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Allen Wilson, of the Buffalo News, reports for the Sporting News that Buffalo Bills rookie C Jon Dorenbos is expected to make the team as a long snapper in 2003.
He's good, and it's an important position, but it always seems a shame to give up a roster spot to a one skill specialist.
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
He made a lot of ST's tackles in college, which is rare for a LS'ing specialist. Maybe he'll do the same in the pros and be an extra ST's guy, which increases his worth?
T'aint nothing worse than a botched snap when you're trying to punt. You're already in bad field position. Generally sets up a score for the other team.
No doubt LS is a key ST position - bad snaps can cost you games. It will be nice if he's athletic enough to contribute in other areas, however, so he's not completely one dimensional.
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
Originally posted by Jan Reimers He's good, and it's an important position, but it always seems a shame to give up a roster spot to a one skill specialist.
I think i heard Ing say that Dorenbos was the best LS in this draft, and alot of teams were going after him as a UFA. as for giving up a roster spot, ask the Giants how important a LS is.
Originally posted by Jan Reimers He's good, and it's an important position, but it always seems a shame to give up a roster spot to a one skill specialist.
Ethan Albright was one of the underrated players on Bills roster. Never once can I recall a bad snap. Mr automatic he was. Christie's percentage went down in training camp when he left to Redskins. Donahoe tried to get him to come back but he said "No thanks".
Having a dedicated LS may make the difference in winning a game or two.
What I don't understand is, since teams have spent draft picks on LS'ers, why did Dorenbos go undrafted? I recall a LS'er being drafted in the 5th round last year.
Doc, that's all part of the game within' the game. I still think drafting Jankowski as high as they did was a dumb move by the Raiders. There are always going to be excitable GM's making hasty decisions based upon their recent history. Doughboy was a draft-quality kicker, however, he'd most likely have been there in later rounds.
TD is fairly good at this game; and it appears that he might be starting to learn his lesson in regards to the importance of the kicking game. I'm still hoping he doesn't have to eat crow over letting Hollis get away so easily.
Good kicking games can make a world of difference. It's a huge chunk of the "Special Teams is under-rated" debate.
When I spoke with him, he said that he thought the Texans were going to draft him in the 5th, but you all know how that goes. Avg. time in the NFL from snapper to punter/kicker is around 71 seconds. He can do it in around 68. Plus he's cute and a great card magician.
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Dorenbos will never be able to bulk up to the point that he could be a regular center. At last check I think he was 250 lbs. on a 6 foot frame. I don't think he even took many snaps at LB by the time he was a senior. Judging from his night job, maybe the Bills ought to put in some trick plays, seriously. Perhaps he could be good a drawing opposing teams offsides without drawing a flag himself.
I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.
I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.
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