First year on the D-job for Dave (the stash) Wannstedt might be his last here

[Skooby]

It's tough to get handed a new crew & train them to all be on the same page in the first year is going to be tough. DW was given the keys to a Ferrari without the training to drive it, he's actually blown deals like this before as well. You don't spend the most ever for a defensive superstar when you have nothing else really set in stone, it's a go for broke scenario that's pretty risky.

I'm not trying to be totally negative but if the defense fails & the team crashes, heads are going to roll. The expectations are really too high for a new D-coach & a major change in your defensive system, Dave W. is in way over his head.

[Skooby]

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Dave W & Dick Jauron also interviewed for the DC position in Cleveland. If the Browns passed on him, that tells you something.

[kingJofNYC]

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Was Wade Phillips in way over his head last year? Gary Kubiak was on the hot seat, they were switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4, new personnel all over the field, none of them had really played in a 3-4 outside of McClain.

Stache is in a similar spot, it may end in disaster, but at the end of the day the players/talent will determine whether or not he's successful. Not much he can do besides coach. I don't think they're going to blow it up if the ship sinks, Ralph doesn't have the stomach for it. You'll see Nix retire in the next year or so, Whaley will step in and it's his show from that point.

[TigerJ]

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If I worried about everything that could go wrong in my life, I'd probably feel like committing suicide. Fortunately, I don't.

[YardRat]

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Was Wade Phillips in way over his head last year? Gary Kubiak was on the hot seat, they were switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4, new personnel all over the field, none of them had really played in a 3-4 outside of McClain.

Stache is in a similar spot, it may end in disaster, but at the end of the day the players/talent will determine whether or not he's successful. Not much he can do besides coach. I don't think they're going to blow it up if the ship sinks, Ralph doesn't have the stomach for it. You'll see Nix retire in the next year or so, Whaley will step in and it's his show from that point.

Wade Phillips is one of the best, and proven, 34 defensive minds in the game. If we were able to snag someone even remotely close to his level instead of hiring an asshat like Edwards we'd still be playing a 34 with a better defensive performance the last two seasons and Wannstadt would still be filling out applications.

[BillsOverDolphins]

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If I worried about everything that could go wrong in my life, I'd probably feel like committing suicide. Fortunately, I don't.

True...you'd have been dead a decade ago if you fretted over Bills problems

[kingJofNYC]

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Wade Phillips is one of the best, and proven, 34 defensive minds in the game. If we were able to snag someone even remotely close to his level instead of hiring an asshat like Edwards we'd still be playing a 34 with a better defensive performance the last two seasons and Wannstadt would still be filling out applications.

And yet Wade managed **** all with his defensive talent in Dallas.

Coaching matters, it really does, but never discount talent/personnel. JPP/Osi/Tuck make Fewell look like a genius when they're firing off the ball. When they were injured/hurt Giants D was nothing to write home about, they still finished near the bottom but I'll chalk that up to injuries in the secondary and Osi/Tuck being out for a stretch.

[BillsOverDolphins]

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And yet Wade managed **** all with his defensive talent in Dallas.

Coaching matters, it really does, but never discount talent/personnel. JPP/Osi/Tuck make Fewell look like a genius when they're firing off the ball. When they were injured/hurt Giants D was nothing to write home about, they still finished near the bottom but I'll chalk that up to injuries in the secondary and Osi/Tuck being out for a stretch.

Agree 100%. Lemme coach that D-line ffs. When healthy, they are one of the best in NFL history. No doubt about it.

[YardRat]

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And yet Wade managed **** all with his defensive talent in Dallas.

Coaching matters, it really does, but never discount talent/personnel. JPP/Osi/Tuck make Fewell look like a genius when they're firing off the ball. When they were injured/hurt Giants D was nothing to write home about, they still finished near the bottom but I'll chalk that up to injuries in the secondary and Osi/Tuck being out for a stretch.

Granted, but Wade didn't exactly have an entire roster of All-Pros and household names in Houston to make a single-season switch, and he lost his (supposed) best player a third into the season.

[Beebe]

Re: First year on the D-job for Dave (the stash) Wannstedt might be his last here

Dave W & Dick Jauron also interviewed for the DC position in Cleveland. If the Browns passed on him, that tells you something.

Didn't he passed on them, because they wanted him after he got fired form PITT.

[Oaf]

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[BillsOverDolphins]

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Give me the good players over the good coaches any day of the week. Players win games.

[Skooby]

Re: First year on the D-job for Dave (the stash) Wannstedt might be his last here

Give me the good players over the good coaches any day of the week. Players win games.

Well coached good players win championships.

[Meathead]

Re: First year on the D-job for Dave (the stash) Wannstedt might be his last here

have you been drinking again mitch?

pornstachio is a great dcoord. we are lucky to have him. aside from another string of injuries the d could not possibly blow up bad enough to get him fired. thats just crazy talk. this is also crazy talk: blaa bloo blee blaabababa mememe bobooo

[EricStratton]

Re: First year on the D-job for Dave (the stash) Wannstedt might be his last here

Why are we worrying about firing a DC in August?