almost every players' strengths and put them in positions to win. Hell, they won 11 games with Matt ****ing Cassell and only lost the division title on tiebreakers.

Take Brady away from Bellicheck, and he's probably be average-slightly above average, but certainly wouldn't have the success or the numbers that he's had with Bellicheck.

Cassell is not horrible, only had a year with limited weapons, with 27 TDs, only 7 INTs, and a 93 QB rating, and the CHiefs won 10 games!!! If Cassell wasn't hurt I bet the CHiefs win that division last year. That division was up for grabs.

[justasportsfan]

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Meh. DB says we're sweeping them, we're sweeping them!!!!

[PromoTheRobot]

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That's ok- they only have at least 2 more that can kill us.

It makes me nervous when Bellicheck does something like stockpiling TE's. Knowing him, he'll find some way to pass from a 3 TE set on 3rd and 12 and it will work.

By the way, who plays WR? Do they even have any? Is the plan to throw under 5 yds per? I'm quivering.

PTR

[OpIv37]

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By the way, who plays WR? Do they even have any? Is the plan to throw under 5 yds per? I'm quivering.

PTR

Um, first of all, 5 yards per still equals 15 yards per 3 downs- ie, more than 10 and a 1st down.

Second, have you watched what TE's have done to the Bills over the last 5 or 6 years, particularly the Pats' TE's? Just because a pass goes to a TE doesn't mean it's only 5 yards, particularly with the more athletic TE's that many teams have nowadays. This isn't the 1970's or 80's anymore: TE's are more than just 250 lb offensive linemen who occasionally catch a pass to fool the D. They're basically giant WR's who are occasionally asked to block.

[better days]

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Um, first of all, 5 yards per still equals 15 yards per 3 downs- ie, more than 10 and a 1st down.

Second, have you watched what TE's have done to the Bills over the last 5 or 6 years, particularly the Pats' TE's? Just because a pass goes to a TE doesn't mean it's only 5 yards, particularly with the more athletic TE's that many teams have nowadays. This isn't the 1970's or 80's anymore: TE's are more than just 250 lb offensive linemen who occasionally catch a pass to fool the D. They're basically giant WR's who are occasionally asked to block.

The point is there is only one football. For every pass thrown to Shiancoe or another mediocre TE the Pats* just signed, that is one less pass for Gronk, Hernandez, Welker to catch & make a big play.